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Deadlock Radium

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oppp7 said:
How many Pokemon are there?
One hundred and fi..shite.

I don't use the word "hardcore" because it sounds like I'm bragging then "I'm a hardcore gamer."
I don't call myself a "gamer" either, because in Norway, that sounds stupid.
I play games and I have fun with them, I don't need to declare myself something for that.
 

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Palademon said:
I dont think anyone can be considered a hardcore GAMER, by just claiming they're good at the ONE GAME they play.
You'd be surprised how many self labeled "hardcore gamers" play only Modern Warfare 2 and disparage every other well known game as shit.
I dont think I'd be suprised. My idea of a hardcore gamer is not someone who plays games only to win and see others lose, or someone who is good at every game they play. My idea of a harcore gamer is someone who's just serious about gaming, who find it a big part of their life and has reasonable skill. Gamers like the people here, who keep in touch with the news, and dont simply buy the overhyped popular game according to their friends and suddenly consider themselves a gamer for ever having played one.

EDIT: Also, maybe I consider a hardcore game, someone who respects all consoles, instead of forming the versus arguement every time a different console comes up.
 

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Lol, I don't need to take a test to know I'm NOT hardcore.

I AM a gamer, but not hardcore nor casual. I fall somewhere in the middle with people who will play Unreal Tournament for hours on end and enjoy it, and also pay attention to E3 and future games coming in, but because I'm so picky about what games I'll buy and play, I don't consider myself hardcore.

EDIT: Plus, I'm not good at any games I play anyways :p
 

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shewolf51 said:
Ehhhhhhhhh. There's no real definition of "hardcore gamer".

My personal definition is just how much time you spend playing games. If you play every now and then. Like maybe for one hour, three times a week in order to kill time. That would fall in the "Casual gamer" category. But if you play for a few hours or more, three times a week or more. Then you'd fall into the "hardcore gamer" category.
Well then if thats the catigory to be a hardcore gamer then please i'd like to be adressed as Supreme overlord gamer.
 

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The Blue Mongoose said:
I want to be a casual gamer though! Regardless of how much I play, how good I am, what games I play... I'm a casual gamer in attitude (read: I play for fun), I don't want to be hardcore!
I would like to join your ranks.
 

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Legion IV said:
shewolf51 said:
Ehhhhhhhhh. There's no real definition of "hardcore gamer".

My personal definition is just how much time you spend playing games. If you play every now and then. Like maybe for one hour, three times a week in order to kill time. That would fall in the "Casual gamer" category. But if you play for a few hours or more, three times a week or more. Then you'd fall into the "hardcore gamer" category.
Well then if thats the catigory to be a hardcore gamer then please i'd like to be adressed as Supreme overlord gamer.
Aye aye sir. As long as I can be addressed as the same. 64 hours of gaming per week is hard to keep up you know.
 

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shewolf51 said:
Legion IV said:
shewolf51 said:
Ehhhhhhhhh. There's no real definition of "hardcore gamer".

My personal definition is just how much time you spend playing games. If you play every now and then. Like maybe for one hour, three times a week in order to kill time. That would fall in the "Casual gamer" category. But if you play for a few hours or more, three times a week or more. Then you'd fall into the "hardcore gamer" category.
Well then if thats the catigory to be a hardcore gamer then please i'd like to be adressed as Supreme overlord gamer.
Aye aye sir. As long as I can be addressed as the same. 64 hours of gaming per week is hard to keep up you know.
As you wish. I vote we get all the overlords into a group and form a council with us at the head! anyone who likes soul reaver i can call my brother!.

In all honesty though. This argument is pretty easy to solve. do you see a game as just a game? are you the person who says calm down its just a game or when am older with better things to do i'll stop. Your a casual. If you see games as more then just a game and enterainment if you think gaming is a huge part in your life or your passion then your a hardcore. That easy. I will always say its more then a game.
 

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almostnot said:
I propose we settle the hardcore debate with a series of questions, with a pass mark of 80% that a hardcore gamer must acheive before counting themself as one. Let's make this knowledge based folks.

I'm looking for question suggestions (do not include answers please) and a suggested number of how many questions should be involved.
First differentiate between CORE gamers and hardcore gamers
then do the hardcore.

