Blizzard Surprised by Reaction to Online-Only Diablo 3

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SixWingedAsura

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If I hear the words, "Social Experience" one more time in the context of it being this wonderous and beautiful thing worth defending, I'm going to go on a baby-murdering spree.

That's right. BABIES.

THAT'S how much I hate my beloved games being forced to turn into Farmville so jackasses like Blizzard CEOs can make more and more and more and more (repeated ad-nauseum) money.

Did I mention BABIES?
 

alinos

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Crono1973 said:
Always Online DRM is ok when Blizzard uses it, apparently.
indeed it was my first thought, iv'e seen people who violently kicked and thrashed about Ubisoft games using it. About Spore Using it.

yet Blizzard goes Woo no offline mode. And a bunch of them have bent over and gone "oh blizzard mount me"

Which i guess means Ubisoft's Always on DRM was a great success since no one apparently cares. It's just that there games weren't up to snuff

I still can't see the benefit of this move, it doesn't reduce piracy(might make the initial pirating a little harder) But it will turn some fans sour, especially in conjunction with other things people may or may not take issue with
 

Reshkar

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ManThatYouFear said:
Did he not realize that the gaming community is just full of moaning bastards? seriously as minute effect this will have on anyone (99%(random % FTW) of pc gamers are ALWAYS connected to the internet while playing games, hell most of you people on here moaning now are probably playing a game while browsing this forum)
but you just have to moan and say "lost a sale" who ever says that was not planning on buying it anyway, and minority of those will pirate it when they get rid of the DRM after about 2 days..
Sorry but i think most of you are full of shit.
Apart from the "Sorry but i think most of you are full of sh*t." This is mostly what I had in mind.
 

chuckman1

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Maybe some of us have shitty internet that cuts out every few minutes and sometimes goes out for days. I don't wanna have to wait to play the game and constantly get kicked making this unplayable.
 

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Blizzard Surprised by Reaction to Online-Only Diablo 3
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cgaWolf

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The_ModeRazor said:
Like it could stop piracy - it didn't work with AC 2 either.
How naive. The only way to stop piracy is... well, I'm not sure there is one.
A way to stop piracy would be making a game that people want to play & pay for (eliminate buyers anxiousness & remorse by delivering a solid product), and additionally handing over online options that make me want to go online.

Forcing players online for non-mulitplayer stuff doesn't guarantee a sale, since that sort of stuff is getting hacked within weeks if not days (AC/PoP hacks as well as WoW private servers should have demonstrated that this goes way beyond proof of concept). Losing sales by annoying customers works fairly well however - and diablo 3 is the type of game people have gotten an itchy buyfinger over for 10 years.

No one sat at home saying "imma pirate the crap out of this game", people have been waiting to buy it for a decade anyway - always on doesn't increase sales in that group of people, while it means lost sales from people annoyed that they wont be able to take D3 singleplayer in their summer homes (aka grandmas home for the younger generation :p), vacation, traintravel and whatnot; and that's without factoring those poor souls with shaky internet in. Those people will look for alternatives, and since Dungeon Siege 3 suffered a major episode of gamedesign failure, tons of people are looking towards Torchlight 2.

I have little doubt D3 will be a fun game to play, nor do i doubt it will be successful - i just don't get why they introduce annoying or downright crappy ideas (realworld money AH... the next experiment in combatting shadow economies, because soulbinding didn't work out in WoW? I guess the goldfarming slavehandlers & chinese mafia/prisonsystem are looking forward to this), and then wonder at the public reaction.
 

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I somewhat have the feeling that an offline mode will be possible. Just not made by Blizzard.
"Life always finds a way" ;P
 

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As many others said, I do not support these online only DRM's from other companies and I will not support it from Blizzard. I also don't understand how there are people who are ok with this, since internet connections are not 100% stable.

Also, Diablo is not a freaking MMO, please don't use that to justify always online. I've enjoyed my Diablo 1 and 2 experiences offline thank you very much. I also played alot of D2 online and yet, still enjoy more the offline experience, how about that?

No buy from me if it continues like this, and that sucks, since I was so hyped for it.
 

Sansha

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Isn't the idea of a company to make a product that makes as many people happy as possible?

Disabling offline mode restricts that. Hell, I can play SC2 without an internet connection, why not this?
 

Ken Sapp

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Blizzard being surprised about the reaction to constant online-only requirements tells me that they are out of touch with their customers and don't understand the demographic which the game is meant for. Diablo has always been a mainly single-player game. To intentionally leave out all offline functionality is to ignore the legions of players who just want to play a game. It's not like they haven't managed to build and support games with fully functional offline single-player and online single/multi-player experiences before. As I recall, in Diablo II you could take local single player characters online, but offline characters were not allowed to play with online characters. I wouldn't even care if they decided that offline characters were never allowed to be played online as long as I was able to play without being forced online.

Heck even Steam will let you play in offline mode.
 

