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I guess it looks nice... for outside and in the cold.
Otherwise, though, I think it just looks kind of weird to wear such a large coat inside.
Of course, this might be skewed by the fact that the sketchiest guy Ive ever known in my life wore a trench coat like that...
Otherwise, though, I think it just looks kind of weird to wear such a large coat inside.
Of course, this might be skewed by the fact that the sketchiest guy Ive ever known in my life wore a trench coat like that...
I love it, I want one, the only thing stopping me from tracking you down is that I live in australia and I'd boil in it
looks like... bit like tennat's dr who overcoat. if i had any interest in clothing, i might wear something like that.
i too wear mostly black clothes (occasional mix of white and blue), and no im not goth either.
i too wear mostly black clothes (occasional mix of white and blue), and no im not goth either.
Sorry about a bit of a thread hijack, but as I wrote the post to discuss black coats I sort of got sidetracked and ended up writing something educative about goths and name-calling. I've included a tldr for those who don't care, but I think that some of the points raised about the "black" styles might be useful for the discussion.
tldr:
1: Your coat is awesome. Keep it up fellow Swede.
2: For those of you who want the "caped coat", check out The Kensington coat from darkangel clothing. That's style! http://www.thedarkangel.com/catalogue3.php?p=73
Back in the day (I feel old now) when I got into the gothic scene, a scene I have yet to leave, I started out with a nice long black leather coat. I unfortunately did this right around the time when the first matrix movie was released (so it wasn't that long ago...just ten years or so). This had what felt like 90% of the population shouting "Neo!" at my back. I decided not to let this bother me as I saw it as a sign of the times, for people who didn't know goth (this was before the Emo-goth wave that came after the movie) it's quite logical to assume that they want to make a humorus quip at what they think they recognize as a tribute to a popular movie. This phenomenon persisted for several years and it is probably the same reason why you are being called Luke skywalker. I'm guessing that people who can't really place you in any style associate you with what they know, and for some reason jump to Luke.
(Bearing in mind I haven't watched episode 2 and 3 and as such can't really say if Luke wears a black robe or coat at any point, but I'm guessing he does)
Now to expound a bit on the concept of name calling. During my first years of gothing around there was a stereotype about us going about. Listen closely and say yes if it sounds familiar.
"Goths are nothing but angsty, whining, high-school dropouts who are into arts and writing bad poetry. They like to think they are cool, possibly vampires, and frequently indulge in self mutilation, blood sports and anti-social behaviour. Oh...did I meantion they cry a lot?"
Me and my gothic friends laughed long and hard at these rumors, made them our own, and poked fun at the stereotype. (Athough some of it was true, SSRIs and vampire romaticism was abound
) But it was with little amazement that I, some six years later, found that a new group had sprung up, the Emo, and that exactly the same rethoric was used to describe them as it was with the goths ten years ago. The reason it didn't surprise me in the least was that it was the same pattern of "Neo" name calling as I had seen when I became part of the gothic style/movement. People just had trouble clasifying what they saw as different and, as humans are, needed to define what they saw, to create a common concept for a word that didn't have one yet. And as such they latched onto whatever was there, such as strange clothes, expressing emotions openly, and whatever was inherited fromt he gothic scene (such as angst and self mutialtion). It's just a sign of the times and it'll blow over. Just as a lot of (most of) my gothic friends have shifted from their style. Such things happen.
These days people go on and on about Emos, vamps, twilight enthusists, furries, etc. even when even the hate is just a fad, really. What does count is what you feel comfortable wearing. Sure, the opinions of others will affect what you feel alright with, but in the end, just go with what feels nice to step outside in. I still do eyeliner, I still own five coats of different lenghts, fabrics and styles, that I altenate along the week. I still only wear black, red, and white (white shirts look awesome with a black pin-striped-vest and tie) and I'm pretty happy that the emos have taken over the mantle of the most hated subculture, since I can live my life without pointless fad-induldging haters.
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And finally (this turned into quite the post) some basic deffinitions on goth clothing and it's affiliated styles. This is from a clothing perspective only. I will as such avoid discussing the possible "lifestyles" associated with the styles. You can easily be a punk in a suit, but discussing that is not the point of this post. Also: These definitions are not set in stone, I'm actually quite eager to discuss them if you want, but it's based off of what I've seen during my years in the subculture. There are several types of "alternatives". More than I care to list here, but to give general guidlines on what is what. I'll try to define a few of the more common groups.