Question: do you belong to the top 10% players of any of the following games SC, WC3, SupCom, dow, civ4, aow2, or can you demonstrate similar competitiveness in another tactical game with a long learning curve?

If yes - hardcore
 

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Here's some Definitions, mix and match them as you like.Myself, I consider myself a Passionate Casual. Very rarely do I cross over to Hardcore.

Passionate Gamer: You're Passionate towards Video Games and The Medium. You play games for fun or challenge, appreciate varied gameplay and story archetypes, and try not to be overly bias against other forms of Video Games.

Hardcore Gamer: You play games for the Challenge! You Practice and Train hard to compete against your fellow Hardcore Gamers. Story doesn't matter a whole lot to you so long as the game is challenging. Easy games or games that are difficult due to flaws are rejected outright, though this is a double edged sword as you might miss out on some great competitive games due to their Easy Appearance.

Casual Gamer: You play games solely for fun, once people start getting competitive it ruins the experience for you. You may pick up a game, single or multiplayer, for about and hour or so before putting it down and going back to what you were doing before. Games to you are like movies or books, they're just another form of Media you use to escape from real life.

New Gamer: You've only played the gaming equivalent to youtube videos and short web series. It's been Browser/Flash Games and Puzzle Games for you and they still aren't part of your world view of culture. They aren't to the level of books or movies yet. If you're a sane person, this is fine though a little dated. If you're not sane you may form bias opinions based on what you've seen or heard. You may even start campaigning against them as if they're planting the seeds of evil in to those who play... you know, just like Movies and Music did so well in the past.

HARDCORE!!! Gamer: You only play competitively, but once people start getting competitive it ruins the experience for you. English is not a first language for you, no language is, the best you could hope for is some garbled sub-version of English or at best Leet-Speak. Doesn't really matter to you though, so long as you make sure you're the only one having a good time. In fact, you're the only one who should be having a good time, which is why you find it so hard to believe that some companies aren't focusing on games that comply to your specific pallet of gaming. The easiest conclusion you can draw is that those companies suck and those who decidedly play those games and buy those consoles are Noob Losers who wouldn't know real gaming if it was fired at them out of the barrel of the Class M15 Semi-Automatic Gatling Gun strapped to your favorite characters broad, oversized shoulders. Heaven forbid anyone disagree with you on this subject or try to prove your bias assumptions wrong. They must have not read your run-on sentence on how much they and their console suck hard enough, you should re-post it. You're the self-proclaimed best at what ever game you're playing, the only way people can beat you is if they use hacks which you are quick to call out on, but not hesitant to use yourself if the situation arises. Besides, you're the best right? This qualifies you to cheat, seeing how you'd win anyway, right? It's ether that or they're simply not playing the game right, or we should say not in a way that mimics you exactly or allows you the luxury of winning. That's a right reserved for you and you alone, it's why you play games in the first place. If it's not Gray, Black, and Brown; it's probably not worth your time.
 

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AdamRBi said:
Here's some Definitions, mix and match them as you like.Myself, I consider myself a Passionate Casual. Very rarely do I cross over to Hardcore.

Passionate Gamer: You're Passionate towards Video Games and The Medium. You play games for fun or challenge, appreciate varied gameplay and story archetypes, and try not to be overly bias against other forms of Video Games.

Hardcore Gamer: You play games for the Challenge! You Practice and Train hard to compete against your fellow Hardcore Gamers. Story doesn't matter a whole lot to you so long as the game is challenging. Easy games or games that are difficult due to flaws are rejected outright, though this is a double edged sword as you might miss out on some great competitive games due to their Easy Appearance.

Casual Gamer: You play games solely for fun, once people start getting competitive it ruins the experience for you. You may pick up a game, single or multiplayer, for about and hour or so before putting it down and going back to what you were doing before. Games to you are like movies or books, they're just another form of Media you use to escape from real life.

New Gamer: You've only played the gaming equivalent to youtube videos and short web series. It's been Browser/Flash Games and Puzzle Games for you and they still aren't part of your world view of culture. They aren't to the level of books or movies yet. If you're a sane person, this is fine though a little dated. If you're not sane you may form bias opinions based on what you've seen or heard. You may even start campaigning against them as if they're planting the seeds of evil in to those who play... you know, just like Movies and Music did so well in the past.

