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[TerribleAssassin]

OT: As long as the make the M16 realistic and give it a fire selector and get rid of Tactical Nukes and Commando, I'm all in.

I mean, I know not all guns have a fire selector, but most rifles do. The FAMAS has one, the F2000 has one, the FN FAL has one. Hell, "FAL" stands for Fusil Automatique Léger, or Light Automatic Rifle. Single-fire, eh, Infinity Ward?

Infact, that would make the game more intresting, if you had a fire mode like in the original Call of Duty, it would shut people up about how guns only have one mode of fire.

So yeah:

Fire Selectors
Better respawn system
Balanced killsteaks
and the inabilaty to run or walk fast with a rifle that fire 50. BMG rounds.

And balanced unlocks.

 

[MetalDooley]

The amount of killstreaks that can be used at the same time should be limited like CoD4 where only 1 attack chopper could be in the air

 

[sooperman]

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas seities? That has fire selection and a load of of different weapons with different benifits.

O rly? That is interesting, actually. Kind of makes me wish I played Tom Clancy games. Maybe I'll have to start?

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Hey Miracle, can I add something to your wishlist?

I know I'm not going to get it, but I'd like to see a game where there was a fire selector. You know, toggle from 3-round burst to full-auto. Actually, including this would save the devs a lot of time and effort(which is money, mkay) because they could cut entire guns out of the game.

For example, if every gun in MW2 could have fired in either at the operator's choosing, the M16 and the FAMAS wouldn't have needed to be included. You'd only need like, five guns assuming there were plenty of attachments for customization.

I've been rallying for this option for a while now, but to no avail. Someday, though.

I imagine the reason they don't include it is because of the weapon balance issue.

For example, the FAMAS shoots much faster than the other Assault rifles, but because it is burst fire, it's all-round damage-per-second is the same.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

The amount of killstreaks that can be used at the same time should be limited like CoD4 where only 1 attack chopper could be in the air

Agreed. I'd love if it was good old 3-5-7 too.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Basically Copy and paste the OPs wishlist for a start as I more or less agree completely with these changes,
Remove knifing from CoD completely,
Have Bash be a 1 hit kill from a rifle with no lunge(Trust me this takes skill if you played CoD2 you would know what a pistol bash kill like to obtain with 2 hits in close quarters).
Maybe a Bayonette attachment to had a slight lunge bash but have it take up a perk slot,
Balance the game better through beta testing,
Drop Kill Streaks altogether more so the UAV type thing I like the Air Strike/Arty Strike,
More varied maps some big and some small but none like Shipment or Kill House that are just made to be noobish,
Have weapon weight be more important,
BIG OF ALL AND THIS NEEDS BOLD AND CAPS. ADD DEDICATED SERVERS AND MOD SUPPORT BACK INTO THE PC VERSION ALONG WITH ALL OTHER CUT FEATURES LIKE LEAN. UNTIL THIS HAPPENS I WILL NOT TOUCH ANOTHER NEW COD GAME UNLESS I WAS PAYED A RIDICULOUSLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY

 

[Lowbreed]

To be honest I still think the apparent diving is just a guy getting blown away by a nade but I'm sure once it comes out I'll be proven wrong.
Also, nubtubes should vanish, that is all. (The x-bow takes some aim by comparison)

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

BIG OF ALL AND THIS NEEDS BOLD AND CAPS. ADD DEDICATED SERVERS AND MOD SUPPORT BACK INTO THE PC VERSION ALONG WITH ALL OTHER CUT FEATURES LIKE LEAN. UNTIL THIS HAPPENS I WILL NOT TOUCH ANOTHER NEW COD GAME UNLESS I WAS PAYED A RIDICULOUSLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY

already been confirmed.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/08/call-of-duty-blacks-ops-dedicated-servers-dev-console-mods.ars

Ok well on that it says nothing about Lean but I suppose I could live without Lean as it seems to have the main things. Hopefully they have added Lean back in as well. My main concerns are the Deds, Mods and setting tweaking.

 

[Psyco Slim]

Basically Copy and paste the OPs wishlist for a start as I more or less agree completely with these changes,
Remove knifing from CoD completely,
Have Bash be a 1 hit kill from a rifle with no lunge(Trust me this takes skill if you played CoD2 you would know what a pistol bash kill like to obtain with 2 hits in close quarters).
Maybe a Bayonette attachment to had a slight lunge bash but have it take up a perk slot,
Balance the game better through beta testing,
Drop Kill Streaks altogether more so the UAV type thing I like the Air Strike/Arty Strike,
More varied maps some big and some small but none like Shipment or Kill House that are just made to be noobish,
Have weapon weight be more important,
BIG OF ALL AND THIS NEEDS BOLD AND CAPS. ADD DEDICATED SERVERS AND MOD SUPPORT BACK INTO THE PC VERSION ALONG WITH ALL OTHER CUT FEATURES LIKE LEAN. UNTIL THIS HAPPENS I WILL NOT TOUCH ANOTHER NEW COD GAME UNLESS I WAS PAYED A RIDICULOUSLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY

They already announced they were going to have dedicated servers and mod support.

