Blue Ray Player in a... XBOX 360?

[The Brewin]

i'd still argue the storage size benefits. Take the new Final Fantasy game, 3 discs? Metal Gear...that'll be another 5 discs for you. Whilst I agree, personally the graphics upgrade is not a deal breaker, im happy the way things are anyway, but its a nice added bonus!

Of course...I doubt sony working with X-Box..(aside from games) the BLU RAY is sadly the only thing we have over them other than the free online capabilities...

 

[Sparrow]

I doubt it. Blu-ray... it's not that revolutionary.

sorry but let's see a dvd do full 1080p, it can't do that on a standard dvd-9, also there's the storage aspect of it

He said revolutionary, not impressive.

And he's right. I don't give a crap about Blu Ray, beacause I'm perfectly happy using my normal DVD player.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

First of all I don't care about FF13 or any game starring angsty 13 year old boys/girls and The Xbox can update a game over 30 seconds top

really? ok let's take one of the burnout paradise updates, which was over 100 megs, first off you CAN'T download 100 megs in 30 seconds, so right there, you're logic and argument fails

there is also the fact that the 360 has a terrible network stack, i'm guessing based on the 95 tcp/ip stack because they don't use the XP stack anymore

the PS3 on the other hand is free to and probly does use the bsd tcp/ip stack which is proven to be better for networks

if you have a 10 meg router, the 360 won't even work properly on a wireless network, it NEEDS the 55 megs or it kills every other connection on it

quit being a dumb fanboy and go learn a bit about what you're talking about

 

[Durahan2]

God I'm seeing all these people saying blah blah blue ray is so much better looking. It's not really that much. And guess what you can only see that small difference is if you own an overpriced oversized television. People seem to miss that part =/.

 

[Avaholic03]

What does it matter if Sony owns the rights to Blu Ray? They license the rights to build blu-ray drives to other companies. They could either (A) license that technology to MS, or more likely (B) MS would buy a blu-ray drive from an existing manufacturer and put it in the Xbox. It's not like they build their own optical drives anyway.

 

[jboking]

I could see it for the next generation of Xbox, but right now, no, there is no xbox with a blu-ray player.

 

[esperandote]

i dont think so, sony makes a big deal about the ps3 being the only one with bluray. but i guess that if microsoft paid sony enough plus more BR discs sales...

 

[TelHybrid]

If they intended for it to be used for games that would be an awful idea.

For one the loading times for a game from a drive connected by USB cabling would be massive. Not to mention people would be pissed off about having to buy an add-on for particular games.

Look at SEGA's history with Mega CD and 32X. Even N64's RAM Expansion was a risk.

The alternative would basically be take all the current 360 consoles off the market and release ones with Blu-Ray, which would then anger their current customer base even more.

If they released an add-on to be used purely for movies like the HD-DVD drive, then fair enough, it could happen, though as Microsoft are trying to push digital distribution via their LIVE download service, I doubt they're going to switch to blu-ray now and give Sony more $.

 

[The Kangaroo]

First of all I don't care about FF13 or any game starring angsty 13 year old boys/girls and The Xbox can update a game over 30 seconds top

really? ok let's take one of the burnout paradise updates, which was over 100 megs, first off you CAN'T download 100 megs in 30 seconds, so right there, you're logic and argument fails

there is also the fact that the 360 has a terrible network stack, i'm guessing based on the 95 tcp/ip stack because they don't use the XP stack anymore

the PS3 on the other hand is free to and probly does use the bsd tcp/ip stack which is proven to be better for networks

if you have a 10 meg router, the 360 won't even work properly on a wireless network, it NEEDS the 55 megs or it kills every other connection on it

quit being a dumb fanboy and go learn a bit about what you're talking about

Really? because that goes against my personal experience and most arguments against the PS3

Yes I'm not an IT fucking expert so I'm a dumb fanboy wow good argument

Oh and by the way I have a 10 meg router and it works much better then my PS3

PS: I don't have Burnout Paradise so I've never had an update take more than thirty seconds

 

[The_Splatterer]

Ok...here goes my opinion on the matter...
Sony aren't THE owners of blu-ray because then the only blu-ray players would be Sony's players right? to make the blu-ray successful, more companies had to be apart of it, which they are, but this is only for the movie side of blu-ray, and i believe Sony has the rights to or have copyrighted the use of blu-ray in a gaming console, atleast i think...

