Blizzard Starting To Go "Hardcore" On Heart of the Swarm

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Jandau

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Dommyboy said:
Jandau said:
Maybe this means that they'll make the Zerg suck less in the multiplayer department...
They said they're holding all the balancing patches off till the expansion. Pack of bastards.
That would be terrible, both for the players and Blizzard. The game isn't well balanced at the moment and some adjustments need to be made to make it at least somewhat fair. Holding off on all balancing changes until the expansion might result in the game not being viewed favourably in the competitive scene, hurting Blizz's future prospects.

Oh well, I guess I'd better stop trying to play the Zerg and start playing Terran...
 

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Bloodeye said:
Misunderstanding cries? I don't think anyone misunderstood. They just didn't want to buy 3 games to get one games worth of story.

Although I'll forgive them a little if they use the extra time to make the dialogue less painful.
Err...ignoring the fact that you aren't buying three games for one game's worth of story, you're buying one game for one game's worth, it's baffling how people can still be using this as an argument -after- the game has been released and proved this not to be the case, providing a far more in-depth campaign than SC1 while still giving the players many hours of single player time.

Unless, people have the same problem with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 in that regard?
 

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I'm still wondering...
(MAJOR SPOILER)

How is it going to work, now that Kerrigan is supposedly human again.
 

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tony2077 said:
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I know I may not be the first one to say this, but I hope we won't have to wait another 12 years for "Heart of the Swarm". ;) Still, considering that the mechanics of the game and the graphics are taken care, it would be nice to have some semblance of a release date. Then again, maybe they're trying to come up with a storyline which isn't as predictable as "Wings of Liberty"'s... Don't get me wrong, though, I like StarCraft! =D
Remind me again how:

Suddenly switching sides and becoming an ally with your enemy in order to turn Sarah Kerrigan back to a human
Was predictable?
she is still probably part zerg but not crazy as she was before so she'll be able to help raynor well maybe who knows
"Who Knows"... aka it's not predictable at all! Don't contradict yourself (or look up words before using them).

As for the next campaign pack, I'm looking forward to it. I'm kinda glad the Protoss are coming last, feels like they're saving the best for last to me. :D
 

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Its been 12 years, and there just know getting serious on breaking ground on the 2nd part of the game?
 

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Buccura said:
I'm still wondering...
(MAJOR SPOILER)

How is it going to work, now that Kerrigan is supposedly human again.
i thought that
she was still zerg just not being controled by them any more
 

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ArmorArmadillo said:
I'm not sure what they're really hoping to achieve with these. I mean, I'll buy them if they're very cheap, but the Zerg and Protoss campaigns are kind of inevitably bad since both those factions are devoid of good story sort of necessarily, the Zerg being a Hive Mind and the Protoss being a stereotype of vague culture-less aliens. Combine that with the disappointing story of WoL, and things aren't looking good.

And Blizzards "Ready when it's Ready" policy is ringing a bit annoying, since it how can it be that hard to predict the release of something which isn't even a new game?
The Protoss had a awesome backstory , so did the Zerg. It was all in the Starcraft 1 and Starcraft:Broodwar manual and it evolved during the course of those games. The first Zerg campaign was very nicely done despite there being almost only zergs in the briefings.

I disliked the horrible story of WoL. There are people who liked it, sure. But they retconned so much. On the EU forum there is a 34 page thread discussing the bad story, there should be a bigger thread on the US one.
I think they should do away with the branching storyline. A lineair story can be told far better, but I guess it doesn't sell well. Now half of the campaign was filler.

The biggest flaw for me is that Raynor loves Kerrigan. At the end of Broodwar, Kerrigan kills Raynor's best friend Fenix. Raynor cries foul and says to her that he'll kill her one day.
 

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Buccura said:
I'm still wondering...
(MAJOR SPOILER)

How is it going to work, now that Kerrigan is supposedly human again.
Well...she might not necessarily be leading the Swarm, but...thinking about it, she probably will be.

It's kind of annoying for me though, as I would have liked a villainous Zerg, but then I guess, they're going for a 'and all the races rose up against a great evil' route like they did in Warcraft 3.

Which combined with some pretty obvious plot set-ups, things really seem like it's a gear up for World of Starcraft. That could just be me though, it's just I'm finding how the story is playing out almost exactly as it did in WC3. But, they could just be building up to closure rather than an MMO.
 

