Black Ops is ok, but RDR isn't?!
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Because the kid probably exclusively plays multiplayer so he can play with his friends online. So its just a really gritty version of paintball. It doesn't make her right, but thats what I would put my money on what her reasoning is.
Are you kidding me? All you do in the CoD series is blow people up with missiles, grenades, and nuclear warheads, put bullets between people's eyes and through their chests, and torture captives for information. I'm not even touching on the online play aspect.
In RDR, you might accidentally shoot a horse. A horse. What kind of monster would even put himself in a situation to do that? Sure, you snap multiple dogs' necks in MW1, but you don't touch any horses.
But no, seriously, parents just need some education as to what the big fat "M" on the box means and how to read the back of the case to see anything and everything the ESRB says is objectionable. I honestly think that each year, game stores should just have their employees explain the rating of each game they sell to people over 40 in November and December (during the Christmas rush). Do that for a couple of years, and maybe people will stop being so quick to say that games need to be censored.
In RDR, you might accidentally shoot a horse. A horse. What kind of monster would even put himself in a situation to do that? Sure, you snap multiple dogs' necks in MW1, but you don't touch any horses.
But no, seriously, parents just need some education as to what the big fat "M" on the box means and how to read the back of the case to see anything and everything the ESRB says is objectionable. I honestly think that each year, game stores should just have their employees explain the rating of each game they sell to people over 40 in November and December (during the Christmas rush). Do that for a couple of years, and maybe people will stop being so quick to say that games need to be censored.
The most logical answer to this is that there was probably some attenuating circumstance, such as the kid got Black Ops as a reward for something like a good report card or a birthday present or something.
Of course, there's always the possibility that the kid's mum was grossly misinformed, in which case, rant on.
Of course, there's always the possibility that the kid's mum was grossly misinformed, in which case, rant on.
The best I can think of is that in RDR you can go around murdering random, innocent and defenseless civillians for the lolz. Blops only has one mission I recall that the player can do that and if you kill even one civillian you instantly fail. There's also no nudity or drug use in blops. That's my best guess.
Y'know, skinning animals in RDR was kinda icky at first, but I've never gotten over that part in Black Ops where you straight-up core out the back of a guy's head like an apple. Anyway, yeah, people are dumb.
I guess if I was a parent it would have come down to "In RDR you can kill innocent people, in Black Ops you don't" and "In Black Ops you can fly helicopters and shoot bad guys, in RDR you can tie prostitutes to train tracks." One of those seems a lot worse then the other, but it doesn't really make a difference anyway.
Well, to be fair, in BO you fight filthy communists exclusively armed combatants, whereas RDR is a game in which you can hogtie and murder a pile of hookers, and then place them on a train track and wait for it to splatter them into pieces.
RDR also has nudity. So I think that's an okay call.
RDR also has nudity. So I think that's an okay call.
That woman is clearly an idiot. At least RDR had a decent story, unlike Black Ops' plot twist that I figured out as soon as it was set up (Spoiler: Your character is a crazy idiot and if you didn't figure out that you had an imaginary friend almost immediately then you're not very bright).
I've played both games to completion, and it was the right call to make, even if the mother didn't know why she was making it. Here are a few of the objectionable things featured in each game that should put up red flags for a parent of a small child:
Red Dead: Gore/shooting, fairly tame torture, cursing, prostitution & mistreatment of women, race issues, a graphic (by video game standards) and unnecessary sex scene, theft, alcoholism, necrophilia and arguably terrorism (depending on how you see the actions you take in Mexico), killing & skinning animals.
Black Ops: Gore/shooting, fairly tame torture, cursing.
Black Ops really is a much more tame game than Red Dead. Red Dead just arguably has more artistic value, and I don't think an 11 year old would particularly care about or even understand that.
Red Dead: Gore/shooting, fairly tame torture, cursing, prostitution & mistreatment of women, race issues, a graphic (by video game standards) and unnecessary sex scene, theft, alcoholism, necrophilia and arguably terrorism (depending on how you see the actions you take in Mexico), killing & skinning animals.
Black Ops: Gore/shooting, fairly tame torture, cursing.
Black Ops really is a much more tame game than Red Dead. Red Dead just arguably has more artistic value, and I don't think an 11 year old would particularly care about or even understand that.
"This is different"
Translation: The coyboy game seems too sexual, the war game is just shooting.
She's just sounds like an average mom to me. Dose she research everything she buys her kid? Doubt it, did your parents? Did your parents ever let watch a R-rated movie when you where that age or younger? Your parents ever let you play any games rated-M? Did you waited until you were 18 to play Resident Evil?
Parents aren't robot that are 100% consistent. Calling her an idiot or dumb is just insanely immature and judgmental to me.
Translation: The coyboy game seems too sexual, the war game is just shooting.
She's just sounds like an average mom to me. Dose she research everything she buys her kid? Doubt it, did your parents? Did your parents ever let watch a R-rated movie when you where that age or younger? Your parents ever let you play any games rated-M? Did you waited until you were 18 to play Resident Evil?
Parents aren't robot that are 100% consistent. Calling her an idiot or dumb is just insanely immature and judgmental to me.
strangeotron said:
Unlike alcohol, DVDs and other assorted age restricted content games cannot be refused sale on suspicion of supplying to a minor.
In laymen's terms, if you've got an adult with you, even if they know the game's for a younger person, they can't refuse sale on legal grounds. They still reserve the right to do so anyway, but if the employee stopped GAME plc from making another £40 do you think she'd stay long in her job?
Also, I remember when I was with my mum buying a 16+ game when I was 14 (and looked younger), and the guy at the counter must have known it was for me. But he couldn't refuse sale, he just made sure to clarify to my mum about the age ratings system and she was fine with it. However, this was when there was practically no-one in store; if you're in a queue chances are it was relatively busy and they wouldn't have time to do it to everyone, hell, they probably can't be bothered to do it to everyone especially seeing as they're just gonna buy it for their kid anyway.