Blizzard Announces Diablo III Release Date

[synobal]

I just want Torchlight 2.

Pretty much this. I don't like what Blizzard did with Diablo 3. Also what's the deal with the 60 dollar price tags. Not cool.

No, you don't like what Blizz seems to be doing with D3. There is a big difference between "eh, I probably won't like that" and "I don't like that.
Unless you have played the game (not the beta, the real game) you can't say anything about how you don't like it. Its like sayingI don't like the Avengers movie coming out. It just doesn't make any sense.
Even if you played the beta, that is just thr fucking beta. Betas are supposed to be laggy, choppy, unbalanced, and overall shitty. Blizz has been getting much better about responding to the public, so I don't understand how the real game could be the same as the beta.

No I know I don't like what they've done with D3, real money auction house, No Lan, 60 dollar price tag. I will be surprised if there isn't some sort of DLC.

 

[GeorgW]

Wait, it's gonna cost 60 bucks?

I plan on getting the CE so $60 doesn't matter to me

And it has always on DRM?

so it's like an MMO now? that i don't have to pay $15 a month for? down side is?

And a real money auction house?

cool, maybe it can pay for it self then. cause, ya know it works both ways and not just one -.-

I direct you to the other replies I've made in this thread, this one in particular:

~Huge snip~

 

[GeorgW]

Wait, it's gonna cost 60 bucks?

I'll allow it. It's a Blizzard game, not Cod25 with a 2 hour campaign and copy paste multiplayer.

I partly agree, but 60 bucks is still pretty hefty for a game that isn't being shipped with it's PvP component. Something that seems rather stupid considering it's being billed as an "online" game.

And it has always on DRM?

That is some bullshit indeed, but I do want to play this with friends anyway, so it doesn't affect me.

Maybe not at first blush, but the fact that it's "always-on" means there's virtually zero chance of any kind of mod or addon support coming. I'm doubting there'll even be any kind of decent custom map options. And, let's not forget the utter lack of LAN support. Something that still irks me about Starcraft 2.

That, to me, is much worse than just not being able to play solo offline. (though, that still bothers me quite a bit)

And a real money auction house?

Don't care, never gonna use it. Might even prove useful later when I have an MF character all set up (if MF still exists, don't know).

You may never use it, but it'll still be a constant presence. I guarantee it.

Not to mention, if a particular item starts becoming popular, it's very likely Blizzard will decrease it's natural drop rate in the game to help increase demand. (seeing as they take a cut of all cash exchanged on the Auction House and I recall them saying they planned to make adjustments to ingame drops "as needed") So if you learn of a particular item you want, but it just so happens to be quite high in popularity at the time, it means you'll be less likely to find one in game. Leaving you with few options besides grinding for far longer or having to spend some real money in the Auction House.

I don't understand about the always on thing being a bad thing. Shit 95% of my games are on steam, so...yeah. I am so addicted to the net that I'll got without food if I have to, to make sure that I have net.

So I am literally always on the net, thus its not an issue for me.

I'm buying the collector's Edition myself, of this and the WoW expac, and the CE of Heart of the Swarm. Whenever that comes out.

The difference here is, if the Blizzard servers go down you literally can not play Diablo 3. No matter what. If the Steam servers go down, you can still launch the games from the local client.

Plus, as I said above, always-on negates just about all community involvement. At least, in regards to mods, custom content, addons, custom maps, etc. Those are the issues people have with the always-on DRM present in this game.

I just want Torchlight 2.

^Yup.

I can't hack the constant net connection for single player, nor do I want to encourage the single-player-games-as-services trend that's inevitably going to kill gaming for me once and for all.

Exactly. I think you and I are working within the same line of thought.

I'm not bothered by requiring an online activation or the like, but having to actually be connected to a damn online server...to play solo?!....THAT doesn't sit well with me. Not at all.

I hadn't even thought about some of the implications you mentioned. Thanks for enlightening me, though it's now made me even more upset with Blizzard.

 

[Magnicon]

I still play Diablo 2 to this day, after almost 12 years. I played an unhealthy amount of Diablo 1.

I have about 1% interest in Diablo 3 at this point. Every single update on this game has been a slap in the mouth to any Diablo fan with standards. Its almost like they have gone out of their way to ruin the franchise.

- Already outdated graphics
- Watered down features
- Over streamlined
- DRM
- Real money auction house
- PvP cut from release
- No modding/custom content

Anyone who thinks this game is being released by Blizzard is dreaming. Blizzard is gone, all of its old school talented developers jumped ship years ago. What you are left with is ActivisionBlizzard. A soulless shell of a company that only cares about profit.

