dathwampeer said:
migo said:
Here's what you said, since again you lack the attention span to remember even your own argument:
[snip]
The bolded part shows you're clearly talking about holding the SMART button the whole time to do everything. The underlined part shows you had absolutely no understanding of how the game works anyway.
That was my bad simply on a lack of explanation. The point I was making was that if you were running and going to say slide to cover, but quickly see an enemy to your left, on higher ground.
You instinctively look to him to shoot. As you do you vault over the obstacle you were trying to take cover behind.
Admittedly I explained what I meant poorly. But nothing in that should have suggested that I thought you were always in smart mode.
That part I bolded certainly does - you wouldn't automatically vault if you weren't holding it down the hold time, you move around normally as with any FPS, and if you want to slide, look down and press SMART, let go and keep moving, then when you look up because you only pressed SMART temporarily nothing out of the ordinary happens. Normal, logical play of the game for any person used to an FPS wouldn't result in what you were suggesting.
Even so my next point should pretty much have cleared up any discrepancies in that area.
Whilst holding the free running key you just look at were you want to go and the game does it for you.
Simply saying
whilst should have indicated to you that I know you do not hold the button down all the time.
This entire argument has simply been about semantics and misunderstood points.
While can mean several things, and certainly independent of anything else you could make that argument, but in the context of what else you said it doesn't imply what you're saying now.
I took what you said to mean something it didn't. You did the same to me. The way you worded your argument made it sound like you thought you pressed the smart button when required. Kind of like an action key.
You even said.
migo said:
dathwampeer said:
Point 3) I highlighted something you either missed or overlooked because it voids your argument.
That's where your mistake is, you don't hold the free running key.
I wasn't the only person to take it's meaning the way I did.
The only difference is that
now I will admit that. You on the other hand won't.
Emphasis on now - you were trying to argue that I didn't even watch the video I posted, that's quite the opposite - I'd watched several before selecting that one as it was on youtube and not the same kind of bandwidth hog as other sites, and as a result of having watched more of them I had a lot more context to work with.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IResembleThatRemark - except you weren't doing it as a joke.
If you're going to be making claims about how smart you are with English you should at least have the brains to do a quick proof reading to make sure you're not just proving the point of someone who says your ability is lacking. Hell, if you're going to claim that nowhere did you say anything of the sort (regardless of specific context), you should go back and make sure you actually didn't.
No it wasn't a joke. I just missed 3 letters off of a word. It's hardly proof I'm illiterate.
Not illiterate, no, but it's counter-proof to your claim that English is your language. It's the kind of mistake an ESL student would make.
I was retaliating to you mocking the English education system. It is much better than America's. And I passed with flying colours. Just because I choose to write how I speak (for the internet) doesn't really take anything away from that.
If you confuse gerunds with verbs in speech that certainly does take away from the flying colours, and making a comparison to the American school system, particularly with a jab at the use of Z doesn't strengthen your point at all, in fact it makes it look very, very, weak. Anyone with half a brain and an understanding of English knows that American English uses different orthography from British English and therefore using Z instead of S isn't incorrect in the least. A further interesting tidbit is American English as it is spoken is much closer to traditional English and it's British English that has moved further afield - Shakespeare's plays would sound more familiar to an American than a Brit if they were to go back in time, so there's really no basis at all for your attempt to prop your self up by denigrating the American school system.
I know full well you're not supposed to begin a sentence with a conjunction (like I just did and am about to do again). But why shouldn't I, when what I'm writing is not going to be used in any official manner.
That's fine, but you don't go and brag about how good you are with English and then have an egg on your face because you make a mistake a foreigner would make.
I write how I want things to be read. If I was to use grammatically correct, fully proofed language for every pseudo debate I enter. I'd be here for eternity.
For your final (bolded) argument. I will take fault on poor explanation. But that was only because I assumed what I was saying would make sense without in-depth explanation and a giant war on the semantics of a video was not really on the cards.
The only reason an argument came out is because of how defensively you reacted. Not that I really have a problem with it, I can take as well as I can give, but if you are just saying something off hand and don't want to get into a heated argument about it, just clarify right off the bat instead of accusing the other person of not having watched the video, or whatever else it may be. And even at this point with your latest clarification I'm not seeing anything different from what I inferred the first time around.