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GothmogII said:
Which combined with some pretty obvious plot set-ups, things really seem like it's a gear up for World of Starcraft. That could just be me though, it's just I'm finding how the story is playing out almost exactly as it did in WC3. But, they could just be building up to closure rather than an MMO.
Not unless "World of Starcraft" is a very long ways off. Blizzard has already confirmed that the ominous "unannounced MMO" which they're working on is an entirely new franchise.
 

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What do you mean an expansion? The multiplayer is perfect as it is and there's absolutely no reason to fuck around with new units. It will throw everything off balance.
 

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I guess they are probably adding a few units to the Zerg for Heart of the Swarm's campaign mode.
Just as the Wings of Liberty campaign mode had a lot of extra units that the Terrans don't have in multiplayer. (That bugged me, heck, one of the new units (diamantbacks) weren't even included in the multiplayer...)
 

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GothmogII said:
Bloodeye said:
Misunderstanding cries? I don't think anyone misunderstood. They just didn't want to buy 3 games to get one games worth of story.

Although I'll forgive them a little if they use the extra time to make the dialogue less painful.
Err...ignoring the fact that you aren't buying three games for one game's worth of story, you're buying one game for one game's worth, it's baffling how people can still be using this as an argument -after- the game has been released and proved this not to be the case, providing a far more in-depth campaign than SC1 while still giving the players many hours of single player time.

Unless, people have the same problem with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 in that regard?
I wouldn't know about Mass Effect but I have actually played the SC2 single player and to me it felt like the Terran campaign from SC1 with some side missions to pad it out. Not saying I didn't enjoy it just that it seemed a little shallow. Obviously your mileage may vary.

At any rate it was more a comment on it being a little condescending to suggest that the outcry was just because people misunderstood.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Pardo says that each new game will feel like a sequel from a single-player point of view, while from a multiplayer perspective they'll feel like expansions sets.
This means what exactly? That the multiplayer will be expanded, Brood War style? It's difficult to see how they could add more units without them becoming redundant or else throwing the balance way out of whack. The question then is, what CAN they do to the multiplayer which would be worthwhile?
 

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Dommyboy said:
Jandau said:
Maybe this means that they'll make the Zerg suck less in the multiplayer department...
They said they're holding all the balancing patches off till the expansion. Pack of bastards.
Where did you get that? Seems very unlikely that they're going to just leave the game unbalanced for what could be a year.
 

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Thedutchjelle said:
ArmorArmadillo said:
I'm not sure what they're really hoping to achieve with these. I mean, I'll buy them if they're very cheap, but the Zerg and Protoss campaigns are kind of inevitably bad since both those factions are devoid of good story sort of necessarily, the Zerg being a Hive Mind and the Protoss being a stereotype of vague culture-less aliens. Combine that with the disappointing story of WoL, and things aren't looking good.

And Blizzards "Ready when it's Ready" policy is ringing a bit annoying, since it how can it be that hard to predict the release of something which isn't even a new game?
The Protoss had a awesome backstory , so did the Zerg. It was all in the Starcraft 1 and Starcraft:Broodwar manual and it evolved during the course of those games. The first Zerg campaign was very nicely done despite there being almost only zergs in the briefings.

I disliked the horrible story of WoL. There are people who liked it, sure. But they retconned so much. On the EU forum there is a 34 page thread discussing the bad story, there should be a bigger thread on the US one.
I think they should do away with the branching storyline. A lineair story can be told far better, but I guess it doesn't sell well. Now half of the campaign was filler.

The biggest flaw for me is that Raynor loves Kerrigan. At the end of Broodwar, Kerrigan kills Raynor's best friend Fenix. Raynor cries foul and says to her that he'll kill her one day.
I don't think the whole love thing is BAD persay, it could've been shown better, as in he hates her to the ends of the earth, but's also conflicted inside by the fact he loves her as well, because he technically loves Sarah, wheras he hates the Queen of Blades, who's likely a bit mental.

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The thing I didn't like was that they decided to make it so that the zerg are tragic villans now, by saying the dark one corrupted the overmind to put them on their course of destruction, now that the entire universe is at threat, it just seems like an Old god storyline from WoW.
 

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Hopefully the Protoss campaign will be rockcore!

I wonder how different would the Zerg be to the Terrans in comparison to the original SC.
 

Jared

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Looking forward to it! Wings of Liberty was awesome so Heart of the Swarm should be equally as impressive!