Blazblue: Chronophantasma releases tomorrow in the USA!

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Hi, we used to have a couple BB groups here but they died a deadly death so I made this topic to talk about this awesome game and organize matches. If people want (and are willing to actively participate) I'm up for starting a new, active BB group but for now this topic is it.




Talk about anything regarding this game here and you can feel free to ask questions about it since I've been playing the imported version that came out in October so I know a thing or two.
 

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I'm pretty excited for this, as I haven't played an anime fighting game in a while. Will be nice to take a break from SFIV and Marvel and jump into some good ol anime fighting.
 

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Got any tips on go combos with Noel and Hakumen? (mostly Noel, seeing as though she's my main), maybe Ragna and (non-Hazama) Terumi as well?
 

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I want this and don't at the same time.

Kokonoe and Terumi will be DLC only. I don't like buying DLC. :/

And I already like taking my copy of CS Extend around the place and challenging my friends. Just seems a bit saddening to know I can't have these two awesome characters available for that.
 

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I have actually ordered an import copy this time as I am sick of waiting for them to eventually decide to release it in Europe hopefully I get it in a few weeks or earlier.

I think I will stick with Makoto but I want to try out Bullet and Azrael. I absolutely suck at BB hopefully I am able to put some time in and at least learn some basic B and B combos this time.

Has Kokonoe been toned down yet? I heard they were doing that in a patch but I dont know what happened, she was absolutely insane from what I saw a while ago sure it took skill but holy hell the lockdown, pressure and mixups were ridiculous it reminded me of Marvel 3 with the one touch death combos.

I hear Makoto is pretty bad but better than her last iteration at least not that it matters to much I would play her even if she was roll tier.

Arcs got one hell of a year lined up for 2014 and Sega isnt looking to shabby either which is surprising.
 

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Wait, really!? Shit, they could have given us some warning!
Now to go down in the bunkers to avoid spoilers while I wait for the price to drop. Might as well dust off my skills while I'm down there...
 

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KOMega said:
I want this and don't at the same time.

Kokonoe and Terumi will be DLC only. I don't like buying DLC. :/

And I already like taking my copy of CS Extend around the place and challenging my friends. Just seems a bit saddening to know I can't have these two awesome characters available for that.

If you get the digital version preorder you apparently get Kokonoe for free, actually.

https://twitter.com/aksysgames/status/448256157787107330

Terumi is bundled with the physical copies during the first print run, as well so I guess you get one and have to buy the other. I bought Kokonoe for my JP version.


Kheapathic said:
Gonna enjoy playing Hakumen. Loved him from the first BB, granted he was bat-shit powerful in the original. He's still strong but they toned him down to give him more options and can't wait. I didn't want to import it since I was certain there was going to be a domestic release... and I wasn't gonna be impatient for it.

Hakumen was actually the second WORST char of the game in the first BB. In contrast, he's top 5 material in Chronophantasma.
DarklordKyo said:
Got any tips on go combos with Noel and Hakumen? (mostly Noel, seeing as though she's my main), maybe Ragna and (non-Hazama) Terumi as well?

Stuff like this is pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLBAKvy_H7A -Hakumen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8WfQ1Qdl-4 -Noel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LyXXlxGmkA -Terumi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16ZYpteDn6s -Ragna


Use the ingame challenge mode as well, it's pretty basic and low level/un-optimal but it can be a good first step.

Hell, I'll add one extra, this is my fav combo video of this game so far!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmDYCvAnzt0

(in no little part due to it being about my main :D)

Maximum Bert said:
I have actually ordered an import copy this time as I am sick of waiting for them to eventually decide to release it in Europe hopefully I get it in a few weeks or earlier.

I think I will stick with Makoto but I want to try out Bullet and Azrael. I absolutely suck at BB hopefully I am able to put some time in and at least learn some basic B and B combos this time.

Has Kokonoe been toned down yet? I heard they were doing that in a patch but I dont know what happened, she was absolutely insane from what I saw a while ago sure it took skill but holy hell the lockdown, pressure and mixups were ridiculous it reminded me of Marvel 3 with the one touch death combos.

