Blizzard Prepares to Sue Over Illegal StarCraft TV Broadcasts
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Agreed.Enkidu88 said:
WHY am i not studying to be on the legal team of a big corporation!? But instead preparing to be the one bashed by them?!(computer programming)
How entitled is blizzard?
Ok ok, I get it that they CAN sue kespa, and I get that they are.
But there's one thing nobody seems to have discussed in this topic.
Do these big companies not just want profits from game sales alone now? Now they want profits from used sales and licensing fees and whatnot. Why can't they just be psyched that their game got as big as it did? Hell, notch appreciates those who bought minecraft. Dejobaan appreciates those who bought "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! A reckless disregard for gravity". I bet even EA appreciates its fanbase. Many developers do. Blizzard apparently doesn't. They clearly just want money, even if the lawsuit has good ground and things going for it. Many game companies treat us consumers like we're criminals with useless DRM that doesn't prevent pirating, attacks on used game sales "Oh shit! They're saving money!", and other kinds of bullshit.
It seems as though these big game companies feel entitled to our money and that they can get away with giving us a dog turd in a bag as long as they get our money. Well, listen up. We as consumers don't owe game publishers or developers shit. We buy games because we like games and because we want to play them. Look, giving money to a publisher isn't necessarily "Supporting the industry". Only giving the money directly to any developer, indie or triple A, is actually supporting the industry. Even then, when you spend the money, you're only really contributing to that company's part of the game industry, not the whole industry. Let's say a big publisher or developer shut down tomorrow. Another developer would probably just take that place.
Another thing. Giving money to the industry is not the ONLY way to support it. You could rally against anti-game laws and stuff, but even the act of playing a game is supporting the game industry, because you might write a review later or tell your friends about it, which will sometimes lead to more sales. Word of mouth is more powerful than you think.
And the last thing. Indie developers don't expect the kind of money from us that big game companies do. Indie developers just appreciate the fact that their game is a hit, and that they'll be known and loved by us, the gamer community. This article just make blizzard look like money entitlement-feeling assholes, regardless of the laws broken.
Ok ok, I get it that they CAN sue kespa, and I get that they are.
But there's one thing nobody seems to have discussed in this topic.
Do these big companies not just want profits from game sales alone now? Now they want profits from used sales and licensing fees and whatnot. Why can't they just be psyched that their game got as big as it did? Hell, notch appreciates those who bought minecraft. Dejobaan appreciates those who bought "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! A reckless disregard for gravity". I bet even EA appreciates its fanbase. Many developers do. Blizzard apparently doesn't. They clearly just want money, even if the lawsuit has good ground and things going for it. Many game companies treat us consumers like we're criminals with useless DRM that doesn't prevent pirating, attacks on used game sales "Oh shit! They're saving money!", and other kinds of bullshit.
It seems as though these big game companies feel entitled to our money and that they can get away with giving us a dog turd in a bag as long as they get our money. Well, listen up. We as consumers don't owe game publishers or developers shit. We buy games because we like games and because we want to play them. Look, giving money to a publisher isn't necessarily "Supporting the industry". Only giving the money directly to any developer, indie or triple A, is actually supporting the industry. Even then, when you spend the money, you're only really contributing to that company's part of the game industry, not the whole industry. Let's say a big publisher or developer shut down tomorrow. Another developer would probably just take that place.
Another thing. Giving money to the industry is not the ONLY way to support it. You could rally against anti-game laws and stuff, but even the act of playing a game is supporting the game industry, because you might write a review later or tell your friends about it, which will sometimes lead to more sales. Word of mouth is more powerful than you think.
And the last thing. Indie developers don't expect the kind of money from us that big game companies do. Indie developers just appreciate the fact that their game is a hit, and that they'll be known and loved by us, the gamer community. This article just make blizzard look like money entitlement-feeling assholes, regardless of the laws broken.
