Black people playing Norse gods

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bdcjacko

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008Zulu said:
bdcjacko said:
008Zulu said:
They're Gods, they can choose to appear as they wish.
Why would the white god choose to be a black guy?
Sometimes us lower mortals wake up in the morning and say to ourselves;
"its time for a new hairstyle."
When a God wakes up;
"I think I will be a black person today."

Whats life without whimsey?
You win this round.
 

dfphetteplace

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I don't see why something based on Norse mythology should involve a black person. This is kind of like when they cast Will Smith in I Am Legend. They take a character, that has been described as white, and then they change it for no good reason. I don't think it is racist to expect that things be done properly. Imagine if they made a movie based on the Drizzt Saga (which would be awesome if they didn't fuck it up), and they cast a white person as Drizzt, who is a black elf. It wouldn't make a damn bit of sense, and would piss off a bunch of people, those that love the story and those that have no idea that there is something called "Forgotten Realms". It would be a white person playing the role of a character with black skin. In the end, it is just skin pigment, but it doesn't need to be politically correct since it is just a damned movie. Now if they didn't cast a black person as a Norse god, and referred to black humans as slaves and niggers, then yeah, that would be pretty fucking racist.
Note: I refused to use the term "The "N" Word" as we would all know what I mean, and it would be pointless. I am not referring to anyone by that word, and I personally find the word offensive.
 

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WolfThomas said:
The Human Torch said:
Don't be stupid, I would have raged as much if they portrayed Jim Rhodes (Warmachine) as a white guy. Respect the source material. I don't want a black Captain America and I don't want a white Black Panther. And yes, the color does matter if you are basing a role in a movie of an existing character. As much as his demeanor, his haircut and his clothes.
I think there's a difference between main characters (and important secondary characters) and what is basically a bit character. Seriously what importance has Heimdall had in the last sixty odd years of comics? He guards a bridge and ocaisonally forsees danger. That's probably all we'll see in this movie.

Everyone's making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
 

Littaly

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Thor is already the worst offender when it comes to messing up Norse gods, one black man isn't gonna make it worse than it already is :p
 
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The Human Torch said:
WolfThomas said:
The Human Torch said:
Don't be stupid, I would have raged as much if they portrayed Jim Rhodes (Warmachine) as a white guy. Respect the source material. I don't want a black Captain America and I don't want a white Black Panther. And yes, the color does matter if you are basing a role in a movie of an existing character. As much as his demeanor, his haircut and his clothes.
I think there's a difference between main characters (and important secondary characters) and what is basically a bit character. Seriously what importance has Heimdall had in the last sixty odd years of comics? He guards a bridge and ocaisonally forsees danger. That's probably all we'll see in this movie.

Everyone's making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
It is a black Heimdall not Thor.
 

The Human Torch

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mr_rubino said:
I'm sure that'll be kept that in mind once the Caps and Blacks movies come around. As for the peripheral characters of absolutely no consequence, it'll pretty much open season on race for them. Next!

Hey, we gotta protect the racial purity of the made-up characters somehow. If we have a black Heimdal, then who knows what side characters could be next? Do you want your children exposed to the possibility of a Polynesian Cloak and Guatemalan Dagger in the next Spiderman movie? That's a world I can't live in.
So because you find a few characters of no consequence, I should not care for them either? What a monstrous insinuation. Your opinion > everyone else. Am I right?

I care less about racial purity, you keep playing the racism card, but that's not what it's about for me. I don't like Optimus Prime looking like a pimped pile of molten metal shards and I don't want a purple Hulk. If they make a movie of the Black Panther, I want him to be black, if they feature the Falcon in the Avengers movie I want him to be black too.

This has nothing to do with race/color/origin, this has to do with a simple preference of seeing comic-book heroes I grew up in their original state.
 

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Amy Sorel said:
Thor is a comicbook superhero based on Norse mythology, it IS NOT Norse mythology. End.

For hundreds of years Jesus was drawn as tall white guy with blond flowing hair and pale skin, when he probably was a short guy with dark curly hair and very tanned skin.
Incidentally, one factor in the 'whitewashing' of Jesus was probably the church trying to deflect attention away from the fact that the Messiah is the same ethnicity as the people they're killing en masse.

OT: I don't really care who plays what, as long as they're a good actor who brings something interesting to the role.
 

The Human Torch

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Glademaster said:
The Human Torch said:
WolfThomas said:
The Human Torch said:
Don't be stupid, I would have raged as much if they portrayed Jim Rhodes (Warmachine) as a white guy. Respect the source material. I don't want a black Captain America and I don't want a white Black Panther. And yes, the color does matter if you are basing a role in a movie of an existing character. As much as his demeanor, his haircut and his clothes.
I think there's a difference between main characters (and important secondary characters) and what is basically a bit character. Seriously what importance has Heimdall had in the last sixty odd years of comics? He guards a bridge and ocaisonally forsees danger. That's probably all we'll see in this movie.

Everyone's making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
It is a black Heimdall not Thor.
Yeah, you are right, just getting way too heated up with using the Thor name in this debate. Heimdall's skin was apparently more white than that of other gods, and his teeth were gold.

That will look flashing won't it, a black guy with golden teeth. Way to racial stereo-type, right? Bring on the discriminatory problems.
 

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Amy Sorel said:
For hundreds of years Jesus was drawn as tall white guy with blond flowing hair and pale skin
^^This. Cesare Borgia, if I am not mistaken was the face who's likeliness became iconical for Artists depiction of the son of God. Thank you for pointing that out! Why get all caught up on what the outside of a person looks like?? (Scarlett Johansson, notwithstanding. hiyoooooooooo)

I don't rightfully care if an African guy plays a European diety, or the other way around. I only tend to get pissed if the voice or acting doesnt fit my minds projection of what should be "correct"

The casting, i couldnt care less about. Just don't phone it in, show some skills



Just an excuse to post this? yowsers!
Is that legal?
 
