Well Jean's rebirth as the Phoenix is a pretty big plot point in the comics, if not one of the biggest.Lord Krunk said:Pretty much because they killed off the best characters at the start of the movie, or simply removed them. Not to mention Jean's habitual reincarnation and subsequent annoyingness.Disaster Button said:Someone's still nursing that boo boo on their tender fanboy spot because the movies didn't turn out exactly how they wanted them.Samcanuck said:Who cares, as an x-men fan that WHOLE franchise was crap. Especially how they gayed up Nightcrawler, and always had one huge noticable mistake (like wolverines shirt healing itself, or nightcrawler in the pit before he even teleports there). They were all cornball, badacted garbage and paid no fan care as far as I'm concerned. Those movies are like games based off of movies. If they never make another one, it will be too soon.
OT: At least Emma Frost will finally be in, but I always loved X Men 3, I never understood why people think its so bad.
Okay, okay. Ian Mackellen as Magneto flying on a fucking bridge was awesome. But is that really worth the admission?
X3 was pretty bad dude.DRADIS C0ntact said:A lot of people thought X3 was bad? lol, I didn't even realize that. I thought it was great, but then again I like almost everything.
Come on, Kevin Spacey and Parker Posey carried that thing. Brandon Routh and Kate Bosworth's interaction were more wooden than a piece of plywood, and about as flat. (Saw it twice in theatre as well, once in IMAX)jthm said:X3 was pretty bad dude.
I'm confused, less than awesome Superman Returns? I don't remember that movie. I remember the terrific, went twice to see it Superman Returns, you know the one that was better than Xmen 1 and just a little worse than Xmen 2? But that movie was pretty fuckin' awesome as I recall.
Yeah, I overall enjoyed X-Men 3 but this sort of ruined it for me. I'm not that big of an X-Men fan boy so I could overlook the inconsistencies that the original 2 had, but just randomly killing off or driving away so many important characters was hard to stomach.Omnipro said:They have to reboot the franchise since they had Jean kill most of the important characters.
GOD I hate Xmen 3.
I agree with your post completely. Nice post.Cyberjester said:Samcanuck said:Who cares, as an x-men fan that WHOLE franchise was crap. Especially how they gayed up Nightcrawler, and always had one huge noticable mistake (like wolverines shirt healing itself, or nightcrawler in the pit before he even teleports there). They were all cornball, badacted garbage and paid no fan care as far as I'm concerned. Those movies are like games based off of movies. If they never make another one, it will be too soon.
This.
Excellent comics lead to high expectations and the movies failed miserably. Seen Wolverine: Origins? Technically in the X-Men series. Note how every single freaking person is bouncing off of walls? Only people like Beast or Weapon XIII (or XII? Been a while since I read them) did that.
They completely dropped Nightcrawler from the third movie, after introducing him in the second which as one of my fav char's, is unacceptable. Even in the movie version of him. And they aren't really going anywhere. The story lurches from one marvel 'verse to the other, then to a whole new one they made. If it was at least focused then it would be better.
But anything that doesn't include decent versions of Gambit, Rogue and Nightcrawler is going to suck.
Well considering Downey's Tony Stark and Norton's Bruce Banner were both very well played characters, I want to argue with you but I can't. I am worrying a lot about how Thor will turn out. I've heard less then positive things about it. The Captain America movie might actually be good though. Not sure. The Avenger's movie will be good as long as Cap and Thor have great actors for them, it's well presented which I suspect it will be; might fall to over hype syndrome though(see Spiderman 3), and it has to have Wasp and Antman in it. At least as fucking cameos cuz they were original characters.TsunamiWombat said:Avengers? It's going to suck. X Men movies? Sucked.