Back to the topic a bit more:
Think for a second....Neither party would want this! a hardware update for the 360 would be silly seeing as it's an old console, at least the oldest of this generation, a hardware update like a blu-ray player just wouldn't seem worth the cost, development, persuading game developers to start doing things for blu-ray too, it's just not worth it, if it was going to happen they would have a easier and more profitable time using a blu-ray system in their next console. Not that Sony would want them doing that. the PS3's biggest wow feature is that it's blu-ray, for the masses, the only difference between PS3 and xbox? dvd is old blu-ray new so blu-ray must be better so PS3 is better cause blu-ray!*, So PS3 wouldn't want to lose it's greatest selling point, the fact that it's the only console to have blu-ray! as for letting Microsoft use blu-rays in the next generation.... pfft. Microsoft are the biggest arseholes going when it comes to this sorta thing, if i was sony i would give the rights to Nintendo aswell just to rub it in the xbox's face.
Oh and yes blu-ray quality is MUCH better when watching movies, but in my opinion there isn't any difference between my xbox version of prototype running through component and my brothers on ps3 through HDMI, which for the more clever of you who could work this out, as a gaming medium blu-ray isn't worth it, for sameish quality at a higher price. so why would microsoft want this?

Well i have rambled on so i'm going to stop now, if your here i'm going to asume you've read all of this so thanks to you, and if you've skipped down to the bottom then your obviously not interested in this topic enough and shouldn't post Thanks!

*(i know this statement isn't entirely true to the intelligents here at the Escapist but i'm trying to be in the mindset of most of the small brained magpies in the rest of the world)*

 

[The Kangaroo]

I personally hope that it doesn't come out on the 360 because what happened to the Playstation will happen to the Xbox, publishers will start putting graphics over gameplay and that's bad enough already

 

[The Kangaroo]

Ok...here goes my opinion on the matter...
Sony aren't THE owners of blu-ray because then the only blu-ray players would be Sony's players right? to make the blu-ray successful, more companies had to be apart of it, which they are, but this is only for the movie side of blu-ray, and i believe Sony has the rights to or have copyrighted the use of blu-ray in a gaming console, atleast i think...

Back to the topic a bit more:
Think for a second....Neither party would want this! a hardware update for the 360 would be silly seeing as it's an old console, at least the oldest of this generation, a hardware update like a blu-ray player just wouldn't seem worth the cost, development, persuading game developers to start doing things for blu-ray too, it's just not worth it, if it was going to happen they would have a easier and more profitable time using a blu-ray system in their next console. Not that Sony would want them doing that. the PS3's biggest wow feature is that it's blu-ray, for the masses, the only difference between PS3 and xbox? dvd is old blu-ray new so blu-ray must be better so PS3 is better cause blu-ray!*, So PS3 wouldn't want to lose it's greatest selling point, the fact that it's the only console to have blu-ray! as for letting Microsoft use blu-rays in the next generation.... pfft. Microsoft are the biggest arseholes going when it comes to this sorta thing, if i was sony i would give the rights to Nintendo aswell just to rub it in the xbox's face.
Oh and yes blu-ray quality is MUCH better when watching movies, but in my opinion there isn't any difference between my xbox version of prototype running through component and my brothers on ps3 through HDMI, which for the more clever of you who could work this out, as a gaming medium blu-ray isn't worth it, for sameish quality at a higher price. so why would microsoft want this?

Well i have rambled on so i'm going to stop now, if your here i'm going to asume you've read all of this so thanks to you, and if you've skipped down to the bottom then your obviously not interested in this topic enough and shouldn't post Thanks!

*(i know this statement isn't entirely true to the intelligents here at the Escapist but i'm trying to be in the mindset of most of the small brained magpies in the rest of the world)*

Well said and surprisingly true

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Microsoft said they might incorporate it as an add-on for a while now. It's all speculation at this point, but there's no reason why not.