 

[Lunar Templar]

I direct you to the other replies I've made in this thread, this one in particular:

~Huge snip~

still can't see the big issue here. We have LOTS of games you can't play these days because of 'always online DRM' with multi player, that you can't play if the net or they're servers are down. they're called MMOs and people don't complaint about those being 'always online only' despite having to shell out $15 a month just to play the bloody thing. not to mention none of those provide a means of recouping the cost of entry, they're one big money sink.

as for the PvP, since you brought it up, meh, only people that are going to whine about that are the people that give a shit about it, personally, i couldn't care less. but this is pointless, I'm not gonna change your mind, and your not gonna change mine.

sides, I've been out of work since October, I'll take my chances

 

[-Samurai-]

As far as I'm concerned, the Diablo series ended with L.O.D. This new game is only Diablo in name, for various reasons that have already been posted.

 

[GeorgW]

I direct you to the other replies I've made in this thread, this one in particular:

~Huge snip~

still can't see the big issue here. We have LOTS of games you can't play these days because of 'always online DRM' with multi player, that you can't play if the net or they're servers are down. they're called MMOs and people don't complaint about those being 'always online only' despite having to shell out $15 a month just to play the bloody thing. not to mention none of those provide a means of recouping the cost of entry, they're one big money sink.

as for the PvP, since you brought it up, meh, only people that are going to whine about that are the people that give a shit about it, personally, i couldn't care less. but this is pointless, I'm not gonna change your mind, and your not gonna change mine.

sides, I've been out of work since October, I'll take my chances

You're probably right, I won't change your mind and you won't mine, but would you mind me at least stating my case?
Diablo 3 is not an MMO. If it were, this would all be fine (except the 60$ price tag if it has a subscription model). The reason that it isn't fine is that Diablo isn't an MMO. That's like saying that it's okay for The Elder Scrolls 6 to be completely linear and 4 hours long because CoD did it. The fact that MMOs exists has no place in this argument.
Diablo has a single player option, except you're forced to be online. There are a whole bunch of other reasons why always on DRM is a massive problems, as the following post made me realise:

~snip~

 

[Genixma]

I'll pick it up. Play through it once then spend the rest of my days replaying Diablo 2. Same thing happened with Starcraft 2 with me.

 

[Rad Party God]

And... still no release date for Torchlight 2?, because I want to play single-player offline and maybe play with some friends over lan, remember when those things existed?. Also, $60 for this!??, no thanks.

 

[Lunar Templar]

I direct you to the other replies I've made in this thread, this one in particular:

~Huge snip~

still can't see the big issue here. We have LOTS of games you can't play these days because of 'always online DRM' with multi player, that you can't play if the net or they're servers are down. they're called MMOs and people don't complaint about those being 'always online only' despite having to shell out $15 a month just to play the bloody thing. not to mention none of those provide a means of recouping the cost of entry, they're one big money sink.

as for the PvP, since you brought it up, meh, only people that are going to whine about that are the people that give a shit about it, personally, i couldn't care less. but this is pointless, I'm not gonna change your mind, and your not gonna change mine.

sides, I've been out of work since October, I'll take my chances

You're probably right, I won't change your mind and you won't mine, but would you mind me at least stating my case?
Diablo 3 is not an MMO. If it were, this would all be fine (except the 60$ price tag if it has a subscription model). The reason that it isn't fine is that Diablo isn't an MMO. That's like saying that it's okay for The Elder Scrolls 6 to be completely linear and 4 hours long because CoD did it. The fact that MMOs exists has no place in this argument.
Diablo has a single player option, except you're forced to be online. There are a whole bunch of other reasons why always on DRM is a massive problems, as the following post made me realise:

~snip~

hehe, me and sis just had this discussion to actually.

so yeah, i get why the Diablo fans that have waiting, .... how ever the fuck long its been since Diablo 2 feel like their getting hosed here.

I'm not one of them, in fact, if it wasn't for not having a job for 6 months i would not care about this game at all, you all lose mods, effectively lose the single player in favor of an always online thing, so i can sympathize. to a point.

and as far as I'm concerned, the 'MMO' argument dose have a place here, its basically the direction they took it, though i will admit it was rather dickish of them to just go 'oh by the way ...', its how i intend on treating the game, like a 'one time pay MMO'.

though,(this would be that 'point' mentioned above btw) it's worth noting, we wouldn't be having this conversation if i was employed right now, the market place is quite literally the ONLY reason i want this game, so for me this is a chance at making money, in a shitty economy, in an 'out side the box' way.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

An actual release date? Awesome! I can go back to not caring! Seriously, does anyone even care about Diablo 3 anymore?