1: "Classic" goth: These are the Anne rice worshipping, Victorian era wearing, "I art gothier than thou"-kinds of goth. They try to dress snappy often getting a bit "costumy" since their clothes are often anachronistic and overdressed for the occasion. Long coats, top hats, crushed velvet, anything that looks as if if comes form some sort of occult London in the 1850s-1890s is good.
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs30/300W/i/2009/251/0/3/Dark_Victorian_Goth_Stock_001_by_FroweMinahildStock.jpg
2: "Neo goth": A pun on words, both reffering to the protagonist from the matrix movie and the word Neo as "new", Is the type of goth that is often most associated with the general goth style. It shares a lot of its aestetic with the military synth style in that it incorperates long leather coats, high militairy boots, and militariy style black shirts, but it also borrows for the occultism of the classic goths and as such will often wear jewlery, make-up, and other occult symbols. Sometimes, but not always, knowing what they represent.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Goth-p1020640.jpg
https://www.andymillar.co.uk/gallery/blog-2008/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg
3: modern Emo: Not to be confuesd with the music/lifestyles that came into being during the 90's. Modern emo is more of a goth that got influenced by the fashion-core scene as well as the J-goth (Japan-goth) styles. Clothes with stripes, tight jeans, converse shoes, eyeliner, metal/plastic acessories are all part of this huge, quite divergent, style. I've had a hard time pinning down emo fashion wise, but to me it's a base of black with often very contrasting colors like pink, light green och white thrown into the mix, preferably by the way of stipes. Converse shoes also seem to be a bit of a must-have, at least for the Swedish emo.
http://www.photographenbuero.de/photographenbuero2.0/BLOG/1620B0E3-9BAC-4AF9-89AD-22B579743DB8_files/Emo-Kids_I_167.jpg
4: Punk: You should know these. Goth sprang out of the punk genre in the 70's but shares very little with its parent. Punk clothing is most often worn down leather, studs, naturally worn out jeans, and pretty unwashed. It's quite "trashy" IMO and is, I suppose, meant to signify the slightly anarchist "I don't follow dress codes" lifestyle of the wearer. I will not go into punk as I abhorr the style. I find it quite ugly
http://travelblog.viator.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/berlin-punk-things-to-do.jpg
5: Rave: Ravers seem to be different all over the world but a few basic things that are often common denominators are the black clothes with figures or borders in flourescent colors that will come to life in UV light. Another often seen choice is the "little top, lots bottom" approach, where tank-tops and t-shirts are worn with large trousers and/or fluffy legwarmers. Rave is the least black of the styles as the base-black of the ones listed above (maybe not punk) does not apply to ravers. Other common sights are strips of platic, leather or even yarn fastned as extension in the hair for an extra dramatic effect when dacing.
http://ravegear.com.au/coming-soon/images/girls-rave-outfit.jpg
I think I'll stop here. There are rockabilies, Metal head, Synths, fetish goths, gothic lolitas (which paradoxically isn't goth) and many more. But I will elave off saying that first of all there is a lot of inbreeding among the styles and it's RARE to find someone who fits into only one of the above. The second thing is that there is a lot of difference even amongst the western countries on their "take" on goth. And as such there is a stereotype for the A-goth (american), E-goth (european) and J-goth (Japanese). Just so you know.
tldr:
1: Your coat is awesome. Keep it up fellow Swede.
2: For those of you who want the "caped coat", check out The Kensington coat from darkangel clothing. That's style! http://www.thedarkangel.com/catalogue3.php?p=73
Back in the day (I feel old now) when I got into the gothic scene, a scene I have yet to leave, I started out with a nice long black leather coat. I unfortunately did this right around the time when the first matrix movie was released (so it wasn't that long ago...just ten years or so). This had what felt like 90% of the population shouting "Neo!" at my back. I decided not to let this bother me as I saw it as a sign of the times, for people who didn't know goth (this was before the Emo-goth wave that came after the movie) it's quite logical to assume that they want to make a humorus quip at what they think they recognize as a tribute to a popular movie. This phenomenon persisted for several years and it is probably the same reason why you are being called Luke skywalker. I'm guessing that people who can't really place you in any style associate you with what they know, and for some reason jump to Luke.
