Black Ops rage... welcome to the next year of your life.

[Numachuka]

I think it's funny that with New Vegas people were saying things like "OMG IT R JUST A NEW MAP IDUTS WHY YOU THINK NEW GAEM" because it looked the same, no one (That I've seen anyway, I don't have any statistics or hard evidence to back that up, so sorry if there is some people saying it) says that about Call of Duty.

And that chopper gunner looks about as balanced as a see-saw with a blue whale on one end and a feather on the other. But I'm yet to see it on any other maps so my opinion may change after that.

 

[Seydaman]

Quickscoping isn't sniping, it's fucking ridiculous. This means people will have to actually snipe instead of treating it as a run and gun weapon.

What this guy said
I play sniper a lot and when I run I take out my pistol
Seems logical

The first one is just because it's nuke town
You can get similar results with shipment

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Nuketown is the smallest map and easiest map for air support.

No excuse. The air support should not be allowed on the map if it's that powerful.

All of these things have been brought up since the mutiplayer info release and each and every issue people have had has been addressed very well if you ask me. I think Black Ops will be the most balanced CoD ever with what I have personally seen. Is it perfect? Of course not. But compared to MW2 or WaW it is a million times more balanced. Please don't jump the gun with negitive comments.

If you prove me wrong and this is correct, then I'll be a happy gamer.

 

[archvile93]

I could swear I predicted this...

Oh wait, I did. I said it would have balance issues like MW2 because of all the new shit their adding and not having a beta.

As for the sniping issue, that does seem pretty stupid. They could have just made it take a bit to scope in. That way it won't be quick-scoping.

Again, they could have learned all this and fix the issues if they had a beta, which they didn't have, and now its unbalanced just like MW2. Idiots.

Of course I'm just going by what you showed/described, so yeah.

Actually they did have a private beta, I'm not sure how much better that is if at all. Some people also hacked their way into the beta, which I find pretty funny.

 

[etherlance]

Well I never snipe but even I see that as something of a problem for those who do.

But that chopper gunner........There is going to be so much rage, hate and bile spewed out by so many people because of that thing.

 

[nofear220]

They have not just nerfed Quickscoping, but utterly ruined sniping. They have such a huge sniping community that this just seems like complete madness.

For the people saying it's more realistic: Since when is it realistic for a rifle to automatically sway randomly around like crazy and a bullet not to go where the crosshair is for a second and a half every time you aim down the sights?

Hell, I don't ever snipe, I don't like quickscoing and even I can see that this was a ridiculous decision. It makes the Sniper Rifles utterly redundant.

So let's say a little prayer that Treyarch will fix these things soon, or many of the COD community will finally be moving elsewhere.

EDIT:

Yes, I know I'm probably over-reacting guys. But I love the COD series and it will break my geeky little heart to have another game ruined by random, overpowered, flow-breaking, frustrating bullshit, so yeah, I get a little passionate

Don't forget I was the one talking up Black Ops for the last few months when everyone else was predicting it would be awful!

Well I for one am glad that all the quickscopers and most snipers will just stay in mw2, snipers just dont fit into a game like CoD. They work like one hit kill assault rifles in CoD, which is just cheap. Sniping only works in a game like Battlefield, large open maps with lots of cover and there IS ACTUALLY BULLET DROP.. it takes more than just point and shoot to snipe. Also your comment about realism, since when has a game like CoD been realistic IN ANY SITUATION? Black ops is going to be great, although I bet the out burst of complaints will make them ruin it with a patch.

 

[Seydaman]

That sniping change looks horrible and I'm not QQing as a quickscoper because I barely ever do it but they way I snipe is ruined. I like to watch the map out of scope(a nice HDTV and good eye-sight help with this) and watch for movement on the map then scope in and line up my shot. Now with people moving I usually don't have more than seven seconds or so to take down the target but with two to three of those being stolen by a 'no kill' wait timer that will be a massive pain in the ass. I've gotten myself over halfway through 8th prestige in MW2 doing this and more than a few of my kills come in that Black Ops 'no kill.'

Also, the M14 EBR (yes I know MW2 calls it the M21 but they're wrong) is a modified assault rifle so not being able to use it as an assault weapon seems strange to me. I'm not defending quickscoping but those arguing the realism card need to ponder that fact. Also, you can see in Black Hawk Down a sniper team using M14 EBRs like assault rifles to fend off the Somalis(I think thats what you call them), and I know its a movie but it still demonstrates my point. Last note, using a scope would be difficult at that close range but not impossible.

Lastly, I hope to got the M14 is a rifle in Black Ops. I loved it in MW and if Black Ops has it I may buy the game just for it.

I believe if your crouched/prone standing still there won't be a no kill timer, I believe it's when your sprinting around at full clip then going into scope.

 

[DigitalSushi]

A world where a forum Troll can be called out as someone begging for attention because he so desperately wants it. A person, lets say, who would call a game unbalanced and broken. Totally unworthy of game play time. Even if he is going to the midnight launch and will then return to his hovel of loneliness. Maybe in that time he will then learn he was wrong and that informed opinion on what needs improving is more important than getting random strangers pissy at him for being so stoically uninformed and spreading rumor and whining as fact.

MiracleOfSound isn't a troll, I'd stop the sideways insults towards people too.