I think most people here are missing the problem here. It like a MLB or NFL game where a section of the league is not under the sanction of the governing agent ie. MBL/NFL. Then it could be open to cheating and other problems that ruins the credibility of the governing agent.
im sorry i honestly hate both companies, the korean company for not getting televised companies and Blizzards cash grab hands suing everyone in the world for whatever reason they can pull out of their top hat. Seriously just sick of Blizzard altogether. and yes im a Valve fanboy who likes Valves practices *gets ready for flame* >.<
That was entirely GW's fault for having Blizzard make a WH game and then canceling it after it was 95% done, Blizzard releasing it with GW's approval under their own name, making money with it, making more money with a sequel, GW deciding they need more money too and hire Blizzard a second time to make a 40K game for them, then deciding that videogames aren't as profitable as selling people ?0.05 hunks of plastic for ?50 and canceled it again, Blizzard again releasing their work in progress under their own name with minor changes, making several more games which all make even more profit, one of them becoming the most profitable one in the world, GW then wondering why people aren't buying their bazzilionth ?75 stupidly unbalanced Marine Sergeant mini and deciding they not only need an MMO but they need exactly the same MMO Blizzard made except with their name on it. And then they learned the hard way that clones of existing games typically don't do well unless they're sequels to that game and backed by ?150.000.000 of marketing. And they hired Mythic do make it, who made 18 games at that point, daoc being the only good one.jono793 said:
Back on topic.
The story so far is that Blizzard made a game, gave broadcasting permissions to use their game in official tournaments to somebody, who then sold them to somebody else for 5 times the original price, continues to make use of them of their own, collects royalties from those they sold them to and occasionally sell more licenses and when Blizzard asks why everybody is paying for their broadcasting rights except them and why they are collecting all that cash, they say it's public domain. Then Blizzard tells them they are raging hypocrites for selling exclusive rights for the game while at the same time claiming it's free and goes to court because they is still ignoring Blizzard and hoarding cash from selling nonexistent licenses.
It's not like they are asking for the entire Korean state treasury either, they're saying "dude, just buy a license like the ones you are selling to everybody else", why are people here still rooting for KeSPA?
This article is heavily skewed in Blizzard's favor. Sadly you should read the article on Joystiq, if you want any sort of objectivity. Blizzard definitely wants money. I bet every company out there would love to have media outlets pay them to advertise their products.
I don't know what the definitive worst thing ever invented by humanity is, but I do know that the best is birth control.Staskala said:
OT: I honestly do not care who wins.
Blizzard is not going to financially suffer from this, and I see no serious ethical dilemma.
For all I care, they can argue pointless litigation about broadcasting the equivalent of a fucking LETS PLAY until they're blue in the face.
What a colossal crock of shit. Seriously, is this how so-called "intellectual property" law is going now? In that case; Hello FIFA, I have documents here which prove unequivocally that my ancestor was the creator of the game known as "football" and, in some regions, "soccer". You have not, in the 200 years since these documents prove the inception and copyrighting of the game, paid any royalties whatsoever to my great great great great great great great grandfather, his estate, or his descendants and I insist that you cease and desist broadcasting tournaments based on the game he invented until such time as you pay me, as his direct ancestor, a million pounds a month.
Oh wait, hold on, no, because the person who invents the game doesn't own the goddamn rights to televised tournaments, the people who finance and run those tournaments do, my bad. Seriously, when are people going to wake up and stop supporting corporations in these despicable grabs for MOAR POWAH.
Oh wait, hold on, no, because the person who invents the game doesn't own the goddamn rights to televised tournaments, the people who finance and run those tournaments do, my bad. Seriously, when are people going to wake up and stop supporting corporations in these despicable grabs for MOAR POWAH.
A question: What wars had trade as a major reason?Therumancer said:
I'd buy the argument that starcraft is akin to soccer, if it wasn't for the frequent patching, balancing, customer support and server hosting that starcraft entails.
Granted: they didn't have to remove lan from starcraft 2, in fact korea pro scene is probably as big a reason as piracy. Starcraft only became akin to soccer, because each time its fatal flaws were fixed.
The game received a patch 10 years after it was finished. To add replay functionality among other things. This was not a small update, it changed the pro-game scene as a whole.
Although I have to admit, it's because I know a pro-gamer personally and through him have met some of the higher-ups in blizzard. Maybe they just did really good pr when I talked with them. But I think, despite being a business that cares about being money, blizzard is made of people with a genuine heart for gaming and having fun with games.
Man! When even when I overheard them talking to each other, all they could talk about was their cool experience last night with this WoW quest or how they liked this new WC3 strategy that progamers were using.