(Bearing in mind I haven't watched episode 2 and 3 and as such can't really say if Luke wears a black robe or coat at any point, but I'm guessing he does)
Now to expound a bit on the concept of name calling. During my first years of gothing around there was a stereotype about us going about. Listen closely and say yes if it sounds familiar.
"Goths are nothing but angsty, whining, high-school dropouts who are into arts and writing bad poetry. They like to think they are cool, possibly vampires, and frequently indulge in self mutilation, blood sports and anti-social behaviour. Oh...did I meantion they cry a lot?"
Me and my gothic friends laughed long and hard at these rumors, made them our own, and poked fun at the stereotype. (Athough some of it was true, SSRIs and vampire romaticism was abound
) But it was with little amazement that I, some six years later, found that a new group had sprung up, the Emo, and that exactly the same rethoric was used to describe them as it was with the goths ten years ago. The reason it didn't surprise me in the least was that it was the same pattern of "Neo" name calling as I had seen when I became part of the gothic style/movement. People just had trouble clasifying what they saw as different and, as humans are, needed to define what they saw, to create a common concept for a word that didn't have one yet. And as such they latched onto whatever was there, such as strange clothes, expressing emotions openly, and whatever was inherited fromt he gothic scene (such as angst and self mutialtion). It's just a sign of the times and it'll blow over. Just as a lot of (most of) my gothic friends have shifted from their style. Such things happen.These days people go on and on about Emos, vamps, twilight enthusists, furries, etc. even when even the hate is just a fad, really. What does count is what you feel comfortable wearing. Sure, the opinions of others will affect what you feel alright with, but in the end, just go with what feels nice to step outside in. I still do eyeliner, I still own five coats of different lenghts, fabrics and styles, that I altenate along the week. I still only wear black, red, and white (white shirts look awesome with a black pin-striped-vest and tie) and I'm pretty happy that the emos have taken over the mantle of the most hated subculture, since I can live my life without pointless fad-induldging haters.
---
And finally (this turned into quite the post) some basic deffinitions on goth clothing and it's affiliated styles. This is from a clothing perspective only. I will as such avoid discussing the possible "lifestyles" associated with the styles. You can easily be a punk in a suit, but discussing that is not the point of this post. Also: These definitions are not set in stone, I'm actually quite eager to discuss them if you want, but it's based off of what I've seen during my years in the subculture. There are several types of "alternatives". More than I care to list here, but to give general guidlines on what is what. I'll try to define a few of the more common groups.
1: "Classic" goth: These are the Anne rice worshipping, Victorian era wearing, "I art gothier than thou"-kinds of goth. They try to dress snappy often getting a bit "costumy" since their clothes are often anachronistic and overdressed for the occasion. Long coats, top hats, crushed velvet, anything that looks as if if comes form some sort of occult London in the 1850s-1890s is good.
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs30/300W/i/2009/251/0/3/Dark_Victorian_Goth_Stock_001_by_FroweMinahildStock.jpg
2: "Neo goth": A pun on words, both reffering to the protagonist from the matrix movie and the word Neo as "new", Is the type of goth that is often most associated with the general goth style. It shares a lot of its aestetic with the military synth style in that it incorperates long leather coats, high militairy boots, and militariy style black shirts, but it also borrows for the occultism of the classic goths and as such will often wear jewlery, make-up, and other occult symbols. Sometimes, but not always, knowing what they represent.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Goth-p1020640.jpg
https://www.andymillar.co.uk/gallery/blog-2008/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg
3: modern Emo: Not to be confuesd with the music/lifestyles that came into being during the 90's. Modern emo is more of a goth that got influenced by the fashion-core scene as well as the J-goth (Japan-goth) styles. Clothes with stripes, tight jeans, converse shoes, eyeliner, metal/plastic acessories are all part of this huge, quite divergent, style. I've had a hard time pinning down emo fashion wise, but to me it's a base of black with often very contrasting colors like pink, light green och white thrown into the mix, preferably by the way of stipes. Converse shoes also seem to be a bit of a must-have, at least for the Swedish emo.
