Borderlands 2 "Girlfriend Mode" Helps Noobs Win

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Tianelm

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
It's like the part of Risen 2 where you make you female companion work in the kitchen
In order to steal supplies from under the cook's nose, while the main character is subjected to being the cook's errand boy (they're both working for him, just in different ways), because they're completely broke and need the gold. And you don't force her, you have to convince her to go along with your plan - and at the end you give her half the gold from the quest reward and it disappears from the game, into her pocket one would think.

Besides which, speaking as a male chef, I don't see that working in a kitchen is necessarily degrading, depending on the context obviously, but certainly not in this instance.
 

Mauso88

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A current gen game is easily accessable to non-gamers? When did this happen? Let's hope it teaches BASIC hand-eye co-ordination too.
 

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The only thing that upsets me about this is that they said the Mecromancer will be out 2~ months after release. I've generally lost interest in a game by then, but I REALLY want to play as her. I mean, she is the only character that I have more than a passing interest in.
 

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I can't wait to check out this class on release. It's gonna add a new whole new playthrough to the game. That said, my only problem is that having such a class is good, but no as extra add-on DLC. Why not make such a class available on release rather than DLC 60 days later. I can't help but feel that if you are making a character class to be released after launch, it should be a class that has skills that are harder to be used or make the game more difficult.

Also, who fuckin' cares what it's called. For every girl gamer there are 50 clueless girlfriends. My girlfriend is clueless about games, bless her hot little heart. Did anyone stop to think that this wasn't directed at girl gamers when it was said? Clearly it's not as it makes the game easier rather than harder. But why even think about it when we can just all be offended right now.
 

TheLazyGeek

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What "Girlfriend Mode?" I don't see--oh OH, you mean the "Best Friend Forever" skill tree! Oh, okay, see, because it's called "Girlfriend Mode" in the title, I thought that's what it was actually called and that it was a new difficulty setting or something. But as it turns out, that's just what that one guy calls it! Man, I hope no one else get's as easily confused as I did and starts calling it that because I would hate to see this blow up into something way more than what it actually is.
 

ThePS1Fan

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Wait, wait, wait. So what they're doing is essentially selling the easy mode to the game as DLC? Huh? I get the whole class DLC and think it's a cool idea but they're marketing this as the way to play if you don't quite know what your doing.
DVS BSTrD said:
If you can't aim a pistol you shouldn't be playing Borderlands. Period.
Oh yeah and remember to not try new things you aren't naturally good and develop new skills. That would be bad. Just play Angry Birds forever and don't get into gaming. And if you insist on getting into gaming make sure you start with a game I don't play so you don't happen to interfere with my experience in one of well over a hundred online games I'll play.
 

Easton Dark

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ThePS1Fan said:
Oh yeah and remember to not try new things you aren't naturally good and develop new skills. That would be bad.
Playing Borderlands with easy aim mode on isn't developing new skills. It's playing on auto pilot.

Baresark said:
Also, who fuckin' cares what it's called. For every girl gamer there are 50 clueless girlfriends. My girlfriend is clueless about games, bless her hot little heart. Did anyone stop to think that this wasn't directed at girl gamers when it was said? Clearly it's not as it makes the game easier rather than harder. But why even think about it when we can just all be offended right now.
Hey, look, stereotypes. We can all learn a little more about ourselves in these kinds of threads, can't we.
 

ThePS1Fan

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Easton Dark said:
Playing Borderlands with easy aim mode on isn't developing new skills. It's playing on auto pilot.
Meh, everyone starts somewhere. And there will be people who jump straight into the regular classes and learn that way, and people who start easy and build up. It's whatever they want to do. It's only if they learn the ropes and still stick with their auto pilot just because they can, then I could see it creating a problem.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
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DVS BSTrD said:
NightHawk21 said:
I think this is a cool idea. Maybe not how I would've implemented it since that leaves 4 characters that the other person can't really choose, but I like that they're considering everyone playing.

DVS BSTrD said:
If you can't aim a pistol you shouldn't be playing FPS. Period.
Get your fukin elitism out of here. You couldn't aim a gun in an FPS at one point too.
Learning to shot is what ARCADE games are for, or were you never dropped of at a boardwalk as a child?
Firstly, not everyone wants to waste quarters on those freaking Light-gun games.

Second, playing a Console or PC FPS is not the same as a Light-gun game, which is the only shooting game I can think of you refering to.

Thridly... hrmmmm... *insert joke comment about being left on a boardwalk as a child*
If you can't point at something using a joy/analogue stick and if you've never played in an arcade, then you're not a real gamer.