I hear Makoto is pretty bad but better than her last iteration at least not that it matters to much I would play her even if she was roll tier.

Arcs got one hell of a year lined up for 2014 and Sega isnt looking to shabby either which is surprising.

Yep the 1.1 version which will be a free patch in the coming weeks has toned her down. For all the changes in CP1.1 go here:

http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=BlazBlue:_Chrono_Phantasma_1.10_patch_notes
 

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I'll be interested to see if this actually increases the commitment to the game in my area or if everyone who was interested shelled out for an import copy last year and has since binned the game. I'm still getting the impression that those in my area who would be interested in such a game are either sticking with Guilty Gear or have moved on to Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
 

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Dreiko said:
Yep the 1.1 version which will be a free patch in the coming weeks has toned her down. For all the changes in CP1.1 go here:

http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=BlazBlue:_Chrono_Phantasma_1.10_patch_notes
Cheers thats good to know because before she kinda looked major OP not unbeatable but a huge uphill battle for sure no matter who you are playing as. Hmmm looks like Makoto got slightly nerfed again in the patches dammit oh well shit happens I guess, wonder why they did that though? maybe its minor I dont have enough experience to know.

Just a couple of quick question are the combos shorter in this game? (compared to CSEX) and is overdrive a good addition in your opinion. Actually one more is the online code still excellent? I have heard mixed reports but it seems a fair few have reported it as not as good as BBCSEX or P4 Arena which would be strange and a great shame if it is true.

I am excited about this game though I really feel that the series has finally come into its own stylistically at least I love the use of colour in this game especially, for some reason it comes across as much stronger than the past BB titles and more in line with P4 Arena and the GG games which is awesome (not that past BB games were bad here by any means).

Oh and if you know any good Makoto vids please let me know I have seen a few but I cant seem to find much on her :(
 

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So what I'm hearing is, Kokonoe is actually a playable character now, and is awesome?

I might have to look into getting this game if it ever hits Europe.

 

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Maximum Bert said:
Dreiko said:
Yep the 1.1 version which will be a free patch in the coming weeks has toned her down. For all the changes in CP1.1 go here:

http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=BlazBlue:_Chrono_Phantasma_1.10_patch_notes
Cheers thats good to know because before she kinda looked major OP not unbeatable but a huge uphill battle for sure no matter who you are playing as. Hmmm looks like Makoto got slightly nerfed again in the patches dammit oh well shit happens I guess, wonder why they did that though? maybe its minor I dont have enough experience to know.

Just a couple of quick question are the combos shorter in this game? (compared to CSEX) and is overdrive a good addition in your opinion. Actually one more is the online code still excellent? I have heard mixed reports but it seems a fair few have reported it as not as good as BBCSEX or P4 Arena which would be strange and a great shame if it is true.

I am excited about this game though I really feel that the series has finally come into its own stylistically at least I love the use of colour in this game especially, for some reason it comes across as much stronger than the past BB titles and more in line with P4 Arena and the GG games which is awesome (not that past BB games were bad here by any means).

Oh and if you know any good Makoto vids please let me know I have seen a few but I cant seem to find much on her :(
Makoto loses a bit of oki, otherwise she's not too nerfed, though she already was pretty low to begin with. Look for Goro matches if you wanna see awesome Makoto play.


Combos are similarly long really. It depends on your starter. A small poke will only do so much but a chunky fatal counter with overdrive cancels and meter will be much longer. As for OD as a system, it's great. It makes for a whole lot of interesting situations and since the only worthwhile duration of it is when you're low on life it makes for some epic "do this combo and you're a hero but drop it and you'll most likely not make it this round" situations. OD startup is also invincible so it can be used to do some funny things like OD>720 from Tager. Also lots of DDs have extended animations during OD which look sweet.

The netcode's still good and the online room is epic. They really re-hauled how player rooms work, now you can do online training mode with people, share replays, have multiple matches going simultaneously in the same room. There's also the new lobby system where you visit a chibi arcade and play other random people who happen to be there, amassing win-streaks for everyone to see.
Loop Stricken said:
So what I'm hearing is, Kokonoe is actually a playable character now, and is awesome?

