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ThreeWords

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The tactic I am about to prose assumes you, as I am, a teenager, and not looking for a long, meaningful relationship to last for decades. This hinges on the assumption that you'll only last so long anyway.

Basically, have a core circle of friends, and aim outside that for your love interest. Friends of friends, random people from parties, whatever, but don't go for your friends.


zehydra said:
I wonder if this thread is what caused the female rant next door...
What rant? Link?
 

Smooth Operator

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OmegaAlucard777 said:
I agree with you all. I just pose a hypothetical situation.

Say a guy enters into a friendship with no feelings for the girl. Then finds out later how great she is and all that stuff and suddenly begins to have romantic feelings for the girl. Does that mean that the guy is essentially screwed for life?

I only ask because everyone is basically saying the same thing.
Not for life no, just until she is ready for family and needs someone safe and reliable, you simply become the last resort.
Question is if you are prepared to stick around and see her with all those other guys, and if she didn't already find a preferable candidate amongst those.

You probably have better chances winning the lottery then getting that girl, no matter how close she appear to be.
 

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Mr.K. said:
dorkette1990 said:
Nerdy guys are amazing! Well, not so much for the cuddling, but if both of us were aloof, that ruins the magic, yeah? So, I don't mind if they cuddle me, I'm just not so much a curl up sorta girl. I like nerdy boys, except the lack of romance part (maybe it's just mine, though... he keeps telling me I'm "not girly enough to like the romantic stuff).
Well you definitely must be of the female species, since that made absolutely no sense and does not appear to be connected to the topic.

But hey that is the reason why we like your kind, the wackyness.
The thread is about girls' tendencies to "friendzone" nerdy guys. I was just saying that I don't trend toward that, and explained why. True, the last sentence is a tangent, but I don't think it deserved a back handed compliment.
But I don't come here for tact, and I am most definitely considered "wacky", so oh well.
 

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WOPR said:
...Just wondering

Being a site of nerds (I mean that in a good way) I'm wondering if any of you have had this situation

Being the cuddly, shy, kindhearted souls we are (well some of us are *cough*)

Why is it that EVERY girl I have ever talked to... goes like this...

"I like you, you're nice, funny, kind, and anyone would be very lucky to have you"
(quickly followed up by)
"...but we're JUST friends, okay?"
(2/3 of the time)
"You're like a brother to me..."

...soo am I the only one that wonders "well if all that is true why doesn't anyone try to give me a chance instead of pulling the 'friend' card every time?"

sorry starting to rant

In Short: Has anyone else had this situation?

(and yeah it ticks me off that after all that stuff they say they go out with a total dick saying "I can change him, he's nice deep down")

EDIT: Crap... did this become a "Hot Thread" while I was asleep? because I had 12 quotes here when I woke up... *grumbles*
It's just their way of saying,"I like you, but I'm scared to be alone with you." I feel your pain man.
 

TriggerOnly

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don't be friends ask them out after you start to get the know then a bit then miss/hit if hit see were it goes man
 

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Story of my motherfucking life. For some reason I always skip immediately into the friend zone (except for one case, which was fun, but ended horribly), regardless of how I meet the girl. I don't understand it.

But the thing is, we actually do end up great friends. In a way, I should count myself lucky. Because of this I've gotten close to more than a few girls, and found out that I'd probably be better off just friends with them anyway, rather than getting close and screwing it up.

I do miss having a girlfriend, though.
 

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Siberian Relic said:
WOPR said:
"...anyone would be very lucky to have you"
I've heard that one a few times now. It's quite funny to hear.
Seconded, it starts to become wierdly predictable...

And, no, because anyone who's said I'm like a brother has been my bestfreind and majority of people who listed good things I've been out with.
 

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My friend learned I had a crush on her and I got "That would be weird" she always says how I'm like her brother.

I'm pretty sure brothers don't have thoughts like mine about her. -_-
 

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Well, as a girl I'm in that situation right now - a male co-worker likes me but I only like him as a friend. As of such I will say so whenever he gets around to asking me on a date; he's my friend, I care about him, but that doesn't mean I'm obliged to say yes just to not hurt his feelings. :/

If a girl says she only likes you as a friend, then she means it. It's not a sort of "card" she can use to fob you off; if she's genuinely not interested, what's the point of stringing you along?

EDIT: God, reading some of the previous comments makes me wonder if we've gotten out of the Stone Age yet. GIRLS ARE PEOPLE. TALK TO US LIKE WE ARE PEOPLE, AND WE WILL RESPOND TO THAT. Yes, some girls like jerks, but they are not the majority and tend to be jerks themselves. God. I know there was a book that said we were from Venus but I think the guy meant it as an allegory, guys. :|
 

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bahumat42 said:
GiantRaven said:
Gah I hate this general attitude! It implies that it is impossible for people of two different genders to just be goddamn friends.

I had an incredibly good friend in college who was female. She thought my being single sucked and even went out of her way to try and find someone for me (this failed hilariously). She also wasn't the slightest bit interested in having a relationship with me just as I was not interested in pursuing one with her.

