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Draconalis

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HyenaThePirate said:
Sub par doesn't mean bad though :D
It DOES mean below average though.

But yeah, from my very first post, I said it wasn't terrible. It just wasn't good either.
 

omegawyrm

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Yeah, Sucker Punch was awesome.

I can feel a thesis percolating just out of reach that would link the public's dislike of Sucker Punch with the dislike of Metroid: Other M...
 

wooty

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Even though I'm a fan of anime, which most of the series' I watch involve females in "action" type roles and kicking ass with whatever weapons take their fancy, I didnt like Sucker Punch either. Dont get me wrong, I prefer female action stars over male ones, but it seems that the rest of the world do it better than Hollywood.

Cases in point, GoGo Yubari in Kill Bill, any movie with Zhang Ziyi, Michelle Yeoh ect. Even in anime, though the characters arent real, they still always portray the female as the tough fighters and action stars, while the males are usually either there to be protected or just out to grope boobs......which if my experiences of real lfe have taught me, is closer to the truth than is comfortable.
 

Mangue Surfer

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Sucker Punch is so bad. It was so pretentious but at same time, so stupid. I left the movie in the middle and I was not the only one.
 

camazotz

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sucker punch failed because it was shit, plain and simple.

Proof zach snyder should stick to adapting other peoples ideas rather than expressing his own.

"If you dont stand for anything, you'll fall for everything"

Worst line in a movie this year, it dosent even mean anything, its just written to sound profound and exemplafies the entire reason why this movie is garbage.
It means that if you don't take a stand for yourself, in absence of that you'll just accept whatever people offer you instead.

Its utter crap taken from some lousy self help book and desperately trying to sound profound.
I dont always take a stand for myself, but I dont just accept what people offer me either, human beings dont work that way, it just seems a very broad generalisation about apathy.
Only an utter moron would find sucker punch profound or meaningful, it isnt it whole argument seemed to boil down to 'you have the power inside you to change things' I could have got that from an epsiode of oprah.
Nah, sucker punch is what you get when people who think themselves smart get to wank their psuedo intellectual crap over the screen, the film simply does not work on that level. It looks pretty, it tries to be clever but it fails miserably.


Sucker punch deseerves to be forgotten!
I was just pointing out that the meaning of the sentence was fairly simple and clear. Whether you consider it meaningful or not is something else entirely.

Also, why be insulting to those who did like the movie? I felt the film had an interesting and apparently too subtle message about the victim/victimize relationship that some people find themselves in, and the ways that some victims deal with their helplessness. I can understand not liking the movie, but insulting those who did find interesting depth and context in it just because you didn't is rude. (and yes I know welcome to the internet and all that. But I'm not going to not call you out just because its your prerogative to be insulting)
The film is an idiotic mish mash of simple minded platitudes only an idiot couldent see through. Thankfully most audiences 'got' sucker punch and stayed away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzfwDkwUGnM

This review nails sucker punch perfectly.

Sucker punch is not subtle.
Sucker punch is not clever.
Sucker punch is not feminist.
Sucker punch is not a good movie.

End of story.
My, your cup runneth over, there. But to address your points (which interestingly are not points I made, you appear to be arguing about the matter without actually having a conversation with me specifically or my actual views on the movie):

1. Sucker Punch was not subtle. Damn straight, that's one of the features I liked about it. However, the intent behind the over-the-top sequences was obviously too subtle for most people. So in that respect, the film failed. Actually....I think it failed because it wasn't subtle at all; it made a lot of people (all men, I've noticed) a bit too uncomfortable.
2. Sucker Punch was not clever. Not in the least, if anything I'd say it was weirdly surreal and noncomformist; it didn't have to spell it out in plain english for the simple folk. Or maybe it did, and that's why it failed.
3. Sucker Punch is not feminist. It's about men, and the terrible stuff we can do to women, in a dream-like mythologized series of events. It's about the ways we make them victims. There's a difference.
4. YMMV on that one. I am impressed at your inability to realize that the world does not conform to your narrow little corner of reality.

Bottom line: I am totally cool with you finding Sucker Punch to be a load of crap. But attacking other people for liking it? Not cool. Just...well, someday you'll grow up and learn a few things, maybe. Like how to be a halfway decent human being with the ability to engage in intelligent discourse. Which is a much better skill than your current ability to tick people off over your pompous egocentricity. Jeez.
 

camazotz

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Ah, now I just feel bad for arguing with you, Bat. You're just being inflammatory, which is true to your nature judging from your other posts, and you have a right to your opinion that anyone who liked Sucker Punch is an idiot....it's just who you are, and the world needs highly opinionated people like you (even if you are wrong).
 

Dom T

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I love Sucker Punch/Scott Pilgim and bought them as soon as they were released on blu ray, but will NOT go to the cinema to see them (or any other film) because the experience is so unenjoyable. Do the movie studios take in to account blu ray/dvd sales when determining success or failure or is it just box office takings?

Bob it would be great if you do a video about how the studios fit DVD/blu rays sales into their business models!