British Teachers Still Blaming Games for Schoolyard Violence

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SenseOfTumour

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Watch 50's american TV, you'll see kids playing in the backyard, running around pretending to be cowboys, making gun shapes and yelling BANG.

Must be CoD's fault, right?

Sadly it's videogames' time to be demonised, and I can't foresee what will take its place.
 

Caffeine_Bombed

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Well, this article seems to have brought out the pretentious wanker in a lot of people.
How long did you have to spend in that cheap art college so you could come up with reasons like "It's nature, not nuture. We humans are just violent disgusting creatures"? And let's not even start on the 'experts' who have 'done real research'.


This article doesn't state "all British schoolkids are punching each other" and I suspect, as has been the case many times before, it's a small group of kids in a few schools who took the game too far and now it's becoming a national emergency because of an isolated incident. It's like British Bulldogs. Yeah some people muttered under their breath about it, but SOME schools only began banning it after one pupil suffered a bad injury(a couple of decades after it became popular). They were still playing it when I left school 8 years ago.
Kids have always emulated things and very few of their schoolyard games draw attention. Video games are just the in-thing to blame today because it's convenient. To be honest, it wouldn't suprise me if there were 'P.C' issues in there somewhere.

Look at the little scrotes who pass the time by drnking cheap booze in a bus stop, heckling pensioners. Or the pricks who go out to pubs JUST to start a fight with someone different to them. Or the 7 years olds who run out in front of vehicles just so they can shout "watch out you fucking ****" at the driver. Now go look at their parents and the homes they grew up in. My old man raised me to respect people and know what the limits were and all the video games I played and violent films I watched didn't hinder those lessons.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Right. Because kids didn't know what violence is before video games. Or better yet, violence didn't exist at all prior to video games.
 

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I'd like to know what the reason for all the "hitting, hurting and thumping" was when I was a kid. Video games hadn't been invented (at least not for the masses and definitely not for kids) in the 70's when I grew up. There were a hell of a lot of Westerns and WWII films on TV and I was very partial to Star Trek. Still am.
 
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kids beating the cr@p out of eachothers been happening since forever.

Although i am 100% behind moves to stop dumb parents buying 18 cert games for 8 year olds.
time for more parents in this country to parent
 

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I've always loved that argument that games make you stupid and get bad grades. I easily get in around 15 hours of gaming a week, and I've always been a top achiever and I get assignments in a good week before they're due. Unlike most people who leave everything to the night before. It's called time management, children. It'll save your life.

Oh, and there's a reason they're tired at school - they'd rather be surviving the zombie apocalypse and saving the world than sitting in a classroom for six hours learning to read properly.

But seriously, kids have always been like this. Did everyone travel back to the 1800s or something, and think that white people are superior and children should never speak? It's actually embarrassing.
 

zefiris

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Of course games are at fault.

If they weren't, teachers and parents would have to DO something about it.

It's easier sitting back, throwing up your hands and blaming games.
 

Eric the Orange

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Question for you native Brits out there. Whats the difference between "Hitting" and "Thumping"? Because in American English they are synonymous.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!
Hehehe.

Recognized this, and Piggy's face there immediately.

Thank you for this.

OT: We've been over this time and time again, and it always goes back to the same result of the complaining always getting their way to some extent, while the actual morals and conduct leave this highly debatable, logic pointing to the parents controlling their children in the first place, not giving them these damn things in the first place
 

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As a child in a british school, I can say that the children who only play CoD and are interested in sports are evil pricks. I can also say that the children who play many games tend to be nicer and not very violent. Plus they tend to get higher grades/levels.
 

Xenowolf

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Bullshit. I did stuff like that when I was about 5 or 6, and I wasn't even allowed to play games (or films) with a high age rating back then. I could go on, but all my points have already been said.
 

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Buretsu said:
JakobBloch said:
"Boys will be boys" is an apt quote here. A pedagogue friend of mine who I worked with for a while explained that kids and boys in particular have a biological need for, essentially, being violent. It is part of their physical maturing. While a lot of can be achieved through running, jumping, climbing and other physical activity, sometimes they just need a good dust up.
And, hey, if that dust up just happens to include a group of older boys beating the everloving shit out of a single younger boy, well... "Boys will be boys".

Is there anything that quote can't justify? Rape? Murder? Can't do anything about THAT, because "boys will be boys".
Well no. The first one could at best be called bullying but is essential in line with the "boys will be boys" saying. It was however not what I was trying to say. I used it because being violent or having violent urges is a part of being a boy. The problem as I see is that instead of accepting this fact and working on a way to help them deal with these urges safely (like handing them inflatable hammers and telling them to go to town) they want to blame someone or something for it.

Now the group of boys vs 1 boy was a good example of boys being boys in a bad way. Pushing it into rape and murder however was hyperbole. Not only is rape and murder serious crimes but they also infer a certain maturity that precludes the term "boy".

I have this feeling that you did not read my full post as ultimately I did not use the term to dismiss the actions of boys. I used it to show that the actions are signs of urges that the boys themselves have. I was trying to make it clear that outside forces do not suddenly turn children violent. They merely work as sources of inspiration. The capacity for violence is already there and it will find an outlet. I think we should help them find a safe outlet instead of wasting our time to find out what to blame.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Scars Unseen said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Scars Unseen said:
DVS BSTrD said:
These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!
Like a conch shell? I don't get the reference.
You don't know what film the picture is from do you?
Nope. I don't watch many movies. The local theater is pretty awful, and by the time a movie comes out on Blu-Ray I've forgotten all about it in most cases.
I'll give you a hint
<spoiler=It's based on a book you might have read in school>http://literacylinks.civiced.org/design_images/Lord%20of%20the%20Flies.jpg
i thought it was a straw dogs reference.
any way i am one of those people who is of the opinion that if the parents are buying sick violent video games for there kids than they are doing it wrong and the age rating system is pretty strict in this country already.aged 13 i wasn't allowed to buy call of duty 3 for the ps2. presumably they thought I might get it in my head to make everyone ragdolise.
 

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FelixG said:
PureIrony said:
Kids beat the shit out of each other because we are living in an age which glorifies violence to an almost masturbatory extent. That, and the fact that everyone in this generation seems to have no sense of self-control, and that should go double for children.
Humans are naturally violent critters, it has very little to do with the "age we live in" crap.
ha "critters" my cultural studies would like you. But seriously it boils down to this with a large majority of bullies. Kids + Broken Homes = what? say it with me BULLIES yeah that's right and I don't see video games creating broken homes. What creates broken homes are addictions, unstable individuals, poor income, and poor education which leads to arguments among the parents about each other faults. There are a ton of factors, video games are new to the scene and broken homes been around since the start of times.

Now if you excuse let me sit back and enjoy the shit storm about to appear.
 

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mattttherman3 said:
Yeah, I read this, couldn't help but think back to when I was in grade school and the WWF was blamed for every violent situation.
Ah yes, the good ol' days where children used to try and copy all the moves from WWF inside and outside of school.
 

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I would make a comment on how dumb this supposed link is but I'm more interested in how exactly they find kids that don't play games to compare against. The majority of people, at least here in the states, have played games. How do you find children that haven't played games and aren't from some ultra-conservative media fearing sect or something? It's gotta be hard to find a good sample. Its like trying to find the one kid that doesn't like to drink juice over water at school and comparing him to all the other kids and saying there hyper-caffeinated.