http://www.photographenbuero.de/photographenbuero2.0/BLOG/1620B0E3-9BAC-4AF9-89AD-22B579743DB8_files/Emo-Kids_I_167.jpg
4: Punk: You should know these. Goth sprang out of the punk genre in the 70's but shares very little with its parent. Punk clothing is most often worn down leather, studs, naturally worn out jeans, and pretty unwashed. It's quite "trashy" IMO and is, I suppose, meant to signify the slightly anarchist "I don't follow dress codes" lifestyle of the wearer. I will not go into punk as I abhorr the style. I find it quite ugly
http://travelblog.viator.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/berlin-punk-things-to-do.jpg
5: Rave: Ravers seem to be different all over the world but a few basic things that are often common denominators are the black clothes with figures or borders in flourescent colors that will come to life in UV light. Another often seen choice is the "little top, lots bottom" approach, where tank-tops and t-shirts are worn with large trousers and/or fluffy legwarmers. Rave is the least black of the styles as the base-black of the ones listed above (maybe not punk) does not apply to ravers. Other common sights are strips of platic, leather or even yarn fastned as extension in the hair for an extra dramatic effect when dacing.
http://ravegear.com.au/coming-soon/images/girls-rave-outfit.jpg
I think I'll stop here. There are rockabilies, Metal head, Synths, fetish goths, gothic lolitas (which paradoxically isn't goth) and many more. But I will elave off saying that first of all there is a lot of inbreeding among the styles and it's RARE to find someone who fits into only one of the above. The second thing is that there is a lot of difference even amongst the western countries on their "take" on goth. And as such there is a stereotype for the A-goth (american), E-goth (european) and J-goth (Japanese). Just so you know.
I don't get it, the Luke Skywalker thing that is... maybe if you wore trendy sunglasses too they'd have grounds to call you Neo.
Anyway, it's a trenchcoat, not a robe and it's nice looking. I'm too tall for such a coat though, long length clothes on tall people look unusual.
I'm more of a dark blues or khaki person anyway, it's easier to blend into the background unoticed, but then I'm 26 so trends and styles and things that young people tend to fall into are well behind me and I can just look back and laugh at myself... which is why you notice it gets more difficult to find the unique style clothing in adult sizes as you get older, or at least it did before Internet shopping.
Anyway, it's a trenchcoat, not a robe and it's nice looking. I'm too tall for such a coat though, long length clothes on tall people look unusual.
I'm more of a dark blues or khaki person anyway, it's easier to blend into the background unoticed, but then I'm 26 so trends and styles and things that young people tend to fall into are well behind me and I can just look back and laugh at myself... which is why you notice it gets more difficult to find the unique style clothing in adult sizes as you get older, or at least it did before Internet shopping.
Theyre not calling me it for me being a nerd in general becausejboking said:
1. They only call me it when I have it on
2. Ive never seen a star wars film in my life, just a few small youtube clips that friends have linked
3. They dont even know me the only time they ever see me is when I walk past them in the hall at school.
...Must get trench coat and a fedoraMordaci said:So, I wear all black clothes. Im not goth or emo or anything, I just like black clothes because it makes me feel thinner (Low Self-Esteem). Anyway, I also wear a black robe. Most people I know dont comment it, or they give positive comments. Even the teachers in my school give me extremely positive comments, (My music teacher said it reminded him of his childhood and I got 2 hours of time to myself to play guitar without everyone else banging the drums to death). Anyway, some of the people in my school that I dont really know at all mock me and call me Luke Skywalker.. Which in my opinion is the most tasteless joke ive ever heard. Anyway, it doesnt bother me, but what im wondering is what is your opinion on black robes?
The robe I wear.
EDIT: I didnt know what it was called in english so I just wrote something.. Overcoat, Trench Coat, Whatever.
I used to own a few back in high school. Have to say, they're pretty comfortable and the particularly long ones are nice on those especially cold, windy days.
Best one I had was lined on the inside with a removable, heavy down "comforter" type...thing or whatever. Warmest coat ever.
Best one I had was lined on the inside with a removable, heavy down "comforter" type...thing or whatever. Warmest coat ever.