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Mr. Omega

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My love for my family and the fact that I'm in a US college are the only things keeping me here in the US. Trust me, dude, I love this country, but once most of my family (who are pretty old) pass on and I graduate, I'm heading abroad for a while...
 

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KaiRai said:
So I woke up this morning, and decided I hate where I live. Everything is too expensive, jobs are nowhere and the whole place just looks bleak. I want to get out of here. I've thought about moving to the US but unsure how to do this. I'd like to join the US army I guess, but I don't know anything about the policies.

So any of you currently enlisted US escapists, what's the policy on accepting your old British brothers into your army?
What's wrong with our army?

No offense, but I think if you're gona join the forces, you should join them in your native country, but then I'm pretty patriotic about stuff like that so hey.

You could just move to a different part of the UK and see how you get on there. If you still feel the same then maybe think about moving to the USA, but I cant see how it would really be any better than here. But then I like it here haha :/

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ChromeAlchemist said:
KaiRai said:
So I woke up this morning, and decided I hate where I live. Everything is too expensive, jobs are nowhere and the whole place just looks bleak. I want to get out of here. I've thought about moving to the US but unsure how to do this. I'd like to join the US army I guess, but I don't know anything about the policies.

So any of you currently enlisted US escapists, what's the policy on accepting your old British brothers into your army?
That's actually crazy hearing that. There are things to dislike about Britain (same as everywhere else) but there are a lot of good things in our country that people take for granted, namely the things named above.

Besides that, why do you want to join the US army instead of the British army? Especially considering you're saying jobs are nowhere and the military is always taking healthy people.

And don't take my word for it, but becoming a U.S. citizen might prove to be difficult (though military service might get you there).
Actually, the British Army is scaling back recruitment. It's getting harder and harder to get in through the grunt route.
:O

This surprises me, I always thought the army was keen for enlisted men. You cant make an army out of officers and other personell, you need squaddies.

I'm guessing it's because of budget cuts or something? But then I would've thought squaddies are cheaper to train than most other roles in the army?

:(
 

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Lt.Snuffles said:
I don't think you quite realise what a wonderful place the UK is to live in. The climate is perfect however much we complain, and the services like the NHS are, dispite flaws, brilliant.
I think if you got US citizenship you would be able to join the army, however i'm not sure.
And Now I feel proud to be British!!

 

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You have to be a resident or a US citizen to join the US Army.

If you really want to move to the US, you could look for employment out there and have a company sponsor your move.

It'll take you >10 years to become a resident that way.

Or marry into it.
 

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Pandalisk said:
Lt.Snuffles said:
I don't think you quite realise what a wonderful place the UK is to live in. The climate is perfect however much we complain, and the services like the NHS are, dispite flaws, brilliant.
I think if you got US citizenship you would be able to join the army, however i'm not sure.
I was under the impression that the United States army was infact a way to gain US Citizenship?

Hmm
You're thinking of Starship Troopers.

Also if you move to the US you'll miss out on Escapism UK. The best part of living here.
 

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Squarez said:
Lt.Snuffles said:
I don't think you quite realise what a wonderful place the UK is to live in. The climate is perfect however much we complain, and the services like the NHS are, dispite flaws, brilliant.
I think if you got US citizenship you would be able to join the army, however i'm not sure.
Ditto this. If you hate where you live, why not move somewhere else in the UK instead of away from everyone and everything.

Out of curiosity, what exactly to do you 'hate' about where you live?
I say go in the opposite direction, move to the phillipines.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
NONONO!

Don't move to America, they're healthcare isn't as good as ours. The only reasons we have long waiting lists is that people don't like to give up their organs in here. If you don't linke where you live, move around the country! We have the BBC! THE BBC! DOCTOR WHO BEFORE ANYONE!

Wow, I guess I really do like muddy old Britain.

Calumon: Not alot of vending machines here though...
Doctor who is hardly a point in our favour anymore, new series is terrible
But...

Waking the Dead!
 

