Brink No Girls Allowed!!!!
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Pretty much, it can really break the balance and feel of the game and you see all of the most competitive in some games playing as the female avatar with the best weapon, because it gives a noticeable advantage to them.gxs said:
Edit: your broken quoting seems to be contagious
I've been saying this for years. Bungie and Microsoft are SEXIST for not having the option to play a female masterchief in halo. I smell a class action lawsuit...
Ok, I got several replies, so I'm gonna show you what a heavy looks like in Brink. Click on this link and see how heavy the heavies actually are, and make that look normal on a woman without the developers getting flak for it.
http://brinkthegame.com/features/customization/
http://brinkthegame.com/features/customization/
It's simply budget based, i mean a game that sells itself over the customisation isn't going to ruin its chances by trying to include both genders but end up destroying its budget along the way trying to make the girls look and move differently to the guys.
Now a sequel however...
Now a sequel however...
Oh my gods, they're being so sexist!
Geez, really? I understand that it is nice to have both sexs as an option in character customization. And that going with more clothes over making another gender does seem pretty weird. But considering how much movement that the characters undergo in the game (this game is putting itself forward as a RPS-Parkour hybrid), that would mean that they would have to create 3 new body types (or else gets more complaints about how "they are favoring men") which would take alot more work then putting in clothes. And none of us are the people making the game so we don't know if their claimed reasons for leaving out females as a playable character are legit or not. Maybe they can't afford to put them in. I mean it's not like every other game out there includes both male and female characters.
It would be nice if they included females in, but sometimes you just got to roll with what you got. Of course this is coming from a dude, so maybe my opinion isn't as important...
Geez, really? I understand that it is nice to have both sexs as an option in character customization. And that going with more clothes over making another gender does seem pretty weird. But considering how much movement that the characters undergo in the game (this game is putting itself forward as a RPS-Parkour hybrid), that would mean that they would have to create 3 new body types (or else gets more complaints about how "they are favoring men") which would take alot more work then putting in clothes. And none of us are the people making the game so we don't know if their claimed reasons for leaving out females as a playable character are legit or not. Maybe they can't afford to put them in. I mean it's not like every other game out there includes both male and female characters.
It would be nice if they included females in, but sometimes you just got to roll with what you got. Of course this is coming from a dude, so maybe my opinion isn't as important...
I gotta say I was disappointed. I wanted to make a badass female resistance member, but now I guess I'll make a feminine male resistance soldier. *shrugs*
Mehh well I never play as a woman, and having more options for customization also I don't think that will be really a big deal, most of the videogames main characters are males.
I think that is just a rumor, I mean how many space could take in a game putting por custom options?
I think that is just a rumor, I mean how many space could take in a game putting por custom options?
Whoops. There goes my argument. Nothing more annoying than taking a stand and screwing up the facts. Sorry about that, I played it a long time ago and didn't remember the female avatars. I suppose by that time in the list I was just trying to think of any macho online shooter.migo said:
Apologies, my fellow gamers.
Would've been nice to play as a woman, but eh. I'm used to playing as a white, brown haired man thanks to most other games in existence.
Hmmm, well I think there is more to this than it would at first appear.
Generally speaking it takes a whole new framework for a female model, and then a whole new set of texture options to stick onto that model. To do it right is more involved than just sticking a couple of breasts on a male avatar. They could be right, in that adding a female option would have greatly limited the number of options for the male avatars.
I'll also be honest in saying that they might have wanted to avoid the whole "shim" issue. That is to say guys playing with female avatars online. All comments about being "understanding" about it, or how it doesn't bother you, even here on The Escapist there are tons of threads about it from time to time, and I remember hearing some comments about some game developers being a bit disturbed by it from time to time. I've had toons of both genders at various times so it doesn't bother me (obviously) but it's still a big issue.
I'd suspect that given that a game like "Brink" is going to be heavily male dominated irregardless of the Avatar options, they wanted to avoid the whole issue of dudes running around playing girls, and the inevitable "lulz, why do you play a girl?" questions all through it's community.
I remember the subject coming up a long while ago when they first released "City Of Villains" and there were questions about why you didn't have an option for your mastermind minions to be female (even if the main character could be), and so on.
There is no way to know for sure, but I suspect they might just be answering this way to avoid offending part of the player base they might be interested in courting later with a differant game.
Generally speaking it takes a whole new framework for a female model, and then a whole new set of texture options to stick onto that model. To do it right is more involved than just sticking a couple of breasts on a male avatar. They could be right, in that adding a female option would have greatly limited the number of options for the male avatars.
I'll also be honest in saying that they might have wanted to avoid the whole "shim" issue. That is to say guys playing with female avatars online. All comments about being "understanding" about it, or how it doesn't bother you, even here on The Escapist there are tons of threads about it from time to time, and I remember hearing some comments about some game developers being a bit disturbed by it from time to time. I've had toons of both genders at various times so it doesn't bother me (obviously) but it's still a big issue.
I'd suspect that given that a game like "Brink" is going to be heavily male dominated irregardless of the Avatar options, they wanted to avoid the whole issue of dudes running around playing girls, and the inevitable "lulz, why do you play a girl?" questions all through it's community.
I remember the subject coming up a long while ago when they first released "City Of Villains" and there were questions about why you didn't have an option for your mastermind minions to be female (even if the main character could be), and so on.
There is no way to know for sure, but I suspect they might just be answering this way to avoid offending part of the player base they might be interested in courting later with a differant game.
Does it really matter that much in a FPS? I would totally forget that I was controlling Lilith in Borderlands until one of her one-liners came up.