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chadachada123 said:
That's what this thread is about, herp. We're discussing why it is or is not appropriate to give Blizzard money for what is argued to be a very stupid DRM scheme.
There's nothing appropriate or inappropriate about it. You're either willing to play on Blizzard's terms or you're not. It's their game and they can do with it what they wish, as they have long done with World of Warcraft despite how people have raged over the years about one change or another that they've made.
 

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Calibretto said:
Could you please expand on your comment because I dont see how my comment is in anyway SHEEP LIKE.
If you are going along the blind fanboy argument that is common amongst escapist forum users then I would like to see how any of those comments were " blind" and not actually stating FACTS based from a certain perspective.
As much as you would like to argue that the perspective that I entail is a " blind Fanboy" one I will say I like ALL GOOD GAMES not just ones made by blizzard and I do not only play Blizzard games. So again I would like you to expand on this " sheep " comment and how you see me in this category.
I dont play WOW I dont like it yet I am not blind to the fact that it is the most popular MMO.
Are you Saying that Blizzard dont make good games?
If thats simply your perspective and ignoring the strong user base of EACH OF THEIR GAMES?!
Is it because I posted an Athene video ? Because I agreed with what he said?
Please explain to me how I fit in to the term sheep.
not to jump into a quote side, but I don't think anyone here says blizzards track record for games is bad overall. Negatives applied, I've played a grand deal of blizzards games and there's nothing wrong with the game play in and of themselves. and while you may be right about the fact that they won't feel the sting lost of non onliners if they don't fix this, it still remains that they WILL be losing people on this. Considering the fact that WoW is apparently taking declines, AND they are a business, the fact they aren't choosing to stay accessable regardless of internet connection seems quite foolish.

And while in one breath I know their games are good, its the fact they are willing to forgo systems which helped make their games so good in the past. I often find myself playing on a laptop in positions of nonexistent internet or incredibly dodgy signals. lately I've had to base my purchases knowing this, so games like Diablo III are effectively closed off to me, and I find myself on my PSP and DS more then my PC between stunts like this and cloud gaming as a whole.

I waited for Chat rooms to be implemented in SCII before I purchased, despite the fact that SCI was essentially my youth. I did it out of principle, because there is no reason to EVER take a step backwards, and that was decidedly minor compared to this. if they intend on sticking their guns to the biggest ball and chain in the last 2 years, then its everyones loss.

As for you being a sheep... not to make a guess or anything, but its the fact you seem to be ignoring the bad trees in the forest. its a sad thing indeed to say a game isn't what you'd expect, only because it skimped on factors its previous brethren had down, or additional features that should be a standard to its genre. But its my opinion if you excuse the game because its core game play rocks, then your gonna get cheated down the line. this kind of thing (always online for a decidedly NOT MMO title) would be fine if the world had a much more powerful net connection, but it really doesn't. it just reeks of... that's what baffles me. I don't know WHAT to call it. WHY would you be willing to shun more potential customers?
 

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This is coming from a company that completely ignored hundreds of thousands of posts wanting appearance slots and the ability to hide ridiculous shoulderpads on peoples own character models.

I'm not surprised. Sadly.

Blizzard can do whatever they want and the blizzard fanboys will defend it.

Judging by this thread though.. maybe. maybe i'm seeing a little hope.

And a lot of clueless blizzard fanboys whom I expected, sat down eager to be milked.

I see half of them as 'fans' who are encouraging a coke junkie musician they like to snort more and more, thinking they're friends/fans and their idol can do no wrong, when in fact they're driving their object of fanboyism to their doom.

Game companies can and do make bad decisions, and its up to the fanbase to let them know.

Blizzards hardcore fanbase is the worst in the industry, for every whine there is a genuine bit of constructive criticism or good idea. You who gnash your teeth and attack the posters here while defending this blatant bad decision are the worst examples of blizzard fanboys, and you are driving the industry in the wrong direction. The direction that does not care about you and tells you to bend over.
 

Talvrae

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Heh dont care about Diablo 3... but anyway just wanted to say it does happen to me to play with my laptop in place where there is no network
 

mirasiel

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Always online only is sort of the deal-breaker for me, same with Assassins creed 2...or any Ubisoft title really.

Shame I was really looking forward to D3, ironically the money will probably just go towards my Old republic sub :)
 

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Chad Brumfield said:
chadachada123 said:
That's what this thread is about, herp. We're discussing why it is or is not appropriate to give Blizzard money for what is argued to be a very stupid DRM scheme.
There's nothing appropriate or inappropriate about it. You're either willing to play on Blizzard's terms or you're not. It's their game and they can do with it what they wish, as they have long done with World of Warcraft despite how people have raged over the years about one change or another that they've made.
...That's exactly my point? I'm not saying that they should be forced to get rid of their crappy system, only that I won't pay into that sort of system, and I question the intelligence of anyone that thinks that it is a smart system (not necessarily the intelligence of people that choose to suck it up and take the abuse, though).
 

castlewise

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The man has something of a point. I could play Starcraft 2 offline for the single player campaign, but I never do. Achievements, chat windows with friends playing WoW, single player custom maps are all gone if you don't log in to SC2

(Hehe, although I guess the custom maps aren't really going to be an issue in Diablo III)