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KaiRai said:
So I woke up this morning, and decided I hate where I live. Everything is too expensive, jobs are nowhere and the whole place just looks bleak. I want to get out of here. I've thought about moving to the US but unsure how to do this. I'd like to join the US army I guess, but I don't know anything about the policies.

So any of you currently enlisted US escapists, what's the policy on accepting your old British brothers into your army?
Uh, I actually thought you were talking about the US with those problems. It's not any better, maybe worse.
 

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Squarez said:
If you move to America (love you guys, still) you can say goodbye to comfortable outdoor temperatures. If you've grown up with in the UK chances are it might be a bit hot or a bit chilly but you'll rarely be reaching for that winter coat or dying of thirst. But if you move to America (depending on where you go) you won't be used to it, meaning that half the year you'll either be freezing or boiling in winter or summer respectively. Hell, even a lot of Americans complain at the heat in the summertime.
You Brits are so wimpy about heat. I don't particularly like summer where I'm at, but only because it's too humid. You get used to temperature changes pretty quickly though. Seattle is also about as drab as the UK, so he could always move there if he's afraid of sunlight.

Personally, I'd go to Australia. Funny accents and great beaches. The easiest way to get residency here is probably marriage or an anchor baby. After that, citizenship can take a while.
 

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Well the US army is always a good choice for a job and it can be used to pay for college if wanted. Oh and don't listen to people that say the weather is unbearable over here, it's totally dependent on where you live. If you want somewhere cool then I would suggest the Northeast because that has weather similar to Britain I'm guessing. Plus there is a much wider range of great food over here if that's important.

Of course there's going to be difficulties when moving to any other countries so you shouldn't do anything too rash without really mulling it over.
 

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Mechsoap said:
maybe move to Canada instead?
this has nothing to do with your post...but whats with all the Lucky Star avitars...when i had me Elfen Lied one on i kept seeing alot of Elfen Lied ones....now that i have a Lucky Star one....well...yeah.
 

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I married an american girl and moved from SE England to Ohio, USA. Yep don't have the NHS here but we actually have hospitals that won't kill you and police officers that give a damn. Although I seemed to arrive just before the "annointed one" took office so I guess I brought nanny state and socialist policies with me...sorry about that.

From start to finish the whole immigration nonsense from the actual act of marriage in the USA to me actually stepping off a plane and being a permanent resident took 2 years. You must be in good health and in your case if you're not moving to live with someone or have no work lined up you'd need an affidavit of support, that is someone willing to sponsor you for the first year financially, that is to say you won't arrive and start claiming benefits the second you get here, any "benefits" you would claim would come out of the sponsors pocket and not the governments.

You can gain citizenship status through the US Army if you wanted but i'm pretty sure you'd have to be a permanent resident or be living in the USA with some form of legal status to begin with.

Only move to Canada if you want an even more expensive version of the UK...plus the risk of meeting quebecans *shudder*

My advice, short of falling for an american girl like me, as others have suggested, try getting work in a more remote part of the UK where the government isn't breathing down your neck so much and people actually still talk to each other like human beings or try another EU country if leftist politics aren't the concern.
 

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Leaving your country, and coming to America seems like a bad idea (unless, you know, you're leaving a 3rd-world country where dinner consists of rape and murder). Why not move to another place that speaks English, and has better Health-care (than the States)?
 

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KaiRai said:
So I woke up this morning, and decided I hate where I live. Everything is too expensive, jobs are nowhere and the whole place just looks bleak. I want to get out of here. I've thought about moving to the US but unsure how to do this. I'd like to join the US army I guess, but I don't know anything about the policies.

So any of you currently enlisted US escapists, what's the policy on accepting your old British brothers into your army?
Please tell me you're kidding. I live here in the US and every day I wish I could get the hell out and move somewhere like Britain. For starters, you've got no idea how nice socialized healthcare is. People here pay thousands of dollars every year to insurance companies that are just waiting for them to fill out a form wrong so that they can deny them for the healthcare they paid for. And if you do get denied, or can't get healthcare in the first place, you'll either have to end up in massive debt, or just not get better. It's like having a sword hanging over your head.