Why is this strange? Where is the logic in suggesting that if a girl thinks you would make someone a good boyfriend it should be her?

edit: Also there appears to be the implication that only girls will 'friendzone' someone. Does that mean guys will go out with anyone that shows the slightest bit of interest in them?
No it means guys don't friendzone people. If we want to be with someone, chances are in six months time we will have no problem being asked out by said person. Yes thats generalized. But from experience only females friendzone people.
So in essence, yes, guys will go out with anyone that shows the slightest bit of interest in them?
 

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GiantRaven said:
So in essence, yes, guys will go out with anyone that shows the slightest bit of interest in them?
Desperate guys will go out with anything that moves, yeah, because they can't know when it'll be the next time they'll be lucky and get pussy again. They have a scarcity mentality, so they take what passes by easy.

Those of us who aren't and have an abundance mentality will show a bit more selection than that, at least for longer-term relationship material, though we do not have lists in the back of our mind. I have a few traits that I know would make me attracted and interested for something more meaningful, and I screen out women according to my needs and preferences. Of course, if my aim is just to get laid, I screen way larger.

That said, we are instinctively and biologically wired to see, under three seconds, whether we want to get laid with a woman and render her pregnant or not. Attraction is that strong in us males.
 

NorthernTrooper

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If you become just friends with them than obviously they're going to pull the friend card.

What you need to do is be friendly and act interested! Interested is the key word here, because if they don't know that you want a relationship with them, why wouldn't they pull the friend card after a few months? They don't want to ruin a good friendship, and it makes sense.
 

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Flare Phoenix said:
WOPR said:
Flare Phoenix said:
Any girl who lists reasons why they would so obviously want you, and then follows it with a declaration that they don't want you even though you never asked them if they did want you is a presumptious *****.
I did tell them I like them
then they go into that long rant
and it has happened EVERY time
...friends or not
and if we weren't friends we become friends from it

so what have I learned?

Tell the girl you like here and you're friends for life
Well then maybe the problem is with you. I don't know, but bitching to a group of strangers on the internet isn't going to help matters. Why do people think there is some magical solution out there to get girls that they just were never taught... like there was a "How to get Girls 101" lesson in school they somehow missed?
Asking for advice can come from any median, and why not from a place where he feels he can speak to people of like mind? So calm the fuck down.

However, I do agree with you on one thing, it probably is him.

OP: You just need to stop being so buddy buddy with them. Women have a tendancy to categorize guys into two groups pretty quick... dudes they will be intimate with, and dudes they won't. And jumping from the won't category into the will category is a tough one. You just need to change the way you interact with them from the beginning, and there are tons and tons of places online you can get an example from, there are even quite a few threads on this site that discuss these things. Just do some research.
 

HentMas

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Mcupobob said:
Flare Phoenix said:
You need to find a different group of girls...
This^ Also don't become friends with a girl and become emotionally involved. Just let them know that your interested in a relationship right of the bat, its more honest and less desperate that way.
yeah, most of the time when i want to date someone i dont go "hi! let me get to know you, tell me your secrets!, i want to be your friend"

i go "Hey there, you are cute/sexy/hot/awesome/nice/pretty (choose which applyes) would you like a beverage of your choize while i try to make you my girlfriend?"

literally

if they laugh you just won half the battle, and can continue with "yeah, i really like you lets date some time"
if they dont, "woah, chill girl, i´m just making chit chat, see ya!" and then leave them, they are not worth your time, and probably are closed in everything else, including emotions, and sex.

from 100 girls you pick up like that at least 5 will say "ok"

its a matter of numbers man, the point is "Never give up, never surrender" and they say "confidence" is the weapon of winners, just be confident and there is your girl!

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WOPR said:
...Just wondering

Being a site of nerds (I mean that in a good way) I'm wondering if any of you have had this situation

Being the cuddly, shy, kindhearted souls we are (well some of us are *cough*)

Why is it that EVERY girl I have ever talked to... goes like this...

"I like you, you're nice, funny, kind, and anyone would be very lucky to have you"
(quickly followed up by)
"...but we're JUST friends, okay?"
(2/3 of the time)
"You're like a brother to me..."

...soo am I the only one that wonders "well if all that is true why doesn't anyone try to give me a chance instead of pulling the 'friend' card every time?"

sorry starting to rant

In Short: Has anyone else had this situation?

(and yeah it ticks me off that after all that stuff they say they go out with a total dick saying "I can change him, he's nice deep down")

EDIT: Crap... did this become a "Hot Thread" while I was asleep? because I had 12 quotes here when I woke up... *grumbles*
its because " i could never ever imagine to be in a sexual relationship with you " sounds way more rude then "every other one would be lucky with you"

i personally was never in that situation. because i think i am quite good at reading the friend-zone signs, so i just don't go further if i see them.
may be a pity sometimes, but it wont work with that one, pick another.
 

HentMas

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quiet_samurai said:
jumping from the won't category into the will category is a tough one.
i agree with almost anything but this one, its not a "tough one" its near impossible, because from the start most guys (at least the nice ones) get close being carefull, while in my experience, the guys that jump head first are the ones that get the girl

now, the OP has many girls that are his friends?? THEN YOU HAVE AN ADVANTAGE NO ONE ELSE HAVES!!, ask her to hook you up, she wond mind and she will help, that is one of the steps to get out of the "friends" zone, once she sees you as a "catch" not hers, but for someone else, she will start to think differently of you, and get jealous because you are with someone else

it happens

i assure you it happens.