I might have to look into getting this game if it ever hits Europe.


Yep Kokopuffs is Kokonuts, watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jetDVLUz6O0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwt8tIeMLTo
 

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I was going to get it at midnight last night but it turns out the Diablo 3 expansion is the first Blizzard game in like 10 years that didn't get a midnight release at Gamestop T^T

I'll be picking it up during my lunchbreak in a couple hours. PSN name is "Valarasha". Add me, bitches! I play Bang, Noel, Nu-13 and Valk.
 

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They really should issue more warning, shit I need to buy a PS3 first and everything. However, in other news, CP will be arriving in the EU shortly next year. So no bother.

Still it would be nice to play online with people who are NOT super God Tier already. I try to play CSEX and everyone is like 900 points with Jin, Ragna and Hakumen every single time. I hear Mu-12 is still in CP right? Good, good. I can continue to play nothing but her because she is the best character in the game. By which I mean I don't get locked in the corner every single game because three knockbacks are overpowered.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
They really should issue more warning, shit I need to buy a PS3 first and everything. However, in other news, CP will be arriving in the EU shortly next year. So no bother.

Still it would be nice to play online with people who are NOT super God Tier already. I try to play CSEX and everyone is like 900 points with Jin, Ragna and Hakumen every single time. I hear Mu-12 is still in CP right? Good, good. I can continue to play nothing but her because she is the best character in the game. By which I mean I don't get locked in the corner every single game because three knockbacks are overpowered.
I hear you bro. I used to main Mu-12 , and after getting my ass whooped by eveyone and their dog, i switched to taokaka, and after getting beat by everyone and their cat, i quit playing. I'm too retarded to play a game that requires actual skill. [small] which is why i played marvel for so long[/small]
 

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krazykidd said:
The Wykydtron said:
They really should issue more warning, shit I need to buy a PS3 first and everything. However, in other news, CP will be arriving in the EU shortly next year. So no bother.

Still it would be nice to play online with people who are NOT super God Tier already. I try to play CSEX and everyone is like 900 points with Jin, Ragna and Hakumen every single time. I hear Mu-12 is still in CP right? Good, good. I can continue to play nothing but her because she is the best character in the game. By which I mean I don't get locked in the corner every single game because three knockbacks are overpowered.
I hear you bro. I used to main Mu-12 , and after getting my ass whooped by eveyone and their dog, i switched to taokaka, and after getting beat by everyone and their cat, i quit playing. I'm too retarded to play a game that requires actual skill. [small] which is why i played marvel for so long[/small]
Dude you tried to play Tao? Well there's your problem. Everybody who touches BlazBlue wants to be that guy who can do all the crazy Tao screen jumping "no way that touch confirmed into a combo" antics but nobody even halfway manages it. She's way out of everybody's league.

You know i'm glad that they removed Guard Primers for CP (I think) because they were almost as bad as purple throws. I actually manage to somehow block all this mixup shit and nevermind, might as well have not bothered because lol guard breaks.

I usually can block any standard pressure stuff because I tend to play reactionary and deal with whatever the other guy is doing instead of going in with some super game plan because that's boring as fuck, so blocking well comes with the territory. Except UMVC3 because blocking low has really specific stick positioning compared to anything else.

Seriously the perfect fighting game mechanics have already been created in the form of Persona 4 Arena. They actually bought Awakening along for BlazBlue because comebacks are awesome but stupid OP comeback modes are retarded. You are never stuck without options in P4A, mindless extended corner pressure is actually bad for you because everyone has a response to it built into their kit.

You know sometimes you could rename CSEX to Mindless Corner Pressure: The Game: DLC Included Edition
 

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The Wykydtron said:
krazykidd said:
The Wykydtron said:
They really should issue more warning, shit I need to buy a PS3 first and everything. However, in other news, CP will be arriving in the EU shortly next year. So no bother.