Admittedly, a lot of the food we get here is cheeper, but it's also incredibly bad for you. All westernized nations have abnormally high rates of cancer and diabetes as a result of processed food, but here in the US processed food is the only option unless you can both afford whole foods and have the time to cook. I remember when I visited Britain, I'd go into a Tesco and think to myself "wow, I wish I could get actual food like this in a grocery store in the US."

It's not like our economy is any better off than yours is either. I know people who've been looking for employment for months and still haven't had any luck. Coming over here for money reasons doesn't make any sense, because even if your unhealthy groceries ultimately cost less, they make you sick more often, so you have to buy really expensive healthcare. Also, very few American cities have well developed public transportation, meaning you'll probably have to buy a car, pay for gas, insurance, repairs, etc... I seriously wish we actually had a good public transport system here where I live. But what we've got is horrible, and most US cities actually have a worse public transportation system than we do.

I wouldn't want to join the US army either. Even though we're starting to decline our troop deployments, we're far from done. I've got a couple friends who've been stop-lossed. Don't know if that's a term that's used in Britain, but what it means is that if you join the army, and get deployed overseas (which you almost inevitably will, since we're still fucking around in Afghanistan) that even after your term of duty is over, they can declare you stop-lossed and send you right back without giving you the option to quit active duty.

If you want to move here, that's your business, but just make sure you've done your research and that it'll actually be worth it before you do. Moving to he US would probably just add strain to your wallet, instead of magically solving all your problems.
 

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Pokey2shoes said:
Only move to Canada if you want an even more expensive version of the UK...plus the risk of meeting quebecans *shudder*
Hahahaha! That's just about one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

Here to there the price numbers on just about everything are the same, with the significant difference of one being in dollars and the other in pounds. A £20 meal doesn't seem unreasonable until you realize it's actually $32 and throw up a little.

And you'll only meet someone from Quebec if you go to Quebec, and it's a pretty easy place to avoid if you need to.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
NONONO!

Don't move to America, they're healthcare isn't as good as ours. The only reasons we have long waiting lists is that people don't like to give up their organs in here. If you don't linke where you live, move around the country! We have the BBC! THE BBC! DOCTOR WHO BEFORE ANYONE!

Wow, I guess I really do like muddy old Britain.

Calumon: Not alot of vending machines here though...
Ah! Exactly bro. If you go to the US, you lose first dibs on Doctor Who. Therefore, everyone else's argument is redered invalid.

Just move to a better place in the UK, try to get away from chavs especially. However, that will probably be difficult.
 

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thenumberthirteen said:
Pandalisk said:
Lt.Snuffles said:
I don't think you quite realise what a wonderful place the UK is to live in. The climate is perfect however much we complain, and the services like the NHS are, dispite flaws, brilliant.
I think if you got US citizenship you would be able to join the army, however i'm not sure.
I was under the impression that the United States army was infact a way to gain US Citizenship?

Hmm
You're thinking of Starship Troopers.

Also if you move to the US you'll miss out on Escapism UK. The best part of living here.
So were not a war with Alien Bugs?..a shame
 

Sebenko

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Don't run from problems!

If you think Britain is so shit, lead a revolution.

In case you hadn't realised, Britain is a pretty fantastic nation as it is. People whinge, but that's a tradition from when we had real problems.
 

Korolev

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that enlisting in the US army is one of the fastest ways to EARN citizenship. Apparently you do not have to be a citizen to join - but if you do, you can become a citizen after just one tour. I saw it on TV.

Why not keep your UK citizenship? You can have dual US-UK citizenship, just as you can have US-Australian citizenship or UK-Australian Citizenship. That would be best. That way, you can still leg it back if things in the US don't work out as you intended.

Living in the UK has its problems, but living anywhere has problems. The US is a fine country to live in, but it's not a paradise by any means, according to the people that left it to come to Australia. Australia's not a paradise either, for that matter - in fact, no country is perfect.