 

[Flac00]

The gun butt idea is silly, because we all know it would be worthless. Commando makes the knife overpowered, not OHK. Well, I suppose the sheer speed and auto-aim unbalance it as well...

Melee should be worthless against guns.

The one hit knife kill is retarded, that should only apply if it is aimed at the face or chest.

Really that should be with everything. How about: Only shooting the chest and head will kill the person. But you can cripple/take off people's limbs if you shoot them enough. That way shooting someone does something but it doesn't make leg knifing possible. That and make the knife a bit longer to pull out. Or just make the knife animation automatically go for the head and neck that way a one hit kill makes sense.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Basically Copy and paste the OPs wishlist for a start as I more or less agree completely with these changes,
Remove knifing from CoD completely,
Have Bash be a 1 hit kill from a rifle with no lunge(Trust me this takes skill if you played CoD2 you would know what a pistol bash kill like to obtain with 2 hits in close quarters).
Maybe a Bayonette attachment to had a slight lunge bash but have it take up a perk slot,
Balance the game better through beta testing,
Drop Kill Streaks altogether more so the UAV type thing I like the Air Strike/Arty Strike,
More varied maps some big and some small but none like Shipment or Kill House that are just made to be noobish,
Have weapon weight be more important,
BIG OF ALL AND THIS NEEDS BOLD AND CAPS. ADD DEDICATED SERVERS AND MOD SUPPORT BACK INTO THE PC VERSION ALONG WITH ALL OTHER CUT FEATURES LIKE LEAN. UNTIL THIS HAPPENS I WILL NOT TOUCH ANOTHER NEW COD GAME UNLESS I WAS PAYED A RIDICULOUSLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY

They already announced they were going to have dedicated servers and mod support.

Yes thanks for letting me know another user already said this but the mod support is not 100% confirmed and will certainly not be at launch. They did not however, say anything about Lean. Although I doubt that they won't include mod support with that message and I am sure Lean will be thrown back in too.

The gun butt idea is silly, because we all know it would be worthless. Commando makes the knife overpowered, not OHK. Well, I suppose the sheer speed and auto-aim unbalance it as well...

Melee should be worthless against guns.

The one hit knife kill is retarded, that should only apply if it is aimed at the face or chest.

Really that should be with everything. How about: Only shooting the chest and head will kill the person. But you can cripple/take off people's limbs if you shoot them enough. That way shooting someone does something but it doesn't make leg knifing possible. That and make the knife a bit longer to pull out. Or just make the knife animation automatically go for the head and neck that way a one hit kill makes sense.

CoD has not had even a semblance of Realism since UO. It is not going to start having any now. The rifle butt system in CoD 2 was quite Balanced in a fight where it was CQ it was nigh on impossible to get the bash in unless said person was reloading and it was a 1 hit kill unless with a pistol which I think is fair. Although if you can head bash someone with a pistol it is a 1 hit kill.

 

[sooperman]

I imagine the reason they don't include it is because of the weapon balance issue.

For example, the FAMAS shoots much faster than the other Assault rifles, but because it is burst fire, it's all-round damage-per-second is the same.

There is a 100-round per minute difference between the FAMAS and the F2000. That would just be a nightmare to balance. -_-

I see what you're saying, though. Maybe Trey will be better at balance than IW was. We can only hope.

 

[Korten12]

Customisable appearance for avatars and weapons

Wait by this does it mean like, you can change your character like Lost Planet 2, where you pick the body, legs, head, and other?

If it does, I might just buy it for that.

 

[SantoUno]

They better make most or at least half of the maps close encounter maps as well as bring back some of the good ol' SMG's like the MP5.

 

[flipsalty]

A good game where treyarch comes up with it's own ideas rather than just cutting and pasting infinity ward's.

 

[demoman_chaos]

For example, the FAMAS shoots much faster than the other Assault rifles, but because it is burst fire, it's all-round damage-per-second is the same.

Not quite, a burst from the FAMAS will always kill your enemy no matter where you hit them. CoD MW2 has a 3-shot rule, 3 hits anywhere adn you are toast (excluding headshots). FAMAS plus a red-dot sight to add auto-aim and you can instantly kill people just by tapping aim, then tapping fire.