HARDCORE!!! Gamer: You only play competitively, but once people start getting competitive it ruins the experience for you. English is not a first language for you, no language is, the best you could hope for is some garbled sub-version of English or at best Leet-Speak. Doesn't really matter to you though, so long as you make sure you're the only one having a good time. In fact, you're the only one who should be having a good time, which is why you find it so hard to believe that some companies aren't focusing on games that comply to your specific pallet of gaming. The easiest conclusion you can draw is that those companies suck and those who decidedly play those games and buy those consoles are Noob Losers who wouldn't know real gaming if it was fired at them out of the barrel of the Class M15 Semi-Automatic Gatling Gun strapped to your favorite characters broad, oversized shoulders. Heaven forbid anyone disagree with you on this subject or try to prove your bias assumptions wrong. They must have not read your run-on sentence on how much they and their console suck hard enough, you should re-post it. You're the self-proclaimed best at what ever game you're playing, the only way people can beat you is if they use hacks which you are quick to call out on, but not hesitant to use yourself if the situation arises. Besides, you're the best right? This qualifies you to cheat, seeing how you'd win anyway, right? It's ether that or they're simply not playing the game right, or we should say not in a way that mimics you exactly or allows you the luxury of winning. That's a right reserved for you and you alone, it's why you play games in the first place. If it's not Gray, Black, and Brown; it's probably not worth your time.
Well...it may not be perfect but I like the label passionate gamer a lot...but then the hardcore gamer encompasses a lot of people too.

Still, fabulous contribution, thank you!
 

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almostnot said:
AdamRBi said:
Here's some Definitions, mix and match them as you like.Myself, I consider myself a Passionate Casual. Very rarely do I cross over to Hardcore.

Passionate Gamer: You're Passionate towards Video Games and The Medium. You play games for fun or challenge, appreciate varied gameplay and story archetypes, and try not to be overly bias against other forms of Video Games.

Hardcore Gamer: You play games for the Challenge! You Practice and Train hard to compete against your fellow Hardcore Gamers. Story doesn't matter a whole lot to you so long as the game is challenging. Easy games or games that are difficult due to flaws are rejected outright, though this is a double edged sword as you might miss out on some great competitive games due to their Easy Appearance.

Casual Gamer: You play games solely for fun, once people start getting competitive it ruins the experience for you. You may pick up a game, single or multiplayer, for about and hour or so before putting it down and going back to what you were doing before. Games to you are like movies or books, they're just another form of Media you use to escape from real life.

New Gamer: You've only played the gaming equivalent to youtube videos and short web series. It's been Browser/Flash Games and Puzzle Games for you and they still aren't part of your world view of culture. They aren't to the level of books or movies yet. If you're a sane person, this is fine though a little dated. If you're not sane you may form bias opinions based on what you've seen or heard. You may even start campaigning against them as if they're planting the seeds of evil in to those who play... you know, just like Movies and Music did so well in the past.

HARDCORE!!! Gamer: You only play competitively, but once people start getting competitive it ruins the experience for you. English is not a first language for you, no language is, the best you could hope for is some garbled sub-version of English or at best Leet-Speak. Doesn't really matter to you though, so long as you make sure you're the only one having a good time. In fact, you're the only one who should be having a good time, which is why you find it so hard to believe that some companies aren't focusing on games that comply to your specific pallet of gaming. The easiest conclusion you can draw is that those companies suck and those who decidedly play those games and buy those consoles are Noob Losers who wouldn't know real gaming if it was fired at them out of the barrel of the Class M15 Semi-Automatic Gatling Gun strapped to your favorite characters broad, oversized shoulders. Heaven forbid anyone disagree with you on this subject or try to prove your bias assumptions wrong. They must have not read your run-on sentence on how much they and their console suck hard enough, you should re-post it. You're the self-proclaimed best at what ever game you're playing, the only way people can beat you is if they use hacks which you are quick to call out on, but not hesitant to use yourself if the situation arises. Besides, you're the best right? This qualifies you to cheat, seeing how you'd win anyway, right? It's ether that or they're simply not playing the game right, or we should say not in a way that mimics you exactly or allows you the luxury of winning. That's a right reserved for you and you alone, it's why you play games in the first place. If it's not Gray, Black, and Brown; it's probably not worth your time.
Well...it may not be perfect but I like the label passionate gamer a lot...but then the hardcore gamer encompasses a lot of people too.