And you never attended a boardwalk birthday party? I pity you.
But I was born after arcade's hit their hey-day and I suck with joysticks because I grew up using PC game controls.

Also, boardwalk birthday parties suck, the sea is terrifying and full of jellyfish, why did someone decide to put all the fun right next to that horror.
 

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Phasmal said:
Wow that's a really fucking stupid thing to say.
Still, they've distanced themselves from the (stupid) comments, so there's that.
Making games accessable- good.
Foot in mouth- bad.
I think, as some people have stated here, the concept of what her skill tree is sounds most excellent. Their choice of words, as you've said - "Foot in mouth- bad", and I agree. I know, by statisical probability, that there's at least one woman who plays games on this planet better than I can and is at a date-able age. [sarcasm]The problem being...I have not found her and asked her out, yet.[/sarcasm] Still, would it remedy the situation any if they went "Girlfriend/Boyfriend Mode"?

I'm still unsold on the game, but I liked the first one and will probably pick it up at some point but I dunno if I will bother with the DLC.
If The Secret Armory of General Knoxx is anything to go by, their DLC will be good, if not great. Just my opinion, however.

`Well that was some word vomit`.
............Is that anything like bad alphabet soup? That's the only thing I could picture when I read that.
 

BoredWalker

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I'm going to be completely honest: this is a horrible idea. I can understand and appreciate the intents and purposes behind this, but the "assistance" thing should be presented as an option when creating a new character (sort of like Terraria's soft-, medium-, and hard- core presets), and be available to all characters, not a skill tree.

Note: the following statements are largely predictive based on current knowledge, and should not be taken as pure fact.

Firstly, it's gimping the customization options of a character that will be DLC; people who don't want the "abilities for retards" or "abilities for tryhards" (if that gets made) will be stuck with one (or two) upgrade tree(s), which goes against the presumed purpose (variety of gameplay styles) of having multiple trees in the first place.

Secondly, the unskilled player will be limited to a single upgrade track of a single character, and won't, due to afformentioned skill limitations, be able to try out most of the game's variety that it sells itself on.

Thirdly, I just can't see how a skill tree that gives assistive advantages to unskilled players would work. Isn't the entire basis of a skill tree that you unlock progressively more powerful abilities as you play? That would mean that the new player starts out with little to no assistance at the game's start -when they would need it the most- and would get more assistance as they get better at the game, culminating in them getting the most assistance when it's least necessary.
 

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Gearbox reveals aim assist skill and then proceeds to shoot themselves in the foot.

At least they had the common sense to NOT name it the girlfriend skill tree in the game itself.
 

Nesrie

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It was a a stupid thing to say. Is it the end of the world? No. People need to stop backing this sexist remark, tell him to think twice before opening his mouth, and give non-gamer gameplay options a name that doesn't signal out one sex.
 

Awexsome

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Sounds like a good idea to try to help those that don't have much experience with FPS games. After all Borderlands from what I've heard is one of the best co-op games out there for the 360.

As the quote... No, obviously the entire mode isn't built with a sexist mindset and yes, obviously, the quote was a terrible choice of words and should have been phrased better to avoid making it sound sexist.
 

cgmetallica1981

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"Girlfriend Mode", making bullets home in on your target, it's perfect. Hilarious, and the fact that everybody is getting angry over a joke makes it even more funny.
 

Lilani

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Phasmal said:
Wow that's a really fucking stupid thing to say.
Still, they've distanced themselves from the (stupid) comments, so there's that.
Making games accessable- good.
Foot in mouth- bad.
Yeah, the intention here is (more or less) good, but his wording of it was very poor. And with how casually he said it, I have a feeling that wasn't just an on-the-fly description. I feel like that's a term that he's used to describe it before, which paints a very bad picture of both him and the development team.

I mean, there were so many ways he could have worded it. And with how much sexism has been a topic in the video games community, you'd think he'd have caught a little of it at some point and chose to use a different phrase to describe it. Even if it was geared toward the girlfriends of male gamers (which is a valid market, mind), he could have presented it as a general introduction mode to friends and loved-ones rather than pissing in the face of every girl or girlfriend who may or may not already play games. So either he's just been living under a rock for the last three months, or his use of the term is so casual for him it didn't even occur to him that others might take umbrage. Which at best is...unsettling. And at worst it makes me want to march straight up to him, kick him in the balls with the pointiest pair of shoes I have, and ask him to say it again [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPHuE5pDlEs] to my face.

"For a lack of a better term." My fucking God. There are plenty of other terms, he just didn't bother to use any of them.