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The Human Torch said:
Glademaster said:
The Human Torch said:
WolfThomas said:
The Human Torch said:
Don't be stupid, I would have raged as much if they portrayed Jim Rhodes (Warmachine) as a white guy. Respect the source material. I don't want a black Captain America and I don't want a white Black Panther. And yes, the color does matter if you are basing a role in a movie of an existing character. As much as his demeanor, his haircut and his clothes.
I think there's a difference between main characters (and important secondary characters) and what is basically a bit character. Seriously what importance has Heimdall had in the last sixty odd years of comics? He guards a bridge and ocaisonally forsees danger. That's probably all we'll see in this movie.

Everyone's making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
It is a black Heimdall not Thor.
Yeah, you are right, just getting way too heated up with using the Thor name in this debate. Heimdall's skin was apparently more white than that of other gods, and his teeth were gold.

That will look flashing won't it, a black guy with golden teeth. Way to racial stereo-type, right? Bring on the discriminatory problems.
Well see that is part about this that kinda annoys me. Whether by accident or not it seems they pick the whitest of the white gods to make him black. Could of been anyone else but they pick him seems like nothing but troll bait or trying to be edgy to me.
 

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The Human Torch said:
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
That not what I'm saying, I don't agree with a black Thor, but I don't give a damn about black Heimdall.
 

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I'd rather have a black guy playing an African God. But in the case of this movie... well its like God of War, its a Mythology Fan Fiction. If we have the god of thunder being sent down to earth to be a super and teaming up with a rich guy in a robot suit and a man who turns into a ogre when he gets angry... well who really gives shit if a bit part goes to a black guy?
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Littlee300 said:
Well, hey, they've got a pie chart, so I guess Thor is racist. Seriously, at least say the original myths were about white power, or even the comic books. I'm not saying they ARE, as I know little about both, but at least there's enough public information about them to make the argument. Unlike the movie. Which barely even has a trailer. Seems like the guys down at Penny Arcade are making a bit of an assumption here.

OT: It's not racist. The Norse Gods did not, and do not, exist. Therefore, we can make them look however the hell we want. I'm pretty sure they won't object.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/pa-the-series/205/ I am so original ^.^
 

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joystickjunki3 said:
What would happen if a white man was cast as an African god?
They already did that. Haven't you seen the Gods must be Crazy?

As for the actor playing Heimdall, I wouldn't care is he was plaid-coloured, so long as he plays his part well.

Most people really don't care about things like race for acting parts. Those few who complain about it are a vocal yet utterly insignificant group.
 

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a white guy played the prince of persia, racists point is moot.

they're talking about a mythical person never displayed in visual media and weren't the norse myths full of gods appearing in whatever form they felt like anyway? whatever, they're racists and the only reason they object is because they're racist and they have a great big hard on for anything norse and despite having nothing at all to do with the place like to co-opt their culture.
 

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Glademaster said:
The Human Torch said:
Glademaster said:
The Human Torch said:
WolfThomas said:
The Human Torch said:
Don't be stupid, I would have raged as much if they portrayed Jim Rhodes (Warmachine) as a white guy. Respect the source material. I don't want a black Captain America and I don't want a white Black Panther. And yes, the color does matter if you are basing a role in a movie of an existing character. As much as his demeanor, his haircut and his clothes.
I think there's a difference between main characters (and important secondary characters) and what is basically a bit character. Seriously what importance has Heimdall had in the last sixty odd years of comics? He guards a bridge and ocaisonally forsees danger. That's probably all we'll see in this movie.

Everyone's making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
It is a black Heimdall not Thor.
Yeah, you are right, just getting way too heated up with using the Thor name in this debate. Heimdall's skin was apparently more white than that of other gods, and his teeth were gold.

That will look flashing won't it, a black guy with golden teeth. Way to racial stereo-type, right? Bring on the discriminatory problems.
Well see that is part about this that kinda annoys me. Whether by accident or not it seems they pick the whitest of the white gods to make him black. Could of been anyone else but they pick him seems like nothing but troll bait or trying to be edgy to me.
I notice this happens a lot, with not-racists always assigning ulterior motives to people who cast black people in roles they don't approve of black people playing. It's not as if the Thor comics have very little to actually do with the pointless minutiae of Norse mythology, and they picked the guy who gave the best audition.
I think we both know the real reason he was cast: affirmative action. Am I rite?

WolfThomas said:
The Human Torch said:
So because I don't agree with a black Thor because I prefer them to keep my childhood memories of an awesome hero intact, I am making a mountain out of a mole-hill? I wanted to see the Thor movie with Thor as I read about him in the comic books and that old Hulk movie where he guest-starred in.

Just because you see him as a secondary character, doesn't mean that others do.
That not what I'm saying, I don't agree with a black Thor, but I don't give a damn about black Heimdall.
It's a pointless tangent because he can't defend his point. Don't get swept up in that stuff.
 

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Quantum Roberts said:
Shortened for our convenience.
I'm not entirely certain about Odin. When I think loud and boisterous, I think Thor. Big strong Norse God, bearded and bearing a mighty hammer. Renditions of the god I've seen in stories seem to follow along this line, mostly. Of course, it doesn't help that my influences there are - amusingly enough - Neil Gaiman and Douglas Adams. More often than not, Odin seems the more reserved sort of person, given that he's a one-eyed man who gave up said eye for wisdom. Does this really seem like Blessed [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1zjeYhJs7o]?