Boy Scouts Accepting Gays Now
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I was in Cubs as a kid, the junior version of the Scouts, and I - like many others - left because of the bullying and violence.Vuliev said:
What you're touting as leadership experience seems to translate for many young men as power over those weaker. Whenever there was some crossover exercise with the older and larger Scouts, they'd beat the crap out of us. Now I'm not saying that this is the case for everyone, but certainly everyone I know who has joined the organisation at the various age brackets has experienced harassment and some degree of violence. They (and I) left not because it was doing nothing for us but because it was a fucking miserable experience. Giving the average teenage boy power over smaller children is just begging for trouble.
Now, I don't know if all boy scouts are gay, 'cos they can probably tie the knot in like 50 different ways.Fuzzed said:
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/well, apart from the last two posts on page one
1. About time. After all, the founder was and many of the adult supervisors are (or at least were, when I was in and eventually decided to quit scouts) horrendous paedos and/or in a position to bring back copious souvenirs from Narnia, so why have one rule for them and another for the kids?
And really, when it's so much of a sausagefest in many situations, what exactly did they expect?
2. There have always been female supervisors/leaders in scouts as far as I'm aware, and they did start admitting girls in the late 90s as far as I'm aware. It was just never a popular choice (in terms of not many girls/women bothered with it; the actual scouts didn't seem too bothered either way, as it never really felt like a "boys' club" just a kids club that happened to be a bit short on female company)
3. The same people will sell "you" (I presume the question asker is American) mint cookies when all the girls join the scouts as sell the rest of the world mint cookies: the supermarket.
Srsly door to door cookie sales just aren't a thing anywhere else. Not enough of a trust relationship for a start, and in any case we expect our local charitably-minded kids club bake sale to involve things they've actually made themselves, rather than pre-packaged in a factory as GSC's appear to be nowadays.
/well, apart from the last two posts on page one
1. About time. After all, the founder was and many of the adult supervisors are (or at least were, when I was in and eventually decided to quit scouts) horrendous paedos and/or in a position to bring back copious souvenirs from Narnia, so why have one rule for them and another for the kids?
And really, when it's so much of a sausagefest in many situations, what exactly did they expect?
2. There have always been female supervisors/leaders in scouts as far as I'm aware, and they did start admitting girls in the late 90s as far as I'm aware. It was just never a popular choice (in terms of not many girls/women bothered with it; the actual scouts didn't seem too bothered either way, as it never really felt like a "boys' club" just a kids club that happened to be a bit short on female company)
3. The same people will sell "you" (I presume the question asker is American) mint cookies when all the girls join the scouts as sell the rest of the world mint cookies: the supermarket.
Srsly door to door cookie sales just aren't a thing anywhere else. Not enough of a trust relationship for a start, and in any case we expect our local charitably-minded kids club bake sale to involve things they've actually made themselves, rather than pre-packaged in a factory as GSC's appear to be nowadays.
Huh.... I was both a scout and an Atheist for a good two years, never was a problem. Although I do live in England where this kind of thing isn't such big deal so... /shrugGennadios said:
OT: Why was this not already a thing? This kind of news just makes me a little bit sad that it has taken so long.... But yay for it being fixed now and all that marlarky!
About fucking time a state funded organisation stopped discriminating based on sexual orientation. I mean it is bad enough with private clubs but they get money from the government. They letting irreligious people in too?
I think it's the other way around - parents afraid that the gays will catch their precious young kids.SinisterGehe said:
Good job everyone. To be honest I didn't know that they weren't allowed in the boyscouts. At least that's rectified now.
It's about damn time. That was one of the things that always annoyed the hell out of me when I was in scouts.
The BSA's close mindedness was one of the main reasons I started to lose interest with scouting after I turned 18.
It has been a very homophobic organization for years. I remember back when I was a kid I would hear stories of Scoutmasters who had come out as gay and then were forced to quit(some in my district even) because of parents freaking out that their kids might get molested.VoidWanderer said:
The BSA's close mindedness was one of the main reasons I started to lose interest with scouting after I turned 18.
It's a private club that accepts public money. Also, they did decide who can and cannot join.Xan Krieger said:
Still no fucking atheists allowed. But yeah, fuck them, go Woodcraft motherfuckers, that's what I did as a kid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodcraft_Folk
That said it changed for when my sister did it because there were different people running it and at her camps the parents just liked to go off and smoke a shitload of weed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodcraft_Folk
That said it changed for when my sister did it because there were different people running it and at her camps the parents just liked to go off and smoke a shitload of weed.
Nah it was horrible communication on your part. It wasn't even a stretch to infer that from what you said. It's okay to apologize for it and clarify, it doesn't always have to be the other person's fault. Misinterpretation is not a strawman, this word does not mean what you think it means. Stop.Katatori-kun said:
Take cove! Fire will be raining from the heavens and the gays will fornicate in the streets without any protection!