Still, fabulous contribution, thank you!
You're Welcome. It's not that hard, in my opinion, to be considered a Hardcore Gamer. I don't think it requires a test of any sorts unless it pertains to play style.

"Your last 2 tries to rush the enemy base have failed, do you: A. Keep Rushing? B. Try Rushing from a different Angle or in a group? C. Hold back a moment and plan your attack. D. Collaborate with another Teammate on an attack strategy."
 

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Eh...

I'm not sure this'll work. It's very difficult to define hardcore gamer. Some might think they're hardcore because they play nothing but Call Of Duty and have a high K/D ratio. Some might think they're hardcore because they've spent 13 hours straight playing Civ 4 on hardest. Some might think they're hardcore because they managed to get 5 Stars on expert on every song in Rock Band 2. Some might think they're hardcore because they managed to beat every Myst game without using a walkthrough.

There's not really any way I can think of to make a test that doesn't exclude at least one legitimate gaming group. It's an admirable idea, but I'd need some hefty convincing it'll work.
I would consider hardcore, as somebody who spends a good portion (if not all) there free time either gaming or talking about games.

Not how good you are at gaming, cos everybody is different some people have great reaction times so are better at FPS but they would be slaughtered in an RTS, but that is just my thoughts.

Overall, I think I agree. We can't even agree on what a hardcore gamer is let alone what questions we need to define a hardcore from a softcore gamer.
 

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A hardcore gamer is some one who enjoys playing video games of all varieties and spend more time playing video games than other activities, a hardcore gamer will also keep up with gaming news and talk about games with friends and relatives. so basically a hardcore gamer should be someone who plays video games and has a passion for them. I like what Littaly says though
Littaly said:
Why can't we just call it gamer? Isn't that enough? I would never call a person who plays games once a month a gamer. Casual gamer maybe, but that doesn't mean there is a need for us to call ourselves hardcore, it just comes off as pathetic.

That said, there is also no need for us to have any kind of test, what good would it serve in the end? Why do we need to label everything?
 

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1 question:
Did you buy a Wii for something other than a franchise that has a game on the N64? If yes, the you are casual since nothing but waggle gimmicks remain (and Metroid, since I don't think there was a Metroid game on the N64)
If you bought it for 1 of the other games (Mario, Zelda, DK, SSB, etc.) you are excused.

It all boils down to the types of games you play. Gimmicky waggle/short and simple games, vs more complex and involved titles.
Wii Sports vs Demon's Souls, so to speak. Simple and easy vs hard and complex.
 

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It's really hard to determine what is a hardcore gamer. Is it a RPG-only player (or adventure player)? Or more of a Hearts of Iron/Europa Universalis freak? Or we just mark as hardcore everyone that plays multiplayer aspect of "serious" shooters?
 

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I like the concept. It should include information not just on current gen consoles but video game history as well. Even dating back to the Atari 2600 and pong.
 

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That doesn't sound like a very good defining tool for this sort of thing, I mean just because someone passes a driving test and gets license doesn't necessarily mean they are a good driver.

I didn't even know there was a debate about this, and it doesn't seem like an all too pressing matter to warrant anything like this.
 
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almostnot said:
gmaverick019 said:
you have to have a sub genre of hardcore gamer for it to work

like hardcore strategizer

or hardcore shooter

there is no way to really be just hardcore

plus i fucking hate that term, if you game then your a gamer, i hate elitist pricks like that
I think you might be on to something with the sub genres. On the elitist prick point are you against elitism generally or just within gaming? Don't you distinguish between game developers you think are good and those you think are poor?
well i just think of it like sports.

you dont claim your hardcore at all sports if your a pro

your a hardcore soccer player

your a hardcore football player

your a hardcore basketball player

the same logic applies to video games i think.

but anyways, the term elitism, for me, is generally hardcore people who act like complete snobs about everythng and have the biggest e-penis's in the world for no reason at all, thats what i hate about it, but if your good at a game, and decently humble, then i dont have a problem with a hardcore person/group.
 

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