 

[AmayaOnnaOtaku]

Collector's Edition..come to Momma!

 

[Lunar Templar]

and as far as I'm concerned, the 'MMO' argument dose have a place here, its basically the direction they took it, though i will admit it was rather dickish of them to just go 'oh by the way ...', its how i intend on treating the game, like a 'one time pay MMO'.

though,(this would be that 'point' mentioned above btw) it's worth noting, we wouldn't be having this conversation if i was employed right now, the market place is quite literally the ONLY reason i want this game, so for me this is a chance at making money, in a shitty economy, in an 'out side the box' way.

Simply slapping an "online-only" tag on a game doesn't qualify it as an MMO. Because then, quite literally, things like Assassin's Creed 2 would MMOs.

This second part of your post is why I'm quoting you though. And I'm doing it to tell you this - don't give yourself false hope. You are going to be one of the millions of people to buy the game. Some of the people will play for the sole reason of getting those items and getting them on the auction house. Anything you loot, there will be no shortage of. You're propping yourself up for failure if you're actually expect to make any money off Diablo 3.

i appreciate the warning, but its unnecessary, I'm fully aware the chances of making a living off this game are slim to none, but at the same time, it still to good an opportunity to pass up, or maybe I'm desperate XD ether way, nothing ventured nothing gaind

 

[GeorgW]

I direct you to the other replies I've made in this thread, this one in particular:

~Huge snip~

still can't see the big issue here. We have LOTS of games you can't play these days because of 'always online DRM' with multi player, that you can't play if the net or they're servers are down. they're called MMOs and people don't complaint about those being 'always online only' despite having to shell out $15 a month just to play the bloody thing. not to mention none of those provide a means of recouping the cost of entry, they're one big money sink.

as for the PvP, since you brought it up, meh, only people that are going to whine about that are the people that give a shit about it, personally, i couldn't care less. but this is pointless, I'm not gonna change your mind, and your not gonna change mine.

sides, I've been out of work since October, I'll take my chances

You're probably right, I won't change your mind and you won't mine, but would you mind me at least stating my case?
Diablo 3 is not an MMO. If it were, this would all be fine (except the 60$ price tag if it has a subscription model). The reason that it isn't fine is that Diablo isn't an MMO. That's like saying that it's okay for The Elder Scrolls 6 to be completely linear and 4 hours long because CoD did it. The fact that MMOs exists has no place in this argument.
Diablo has a single player option, except you're forced to be online. There are a whole bunch of other reasons why always on DRM is a massive problems, as the following post made me realise:

~snip~

hehe, me and sis just had this discussion to actually.

so yeah, i get why the Diablo fans that have waiting, .... how ever the fuck long its been since Diablo 2 feel like their getting hosed here.

I'm not one of them, in fact, if it wasn't for not having a job for 6 months i would not care about this game at all, you all lose mods, effectively lose the single player in favor of an always online thing, so i can sympathize. to a point.

and as far as I'm concerned, the 'MMO' argument dose have a place here, its basically the direction they took it, though i will admit it was rather dickish of them to just go 'oh by the way ...', its how i intend on treating the game, like a 'one time pay MMO'.

though,(this would be that 'point' mentioned above btw) it's worth noting, we wouldn't be having this conversation if i was employed right now, the market place is quite literally the ONLY reason i want this game, so for me this is a chance at making money, in a shitty economy, in an 'out side the box' way.

Well, then, good luck to you! You're gonna need it

 

[Lunar Templar]

i appreciate the warning, but its unnecessary, I'm fully aware the chances of making a living off this game are slim to none, but at the same time, it still to good an opportunity to pass up, or maybe I'm desperate XD ether way, nothing ventured nothing gaind

Well, good luck to you if you are, I suppose. I'm just waiting for the thread where people start going "Well, this making money off of Diablo 3 thing isn't working for me." I can almost guarantee this will happen, by the amount of comments I've seen indicating people really think they're going to rake in cash on this.

hehehehe, yeah XD hopefully I'll be right there mocking every one thinking its a 'get ritch quick' thing and not the more realistic 'i have a little extra in my pocket' it'll be -.- hell, I'd be happy to pull in $100 a month off it, that's my phone and internet bill right there.

Well, then, good luck to you! You're gonna need it

thanks, x.x i know

 

[Lord_Jaroh]

Hopefully the game is fixed before it launches, but I don't see it.