Blizzard's New Cataclysm Video Is Shameless Scenery Porn

[Bobzer77]

I think it's about time WoW started emphasizing new features in it's trailers rather than saying "Look how pretty our engine is!"

Because you know.... it's not anymore.

However their design and atmosphere is top notch, which is why I really want to play Wow.

The grinding and most of the community is why I don't.

 

[ComicsAreWeird]

I think that looks awesome and i dont even like WoW. Impressive.

 

[Sonicron]

Oh, come on! Stop trying to lure me back in, you can't do this to me!

... That W40k MMO really needs to get here, fast. I promised myself I wouldn't play any MMOs until that one hits shelves, but Blizzard are making it damn difficult, and the fact that I can see the boxed copies of WoW, BC and WotLK from my desk isn't helping either!

 

[Cowabungaa]

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When do you finally realise that there is no goddamn argument. I love the game the way it looks right now and I feel no need for graphical improvements in that game, simple. as. that. When do you finally accept that not everyone thinks the way you do?!

What the hell are you going on about other games and me knowing fuck-all about graphics?! What does that have to do with this topic? All I ever said is that I LIKE. THE WAY. WOW. LOOKS. I never said I didn't care about graphical improvements in general, just that I find WoW fine the way it is. And don't tell me that, compared to WoW, Uncharted 2 isn't incredibly impressive, which is what I freakin' said.

Next time, bother to read the contents of someone's post and react to that instead of going on about random bullshit.

Plus it still doesn't figure - why get such a high end GPU when you clearly do not care about graphics? I think someone has mistaken their PC for either a)Their friends PC or b)The PC they would like given the option...

Because *gasp* I might play other games than WoW! Shocking right!

If you want to troll, go do it somewhere else.

However their design and atmosphere is top notch, which is why I really want to play Wow.

The grinding and most of the community is why I don't.

I wouldn't say that WoW has a lot of grinding, even less nowadays thanks to patch 4.0. The questing content in the old world has really improved a lot. Though stay away from Ashenvale...yeah.

 

[IamQ]

This is a nice trailer showcasing the expansion one last time, before it's released to hype up players, and all I see in the comments are debates about the graphics of WoW?

Since when were graphics that important?

 

[Brotherofwill]

...Are you trying to come across as ignorant? If you don't know what EvE is, google it:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Eve+online
If graphics count for very little, why did 3 million AMD 5XXX series GPU's ship within the first few months of release? That certainly doesn't seem like a minority. I think it's more apt to say that WoW players are content with graphics, but the reason for this may not simply be that WoW's graphics are good etc, but more likely they have no other game to benchmark it against due to WoW being all that they play.
Graphics helps with game immersion & are not shallow. And games ARE selling better than they used to (Black ops release, MW2 release, GT5 release). And the Wii holds the sales records for games. Graphics should never be the number one feature, that is ludicrous because gameplay should always come before graphics, so don't twist words - it's that WoW doesn't really see graphics as important in anyway. Have a look at Crysis and the awards it won if you want to see a graphically successful game.

These games are breaking records for fastest selling and biggest launches, not selling the most. The Wii game that's number 1 only is number 1 because it comes with the console, but even so it's hardly a graphically intensive game. It's almost as purely gameplay driven as you can be, almost a tech demo so to say. I'd try to use the Wii as an example now on how lower-res game with good art design sell more units than high-res 'super graphic' games, but that comparison doesn't fly, mostly because the install bases of Wii vs the other 2 are too far apart.

I played Crysis when it came out. It was decent. Graphics were amazing. The game was hyped beyond belief, I doubt it sold more than 2 million. It was a sales dissapointment, atleast when it came out. Wonder why that was the case ;D.

 

[Kneel]

I think it's more apt to say that WoW players are content with graphics, but the reason for this may not simply be that WoW's graphics are good etc, but more likely they have no other game to benchmark it against due to WoW being all that they play.

This one could be construed as insulting. I've played WoW since beta, and I'm more than happy with the graphics - including the updates in each respective patch. It suits the game and the art style perfectly. However, I also play FPS and third person action games and while I'm not a CoD fan, I enjoy Crysis, Left 4 Dead and Arkham Asylum among others. Crysis, especially, is far superior to WoW but it's a different kind of game. We don't need for WoW to look hyper-realistic because the gameplay doesn't demand it.

I really think you're missing the point.

 

[Brotherofwill]

I really think you're missing the point.

I feel you man. Best and most concise response .

 

[Brotherofwill]

That's because the gaming market has changed and is far more varied, with titles not expecting to have lasting sales throughout the lifespan of the console.
Crysis exceeded sales, and how is more than 1 million sales (that's of Feb '08 and I know a bunch of people who bought it after then) not successful??? It actually exceeded sales expectations...Maybe you should take your ludicrous expectations somewhere else because they certainly don't fit into reality.

Very true first sentence.

