Blizzard Squeezes $88 Million From Private Server Owner
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Woo.. go blizzard.. show the little person who's boss. Seriously... every time I read something with Blizzard or Activision in it, I hate them more and more. Shutting down the server is one thing but sueing an individual for 88million? That's less than fucking BP is getting fined.
Anyway, moral of the story isn't don't fuck with blizzard. The moral is, if you're going to fuck with blizzard, stash all your assets off shore so they can't get dick when you file bankruptcy.
Anyway, moral of the story isn't don't fuck with blizzard. The moral is, if you're going to fuck with blizzard, stash all your assets off shore so they can't get dick when you file bankruptcy.
Agreed. This is just stupidly overkill. Oh well, i guess it's to be expected from blizzard and other big game companiesdfphetteplace said:
Of course, this is all hypothetical because I don't think any Western country would take my stance on punishment, but my idea would be for a simple upgrade to punishments. Things that result in jail time would be more severe, while things that just get you fined, like a speeding ticket, should still just get you fined. Also, literally cutting off people's hands is a little extreme even for a deterent, but the way I see it if that idea were pursued we could at least get a situation where jail was less pleasant than being poor. As it stands in America, and most of the Western world as far as I know, all a hobo needs to do to improve his life is get sent to prison. Normal, law-abiding life would be more appealing if jail actually sucked. Or, you know, if the other option was loss of hand =Pmaxben said:Haha, I've been in far longer argumentsFaceFaceFace said:
My issue with your form of punishment is where does it end?
I mean, if the punishment should not be equal or even related to the crime but only equal to the deterrence value of the punishment itself, then punishment is a stand alone concept from crime.
If this is the case, why don't we make every crime punishable by death?
Its quick, cost little money if done right (the Chinese bullet to the head method comes to mind), and is by far the most deterring punishment out there.
It shouldn't matter if the crime is a theft, a murder, or a speeding ticket because relating the punishment to the crime takes a backseat to deterrence.
It's taking it to the extreme, I know, but law is based on precedence and logic, if your logic is allowed to control laws then we have a problem because then there are no constraints on how much punishment is allowed because there is no such thing as too much punishment (as more punishment increases deterrence).
Though this rant doesn't really work in this situation, apparently Alyson did not show up in Court so the Court just gave Blizzard anything it wanted. So in that case its her fault as she didn't give the court the chance to rule fairly.
It's a fictional amount anyway, but frankly, I agree with Blizzard on this one. If it was a non-profit private server, that would be out of place, but since they were trying to make money with Blizzard's IP/software, that's clearly illegal.
this is scary because I didn't know this was illegal jesus christ that could have been me... wait I'm not that smart to run a server but then im not that stupid either to test blizzard.
That's a hell of a fine. I wonder if she's cheeky enough to try pay it off by running a few more private servers.
Unless she has the 87 million on hand she will never get out from under the debt because of the interest (which can run as high a 27%) and Blizzard pretty much owns her as a virtual slave for the rest of her life.
Garnishment is usually around 80% btw.
So, for the rest of her life she will only make 20% of what she earns and the debt will just keep getting bigger with no hope of ever being paied off. And this is perfectly legal.
Garnishment is usually around 80% btw.
So, for the rest of her life she will only make 20% of what she earns and the debt will just keep getting bigger with no hope of ever being paied off. And this is perfectly legal.
Don't feel too bad for her. She probably doesn't personally owe anything. If she was smart at all the company was incorporated and is its own legal entity. She bankrupts the company and closes it down and the debt just goes away.
If the article is correct, this private server was charging it's players money, which is perfectly within Blizzard's rights to sue into next year (though I've never been a fan of this countries sue happy mentality, this one is pretty funny). I'm glad the owner got slapped with that bill, that's what the gaming community thinks of your "micro-transactions"; I hope you thoroughly enjoy your 88 million dollar micro-transaction.
There are thousands upon thousands of private servers out there, I truly believe this "server" was made an example of because they were charging money, therefore making money off of Blizzard's software / IP.
Interesting story though, gave me a good laugh.
There are thousands upon thousands of private servers out there, I truly believe this "server" was made an example of because they were charging money, therefore making money off of Blizzard's software / IP.
Interesting story though, gave me a good laugh.
Totally agree with Blizzard on this. The fact of the matter is that 88 million is harsh, but it's meant to be. They had to make an example of someone, this person just happened to get the short straw.
With private servers popping up and having users pay for those servers, Blizzard needed to let those types of people know that the C & Ds were not just idle threats. And for those saying "OMG Blizzard is evil" if not them, it would have been some other company. No one, person or company, likes when others make a profit off of something that was stolen from them.
With private servers popping up and having users pay for those servers, Blizzard needed to let those types of people know that the C & Ds were not just idle threats. And for those saying "OMG Blizzard is evil" if not them, it would have been some other company. No one, person or company, likes when others make a profit off of something that was stolen from them.
The thing of it is this, you spend a huge investment in both time, capital, technology and manpower making something really great. Then someone comes along while you are still utilizing this really great thing and decides to use the exact same great thing for their own gain. when it is reduced to nondescript nouns doesn't it sound so much worse than if i say that a person who was looking to make some money used a massive corporation's idea?
I am aware of the run on sentences thank you very much
I am aware of the run on sentences thank you very much
I still don't understand why people like WoW.
The graphics are straight out of 1999, the grind is mind-numbing, it's full of foul-mouthed children, and it costs $15 a month + $X for expansions.
Starcraft II, that I understand. But WoW? I'll never understand the appeal (besides people in denial & refusing to admit they wasted their life/money on it, so they keep playing).
The graphics are straight out of 1999, the grind is mind-numbing, it's full of foul-mouthed children, and it costs $15 a month + $X for expansions.
Starcraft II, that I understand. But WoW? I'll never understand the appeal (besides people in denial & refusing to admit they wasted their life/money on it, so they keep playing).
You break the law and infringe on a world super power, no sympathy here for her. I pay my subscription and it's expensive as hell every month, those who play without pay can go help her repay that debt imo.
Atleast I doubt it's the kind of debt that passes down in the family, that'd be bad lol.
Atleast I doubt it's the kind of debt that passes down in the family, that'd be bad lol.