Still it would be nice to play online with people who are NOT super God Tier already. I try to play CSEX and everyone is like 900 points with Jin, Ragna and Hakumen every single time. I hear Mu-12 is still in CP right? Good, good. I can continue to play nothing but her because she is the best character in the game. By which I mean I don't get locked in the corner every single game because three knockbacks are overpowered.
I hear you bro. I used to main Mu-12 , and after getting my ass whooped by eveyone and their dog, i switched to taokaka, and after getting beat by everyone and their cat, i quit playing. I'm too retarded to play a game that requires actual skill. [small] which is why i played marvel for so long[/small]
Dude you tried to play Tao? Well there's your problem. Everybody who touches BlazBlue wants to be that guy who can do all the crazy Tao screen jumping "no way that touch confirmed into a combo" antics but nobody even halfway manages it. She's way out of everybody's league.

You know i'm glad that they removed Guard Primers for CP (I think) because they were almost as bad as purple throws. I actually manage to somehow block all this mixup shit and nevermind, might as well have not bothered because lol guard breaks.

I usually can block any standard pressure stuff because I tend to play reactionary and deal with whatever the other guy is doing instead of going in with some super game plan because that's boring as fuck, so blocking well comes with the territory. Except UMVC3 because blocking low has really specific stick positioning compared to anything else.

Seriously the perfect fighting game mechanics have already been created in the form of Persona 4 Arena. They actually bought Awakening along for BlazBlue because comebacks are awesome but stupid OP comeback modes are retarded. You are never stuck without options in P4A, mindless extended corner pressure is actually bad for you because everyone has a response to it built into their kit.

You know sometimes you could rename CSEX to Mindless Corner Pressure: The Game: DLC Included Edition
Lol, you're right, that is exactly why i played taokaka. And you are also right, i failled miserably. I didn't want to play Jin , because everyone plays Jin. Either way, i'll pass on the new BB, i'll hold in my excitement for the new Guilty gear XRD. Hopefully there will be an arcade stick out for the ps4 by then.
 

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The Wykydtron said:
They really should issue more warning, shit I need to buy a PS3 first and everything. However, in other news, CP will be arriving in the EU shortly next year. So no bother.
Yup why not just import it like I am doing? its ridiculous waiting for Arc games in Europe I just hope the new Persona game and GG arent region locked because I will be importing them otherwise. Im tired of supporting releases in my own territory and getting nothing for it you would think they would step up their game after BBCT and its tardy release but no they really didnt (much) and P4A was the last straw for me im not supporting incompetence from publishers anymore unfortunately I am not helping the Europe base by importing as I dont intend to buy it again but I have just been pushed past what I am willing to accept. We wait and wait and get nothing for it not even any free DLC with P4A its just sad.
 

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Maximum Bert said:
The Wykydtron said:
They really should issue more warning, shit I need to buy a PS3 first and everything. However, in other news, CP will be arriving in the EU shortly next year. So no bother.
Yup why not just import it like I am doing? its ridiculous waiting for Arc games in Europe I just hope the new Persona game and GG arent region locked because I will be importing them otherwise. Im tired of supporting releases in my own territory and getting nothing for it you would think they would step up their game after BBCT and its tardy release but no they really didnt (much) and P4A was the last straw for me im not supporting incompetence from publishers anymore unfortunately I am not helping the Europe base by importing as I dont intend to buy it again but I have just been pushed past what I am willing to accept. We wait and wait and get nothing for it not even any free DLC with P4A its just sad.
I suppose I will import it if it's not region locked, I buy everything online anyway but I wouldn't mind hearing at least an approximate EU release beforehand. I need to move money around before I start buying stuff anyway and i'm nothing if not lazy. For argument's sake what if people stop buying from EU releases and just import then they stop releasing things in the EU entirely THEN region lock to NA only. I suppose the netcode is as good as ever so I don't really have to worry about overseas connections being laggy.

Is there anything else on PS3 exclusive that's good, aside from your usual Last of Us. Isn't there something about a PSP to PS3 app thing? If so I could actually play P3P and see if it fixes any of my issues with Persona 3. I mean I bought a 3DS just for the new Ace Attorney so i've done it before but there must be other stuff out there.
 

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So why are people buying this? Theres just gonna be a rerelease in a year. Mainly cause thet don't want to patch it and add new characters.