Hey, I'll take my ludicrous sales expectations somewhere else, I'll expect you to do the same with your ludicrous graphics expectations XD. I said it was an initial dissapointment when it came out, probably because noone could run it.

Speaking of good music:


SOUND THE BATTLE KAZOOS

Wow, I've replayed this like 5 times now. Bitchin'. Nice post.

 

[Cowabungaa]

As I said before "I don't like change" describes your argument through and through. You are simply stuck in your ways and won't accept the fact that WoW's graphics could be improved and instead resort to the straw man of "I like the graphics as they are". Hey, I like Metro 2033, but they still can be improved etc. Any rational customer would want everything to be improved instead of sticking in the past for literally no reason other than nostalgia at best, or that they are scared of improvement.

Has it not sunken in yet?! I don't give a rats ass about improving WoW's graphics! There is no goddamn argument as I've said plenty of times already! WoW conforms to my taste, so I'm happy. Is such a thing really that difficult to understand?! Does such a thing as "taste" even exist in your mind?! Is it really so damn difficult to understand that not everyone is like you?!

And now you are once again assuming something about me, I never said WoW's graphics couldn't be improved, where the hell do you get that from! I just constantly said I don't care, can you not read?!

It's damn hard to stay civil when all you do is basically insult me, assume things about me and barely even read my posts.

 

[Tomas Krystinik]

I honestly gave up on wow a year ago and I know that's not winning me any politics points, but this ad campaign is everywhere. You can't escape it. Every time I try to watch a video on this site I have it forced down my throat again. Sure it's pretty, but you can only watch something so many times before you find yourself reaching for the mute button and staring at the wall until it's over. There is such a thing as too much promotion. And besides, they're not fooling anyone, we all know what wow looks like in game. Cutscenes will never be more than exactly that, separate from the gameplay in every way.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Well if you don't think a game should improve in every aspect when you are giving so much time & cash to it, you are a very gullible customer - simple as that. In no other industry do people never expect an all around improvement in what they are purchasing if they had put in the same fiscal investment you have.
But more relevant is why should the graphics not be improved? You like them as they are, great, but why shouldn't they be improved? Improvement = better, by definition of the word, so you are saying you don't want WoW to improve in certain ways...You have skirted this point every time I have brought it up reverting back to "I lik dem grafiks" which I have never questioned. Why would better graphics not conform to your taste? The two don't logically follow...You've yet to state how better graphics would be problematic for the game as surely it'd just make the game visually more appealing and more immersive; how do you not desire those two traits?? Again, it sounds more like Stewie's "I don't like change!" rather than having stopped, thought over it and gone "you know what, better graphics could make the game better in certain ways...."

Putting one's priorities elsewhere does not mean one is a 'gullible consumer', leave your insults at home thank you very much. No, I don't think better graphics will increase me enjoyment in WoW, not everyone gets immersed in a game the same way you do, not everyone enjoys a game in the same way you do and not everyone cares about the same damn things as you do. When on earth will you start understanding that?!

As for why not, I have explained that plenty of times, John Funk did as well, but you apparently ignore all those things or something. Start reading.

 

[Jimbo1212]

Well if you don't think a game should improve in every aspect when you are giving so much time & cash to it, you are a very gullible customer - simple as that. In no other industry do people never expect an all around improvement in what they are purchasing if they had put in the same fiscal investment you have.
But more relevant is why should the graphics not be improved? You like them as they are, great, but why shouldn't they be improved? Improvement = better, by definition of the word, so you are saying you don't want WoW to improve in certain ways...You have skirted this point every time I have brought it up reverting back to "I lik dem grafiks" which I have never questioned. Why would better graphics not conform to your taste? The two don't logically follow...You've yet to state how better graphics would be problematic for the game as surely it'd just make the game visually more appealing and more immersive; how do you not desire those two traits?? Again, it sounds more like Stewie's "I don't like change!" rather than having stopped, thought over it and gone "you know what, better graphics could make the game better in certain ways...."

Putting one's priorities elsewhere does not mean one is a 'gullible consumer', leave your insults at home thank you very much. No, I don't think better graphics will increase me enjoyment in WoW, not everyone gets immersed in a game the same way you do, not everyone enjoys a game in the same way you do and not everyone cares about the same damn things as you do. When on earth will you start understanding that?!

As for why not, I have explained that plenty of times, John Funk did as well, but you apparently ignore all those things or something. Start reading.

Go play a game with DX 11 eg. Metro 2033 or MoH and then see if you have the same opinion. Graphics do help make a game more immersive. To argue otherwise is simply ridiculous.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Go play a game with DX 11 eg. Metro 2033 or MoH and then see if you have the same opinion. Graphics do help make a game more immersive. To argue otherwise is simply ridiculous.

I'm not arguing otherwise! Where the hell did you get that from? WoW's graphics and especially WoW's art style does a fantastic job of immersing me, more than good enough. Not everyone's the same and is immersed the same way, remember that as well. I put a lot more emphasis on sound myself.