Black Ops is ok, but RDR isn't?!

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Omikron009

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Red Dead Redemption is too mature for an 11 year old. The mindless killing of Black Ops is clean, harmless fun that the whole family can enjoy!
 

Reynaerdinjo

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What the hell? Who are you people to judge what is appropriate for this particular child and what isn't? It's the responsibility of the parent. For example, I played the most violent games you can imagine when I was a child (aged 12). I played Doom, Postal, Carmageddon and so on, and I watched the most violent movies (Terminator 2, Robocop). I like to think I turned out fine. I see no problem with parents who let their children play mature games if they estimate they can handle it.
 

Lukeje

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Reynaerdinjo said:
What the hell? Who are you people to judge what is appropriate for this particular child and what isn't? It's the responsibility of the parent. For example, I played the most violent games you can imagine when I was a child (Doom, Postal, Carmageddon, and so on), watched the most violent movies (Terminator 2, Robocop) and I like to think I turned out fine. I see no problem with parents who let their children play mature games if they estimate they can handle it.
The question is why she arbitrarily decided that one game was worse than the other.
 

Nikolaz72

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ash-brewster said:
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Because it's a Rockstar game. Thank's to Jack Thompson people tend to see Rockstar as more Adult games than others.
What ever happened to that nutjub anyway?
Didnt he die off after the last case.. Like after the MoH taliban thingy. He will probably make a long awaited return in a couple of years. OR show up tomorrow.
 

Royta

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RDR has nudity. You know that's way worse then people having their skull smashed in.
Make war, not love.
 

Reynaerdinjo

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Lukeje said:
The question is why she arbitrarily decided that one game was worse than the other.
I got that but I was responding to the people who said that children should never be allowed to play mature games. Plus, it isn't certain she decided arbitrarily, the reason just wasn't given in the OP.
 

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Jordi said:
Really? The store clerk can get in trouble for selling a game to an adult who happens to have a kid with them? Although it seems kind of obvious that the kid is the one who's going to be playing it, how can anyone prove that?
Yes. In the UK, a sales assistant who sells a video game or DVD to someone of the incorrect age can face immediate dismissal or severe disciplinary action, up to six months in prison, a £5,000 fine (note: the company does not pay the fine. The individual does.) and a criminal record. If it's a part of a Trading Standard's sting (I.E., a child is sent in all dolled up as an adult by TS to see if we will serve them), said sales assistant is arrested on-sight and lead away in handcuffs. It happened in one of our shops, and I pretty much think it's sickening.

As for the situation when an adult is stood with the child, it's difficult - especially if you have ID'd the kid and they've gone crying to mummy, who can (and will) get *very* upset. Basically you are not allowed to accept cash from or hand the item in question to said child; you must purely deal with the adult stood with them.
 

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moose_man said:
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maybe she is an animal rights protestor, she wouldnt be happy with the killing of animals in RDR
And yet, PETA is A-Okay with PEOPLE getting the shit shot out of them.
they bear attacked me first man, it was self defense

i was just strolling through the forest picking flowers when yogi pops out and KOs me
 

Marowit

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That's too funny!

'A well crafted experience that puts you in morally ambiguous situations isn't O.K. with me. However, killing waves of commies and annoying people online with your mic is A.O.K. with me!'

We're, my fellow gamers, are doomed.

No wonder developers develop dreck so regularly.
 

shootthebandit

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ChaoticLegion said:
shootthebandit said:
my mum bought me loads of 18 games when i was younger, i remember being very young and playing GTA 3.
Exactly the same here. I wish people would quit bunching everyone under one general category.

Age ratings are a GUIDELINE. My parents allowed me to play games that were rated for older individuals as I was mature as a child and they trusted me with such games. Additionaly to this I can safely say that the violence nor lack of morals in these games have affected me in a negative way.

It is, at the end of the day, completely up to the parents as to what games they allow their children to play. Just because some parents are idiots who can't handle making such decisions, it does not mean that everyone else is incapable of making such a decision, or that if they do reach that conclusion they are wrong for doing so. Each circumstance must be looked at individualy.
age ratings arent a guideline, i worked in a shop (in the UK) and its a criminal offense to sell a game to someone below the age rating. if a parent is with them you have to sell it to the parent (which is stupid because they are going to give it to the kid anyway)

beside playing GTA at a young age is benificial. as your gaming muscles arent fully developed you soon realise that breaking the will get you arrested or dead. hell even nowadays i still struggle with a full on 6 star wanted level (except GTA IV, thats just too easy to go down the subway)
 

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Marowit said:
That's too funny!

'A well crafted experience that puts you in morally ambiguous situations isn't O.K. with me. However, killing waves of commies and annoying people online with your mic is A.O.K. with me!'

We're, my fellow gamers, are doomed.

No wonder developers develop dreck so regularly.
well said my freind

i reward you with a tray of virtual cookies
 

Trogdor1138

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On the bright side, at least she didn't buy the kid RDR...

Still, buying him Black Ops is obviously ridiculous, but maybe the whole war aspect somehow makes it more patriotic to parents or something, I don't know.
 

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i'm as baffled as you are.

i Haven't played Black OPS, but maybe it doesn't include a scene where the main character walks in on a rebel leader clearly having sex with a woman (off-screen), and she knew it (unlikely). Then again, in Black OPS the main character is being tortured and has flashbacks that the player then plays out.
 

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Ilikemilkshake said:
She likely realised the logical falacy of not buying RDR even after buying Blops, and so decided to use the ol' 'im the parent and i get to make no sense' card, and so just said, "yeah but thats different"
Thats kinda what I thought.
 

Marowit

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shootthebandit said:
Marowit said:
That's too funny!

'A well crafted experience that puts you in morally ambiguous situations isn't O.K. with me. However, killing waves of commies and annoying people online with your mic is A.O.K. with me!'

We're, my fellow gamers, are doomed.

No wonder developers develop dreck so regularly.
well said my freind

i reward you with a tray of virtual cookies
nom nom nom nom

:3
 

xKasumiGotox

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I don't see why people complain about us teenagers playing these games. I've been told many-a-time that I shouldn't play games like RDR and CoD because they'll influence me to copy the protagonists, as if I'm some kind of Psycho who thinks I should copy people in game. I've been playing violent games for at least 6 years now and I've never even had the slightest inkling to copy them. Any other teens feel put down?