 

[Deadarm]

What 360 player would want it anyhow its not like it would help the "RED RING OF DEATH" then again that almost never happens if you take care of your system and don't spill some form of beverage all over it every 2 days. Also its not a reccomended idea to let relatives near it.

 

[internetzealot1]

All Blu-Ray does is keep you from having to switch disks when playing large games....and when's the last time you did that?

 

[Legion]

I doubt it. Blu-ray... it's not that revolutionary.

sorry but let's see a dvd do full 1080p, it can't do that on a standard dvd-9, also there's the storage aspect of it

Storage, which to be perfectly honest, is not needed. An hour and a half movie can fit perfectly well onto a normal DVD and the high definition only matters if you have the fancy TV to go with it.

 

[kronoset]

here's a marketing strategy for Sony (Coming from somebody who owned a PS2 for 9 years--it never broke--and now owns a 360)--Stop adding expensive novelties to your damn consoles that a minute audience actually cares about. I'll bet that if Sony ran a poll asking what their consumers wanted in a console: A. A shiny blu-ray player B. Motion detecting technology C. A cheaper price--they'd get overwhelming amounts of "C", but of course they'd never run a pole. The 360 can be obtained for $170 w/ a HD. The fact that the PS3 is finally getting dropped to an even $300 is absurd. Maybe I'll pick one up when it hits $200.

 

[Jurassic Rob]

Sounds like a load of old bollocks to me!

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Really? because that goes against my personal experience and most arguments against the PS3

Yes I'm not an IT fucking expert so I'm a dumb fanboy wow good argument

Oh and by the way I have a 10 meg router and it works much better then my PS3

PS: I don't have Burnout Paradise so I've never had an update take more than thirty seconds

ok so i am right, you've gotten all your info from a planetary object and using the fanboy tag was very apt

you obviously have no clue what you are actually talking about and are using the aforementioned planetary object to spout out your arguments

I doubt it. Blu-ray... it's not that revolutionary.

sorry but let's see a dvd do full 1080p, it can't do that on a standard dvd-9, also there's the storage aspect of it

Storage, which to be perfectly honest, is not needed. An hour and a half movie can fit perfectly well onto a normal DVD and the high definition only matters if you have the fancy TV to go with it.

not at 1080p it can't or even anything above 480p, most of the time to fit on a dvd-9 most movies have to be compressed a bit and therefore a loss in quality

Back to the topic a bit more:
Think for a second....Neither party would want this! a hardware update for the 360 would be silly seeing as it's an old console, at least the oldest of this generation, a hardware update like a blu-ray player just wouldn't seem worth the cost, development, persuading game developers to start doing things for blu-ray too, it's just not worth it, if it was going to happen they would have a easier and more profitable time using a blu-ray system in their next console. Not that Sony would want them doing that. the PS3's biggest wow feature is that it's blu-ray, for the masses, the only difference between PS3 and xbox? dvd is old blu-ray new so blu-ray must be better so PS3 is better cause blu-ray!*, So PS3 wouldn't want to lose it's greatest selling point, the fact that it's the only console to have blu-ray! as for letting Microsoft use blu-rays in the next generation.... pfft. Microsoft are the biggest arseholes going when it comes to this sorta thing, if i was sony i would give the rights to Nintendo aswell just to rub it in the xbox's face.
Oh and yes blu-ray quality is MUCH better when watching movies, but in my opinion there isn't any difference between my xbox version of prototype running through component and my brothers on ps3 through HDMI, which for the more clever of you who could work this out, as a gaming medium blu-ray isn't worth it, for sameish quality at a higher price. so why would microsoft want this?

actually there's a few things wrong with that

1 you don't have to code any differently for blu-ray, it's just a storage medium. in fact you will probly have to code less cause you don't have to worry about the size and/or compression

2 using blu-ray allows the developer to have more stuff, project gotham racing was going to feature dynamic weather and lighting effects, aka different weather and changing daylight, however they couldn't do that cause of the size limits of the dvd disc that the 360 uses

3 as for games looking better that's the coders' fault, they can make them look the same but they choose not to cause they want the easy way out.

4 there can be a different in how they look depends a lot on the amount of compression used compared to the movies