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Zannah said:
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If they spent a bit longer on the balancing then they can figure it out. Interesting features can make or break a game and the time spent removing pointless guns can be used balancing the guns. It's just a matter of testing the guns, adjusting them then testing them again.
How could you do that? Without the rate of fire (and subsequently the recoil, since it's linked to that), the only variable they can change is the weapon damage, so unless weapons would suddenly deal more damage in burst or single fire, I don't see how this could work.
i disagree, i think a fire rate selector would have no difference. you can just tap the fire button once on a full auto, or even hold it for a sec for a 3 round burst. its not difficult to do but it would be abit more convient if you could change it on the fly
 

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shootthebandit said:
Zannah said:
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
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You know, I can think of a really easy way to balance the guns. Base their damage on the cartridges the guns are actually chambered in, and make sure that burst fire is roughly the same as fully-auto. The bigger guns would fire slower, and the high recoil would throw your aim off. Sounds fair to me.
 

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ianrocks6495 said:
Because while it may be realistic, powerful explosives are awful for gameplay balance. People just end up spamming them like in COD4 and MW2.

Also, more underpowered but quirky perks like in COD5 (Shades, Reconnaissance, Gas Mask, Flak Jacket, Toss Back, Fireproof). I had Shades on some of my classes just so my guy had the cool sunglasses. The Flare resistance was worthless. But I mean they might as well put them in. As long as they aren't overpowered, it wouldn't hurt. I was disappointed at how few perks MW2 had.
Explosive damage should be enough to kill on contact. It makes sense. If a dev is smart, though, they'll balance it against, say, perks or equipment. Trey's last game seemed more about the innovation, though, so a few more of these perks would makes sense.

And it would be easy to balance, too, like only giving people one grenade or including Flak Jacket and Toss Back. They have to sacrifice a slot for the noobtube, you have sacrifice as well.
 

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My biggest wish of all:

- A casual, Halo style playlist where your stats and K:D are not recorded.
if this comes through, i will give you about a million apples. like cookies but healthier
Yum! I eat an apple a day.

Anyone know what time the reveal is due?
 

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Anyone know what time the reveal is due?
Six AM Pacific time? That's 2 AM GMT... Gah I hate time conversions.

Where did you get this time confirmed at?
 

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sooperman said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Anyone know what time the reveal is due?
Six AM Pacific time? That's 2 AM GMT... Gah I hate time conversions.

Where did you get this time confirmed at?
Here ya go

http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/09/01/call-of-duty-black-ops-multiplayer-reveal-start-time-and-twitter-updates/

And here:

http://www.facebook.com/codblackops?v=app_146205935399002
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Bah so it won't actually be available to us. That's just great. But it looks like a lot of people will be streaming live, so we should be kept updated. And the event is actually tonight, so we have a bit more waiting to do.
 

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sooperman said:
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Bah so it won't actually be available to us. That's just great. But it looks like a lot of people will be streaming live, so we should be kept updated. And the event is actually tonight, so we have a bit more waiting to do.
Looks like I was wrong, the correct times are on the Facebook... if I'm not mistaken that means it's in 2 hours???
 

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Could be a Beta guys... looking very likely...

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/call-of-duty-black-ops/news/call-of-duty-black-ops-getting-a-360-only-multiplayer-beta-today/a-20100901122553875043/g-20100430155437473001

Fingers crossed
 

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shootthebandit said:
MiracleOfSound said:
sooperman said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Anyone know what time the reveal is due?
Six AM Pacific time? That's 2 AM GMT... Gah I hate time conversions.

Where did you get this time confirmed at?
this seems wrong to me, it cant be 2am GMT, because GMT is ahead of pacific (i think?)
Yeah, I can't seem to find a definite time anywhere on the web, everyone is saying different things!
 

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sooperman said:
shootthebandit said:
Zannah said:
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
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You know, I can think of a really easy way to balance the guns. Base their damage on the cartridges the guns are actually chambered in, and make sure that burst fire is roughly the same as fully-auto. The bigger guns would fire slower, and the high recoil would throw your aim off. Sounds fair to me.
Wow man, that's pretty much what I want for every game ever. You're the first person in a while who I've seen suggest that. Do you play Red Orchestra by any chance?
 

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360-only beta? What madness is this? Not even PC?

I guess I can see why they would aim a MW2 successor at the Halo crowd, but still.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
What they actually confirmed combined with your wish list (if it came true, at least some of them) would completely get me back in CoD again.
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The gun butt idea is silly, because we all know it would be worthless.
I beg to differ, Halo does exactly that and it's very useful in that game. Next to Counterstrike's melee (the good ol' knife as an actual weapon instead of a button) it's my favourite kind of melee.
 

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sooperman said:
360-only beta? What madness is this? Not even PC?

I guess I can see why they would aim a MW2 successor at the Halo crowd, but still.
It's all speculation at this point but apparently it was linked to the official COD site... If this is true I will jizz my pants.
 

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Scolar Visari said:
Wow man, that's pretty much what I want for every game ever. You're the first person in a while who I've seen suggest that. Do you play Red Orchestra by any chance?
Can't say I do, sorry. It's a WWII shooter, right?
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
It's all speculation at this point but apparently it was linked to the official COD site... If this is true I will jizz my pants.
But the PC and PS3 players won't. 360 Only? Come oooon...
 

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Cowabungaa said:
MiracleOfSound said:
What they actually confirmed combined with your wish list (if it came true, at least some of them) would completely get me back in CoD again.
Ironic Pirate said:
The gun butt idea is silly, because we all know it would be worthless.
I beg to differ, Halo does exactly that and it's very useful in that game. Next to Counterstrike's melee (the good ol' knife as an actual weapon instead of a button) it's my favourite kind of melee.
That's because in Halo, people take at least two dozen bullets to kill, which makes melee feasible. In COD it takes five, with the very weakest gun, and that's if you miss twice. People will just shoot each at point blank rather than stab.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
That's because in Halo, people take at least two dozen bullets to kill, which makes melee feasible. In COD it takes five, with the very weakest gun, and that's if you miss twice. People will just shoot each at point blank rather than stab.
Fair point, but then again I wouldn't mind that so much. Melee is overpowered in MW2. In a game like CoD it should be used for surprise assassinations and last-ditch attempts only, if you ask me. The gun butt idea is perfect for that.

Sadly, by the looks of it, knifing will only get worse in Black Ops. The Ballistic Knife...oh dear...
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
sooperman said:
360-only beta? What madness is this? Not even PC?

I guess I can see why they would aim a MW2 successor at the Halo crowd, but still.
It's all speculation at this point but apparently it was linked to the official COD site... If this is true I will jizz my pants.
And I'll be angry. My 360 doesn't have an Internet connection, so no beta for me. D:

Also do you have that link still? I went to callofduty.com but it said nothing about a beta.