This site isn't like others where you can argue just for the sake of argueing, if you think Miracle is incorrect then tell him so without acting like a smart ass about it.

If you have any issues with the above, PM me, I'll gladly help you out with the conduct we expect of our members here.

~ColdStorage

 

[Layzor]

Oh no, maybe you will have to snipe with your sniper now.

If anything this fills me with confidence, the colour scheme looks lovely.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Actually they did have a private beta, I'm not sure how much better that is if at all. Some people also hacked their way into the beta, which I find pretty funny.

Private Betas don't work because they aren't played by douchebags, they're played by more serious, fair minded gamers for the most part.

What they need to do is let the douchebags run riot in a Beta and find all the glitches and exploits, then patch them all before release.

 

[Merkavar]

i dont know about the dogs but the rc car seems right. if you bunch up you gonna get blowed up.

and with the sniping, quick scoping is stupid anyway. everything that i have seen about it seems to make it look more and more like a glitch or exploit. people wouldnt even use the scope at all they quick scope that fast.

how is sniping redundant? i sniped in mw and mw2 and i never quick scoped and i got kills.

 

[Legendairy314]

Wasn't going to buy this day one anyways. CoD has basically become the Madden for the FPS genre. Not enough changes to warrant me getting excited for it and then play it before everyone knows all the spawn kill spots.

If it's improved enough I might consider asking for it as a gift. I'll let all those Machinima folk tell me if it's balanced or not.

 

[Slash12]

OMG, TREYARCH IS TRYING TO MAKE SNIPING AS REAL AS POSSIBLE?! THOSE BASTARDS!

No if it was as real as possible the sniper rifle would be able to shoot straight from the hip. (Assuming you could take the recoil without using your shoulder) - Thats why I like Halo sniping

 

[Snotnarok]

Reading all the arguments I gotta say some are over exaggerating the cheapneess of these things in MW2 if not black ops.

Most of the kill streaks were easily shot down if you had cold blooded, and if you didn't make a class to shoot down air support then that's kind of your problem and maybe you should learn from that.

Did I enjoy MW2? Not really the whole community just annoyed me and the bragging about skill while your kill streaks got half your kills again confused me.

 

[BlueberryMUNCH]

The chopper gunner...fair enough, its a small map, need to get 11 kills...fine.

The quickscoping though...hrr.

See, I did it because I had a really fun time doing it, and it was challenging and satisfying for me. Cod4 did it right, and I'm pretty upset they ruined it completely:/.

I'll see how it is when I pick the game up...eventually. But atm...this does not look good D:

But seriously, why the beef?
People have fun playing the game in different ways, it doesn't mean their wrong for playing like that?

Games are for people to have fun, and I talk on behalf of the quickscoping community when I say...that's how we have fun. Going around with a TAR-21 silenced with predator, harrier and chopper gunner is just boring for me...doesn't mean you guys that find that enjoyable should get so defensive and aggy.

Chill out guys, it's just a game -___________-'' and don't pass judgement until you've played it.

ugh.

Eeeeexactly!

Although I do find quickscoping REALLY frustrating(I don't do it myself), it's how some people prefer to play so I can't complain. Though the insults/taunts are the worst part. (Not the funny banter which occasionally happens, the really annoying 12 year old spoilt brat calling everyone noobs)

Glad to see you can understand what I'm on about:].
But yeah, I agree with you on that. I mean, I'd be a hypocrite if I was to say 'only over 18's should play the game', but I think that if young kids do play, they should at least show courtesy to their opponents...urgh they make me rage. 'Hardscope F****t' is the most pathetic 'insult', since you are supposed to 'hardscope' with a sniper.

HRRRR THEY MAKETH ME MAD.

But yeah, thanks for supporting meh

 

[MiracleOfSound]

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Well I for one am glad that all the quickscopers and most snipers will just stay in mw2, snipers just dont fit into a game like CoD. They work like one hit kill assault rifles in CoD, which is just cheap. Sniping only works in a game like Battlefield, large open maps with lots of cover and there IS ACTUALLY BULLET DROP.. it takes more than just point and shoot to snipe. Also your comment about realism, since when has a game like CoD been realistic IN ANY SITUATION? Black ops is going to be great, although I bet the out burst of complaints will make them ruin it with a patch.

I actually don't care about realism at all, I'm with you on that one. It's just that people are arguing that this is how snipers in the game should be because 'it's more realistic'.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

how is sniping redundant? i sniped in mw and mw2 and i never quick scoped and i got kills.

Because they have added in a mechanic that makes the sniper sway around (as if you just fired it) when you look down the sights.

I.e., when you scope in it flies all over the screen for a second and a half then settles, and even if your crosshairs are dead on the guy, your bullet won't hit him.

 

[DigitalSushi]

To me that looks like really bad network code not registering shots or bad collision detection playing foul here, probably a bit of both.

When the network code gets tightened up and it fucking will people, this is Treyarch a company who have pledged support for the game, then I'm certain the Sniping will work without the gimped QuickScoping.

Remember that in MW2 You didn't need Sleight of Hand to be a good Sniper, my cousin hates that perk, he feels it takes away from the essence of a Sniping duel, and I watched that handsome little shit do a 38 killstreak.