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Madara XIII

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tahrey said:
I don't always buy used games, but when I do, I buy classics that I missed first time round, for like £10 / $15. Also works well as a christmas/birthday present gambit if I know someone who missed said game but always wanted to play it.
You sir are most definitely the World's most interesting gamer
 

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CM156 said:
segataDC said:
Remember that not a single penny goes to the developers and you're only making gamestop richer.
You're right. It doesn't.

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Your point? I mean, that's kinda how used products work. Did they, or did they not get paid the first time the game sold?

Yes? That's it, then.
no the point is that when someone buys the game used, that person has just avoided paying for it new and they lose a potential future customer. not that i care but you seem to have misinterpreted the problem.
 

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CM156 said:
I think he got it from the department of "Shit I just made up"
HEY! Yahtzee and I shop in that department every now and then XD
Nah sorry, couldn't help but remember that review when you said that.

Either way that's what I'm guessing. Nothing wrong buying used. Especially that's the only way you can ever find a good Copy of Devil May Cry 1 and 3

I remember getting 3 as I grabbed that beautiful gemstone surrounded by the numerous unwanted copies of Devil May Cry 2.

I literally found a Diamond in the rough :D
 

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stefman said:
CM156 said:
segataDC said:
Remember that not a single penny goes to the developers and you're only making gamestop richer.
You're right. It doesn't.

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Your point? I mean, that's kinda how used products work. Did they, or did they not get paid the first time the game sold?

Yes? That's it, then.
no the point is that when someone buys the game used, that person has just avoided paying for it new and they lose a potential future customer. not that i care but you seem to have misinterpreted the problem.
That assumes there is a problem in the first place. Which, as I pointed out, there isn't. Legally or ethically.
 

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Sylvine said:
From the dev's standpoint, buying used games is only slightly better than piracy. No arguing about it.

Why slightly? Because chances are pretty good that the money gotten from selling a used game will be going towards buying a new game. However, it's not a guarantee, and it's even less of a chance that the money from selling the square game will go into another square game.

So if You're buying used, You're basically pirating it. The fact that one thing is legal and the other is not does not matter much; it's about whether it's legit or not. The fact that You "support Your retailer" doesn't matter much; You could just as easily argue someone who buys pirated games (as those used to be sold in the olden days...) supports his local pirates. After all, they have to eat, too. No merit in that one. Edit: Again, from the developer's standpoint.

If You buy used because You can't afford new, You really might as well download it. In the end, it's probably BETTER for the industry if You download 3 games and buy one new for $60 instead of buying 4 used for $15 each.

Live with it, or stop doing it.

~Sylv
Can you see us from that pedestal? You seem to be pretty high. The used game industry is a basic consumer right, piracy is theft.
 

Madara XIII

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stefman said:
CM156 said:
segataDC said:
Remember that not a single penny goes to the developers and you're only making gamestop richer.
You're right. It doesn't.

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Your point? I mean, that's kinda how used products work. Did they, or did they not get paid the first time the game sold?

Yes? That's it, then.
no the point is that when someone buys the game used, that person has just avoided paying for it new and they lose a potential future customer. not that i care but you seem to have misinterpreted the problem.
Not to be an ass, but the same can be said for a used car dealership. Just because I didn't buy a new Volvo from them, but instead bought a used one from a dealership that mostly speaks spanish doesn't necessarily make me a bad person because I don't have the moolah to pay for one fresh out the company's bumhole

Same goes with games. I JUST DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE to buy every game I want in a new condition. It's not a crime, it's being fiscally responsible when I want a few hours of electronic entertainment.

Don't get me wrong I don't buy EVERY game used, because God forbid I actually make a sub-microscopic dent in the wallet of a developer. There are just some games that I don't see worth the full $60 or just some games I can't get any other way....especially GOOD PS2 games. Hell I'm proud of myself I didn't buy MW2 when it first came out, because disappointment hit harder than Yahtzee's words to a piece of paper.

What I'm trying to say is that not everyone has to buy the game New and shouldn't be chastised because they're not supporting the developers EVERYTIME, ALL THE TIME.
 

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Also this makes a lot of good points, and saves me time from talking/thinking too hard.
http://www.myspace.com/video/ne/zero-originality-episode-1-it-39-s-not-stealing-it-39-s-borrowing/42723261
So in short fuck gamestop.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
Wow, one example, that's real conclusive.

-Used games are often cheaper than the alternative,
-Used games benefit the used retailer, so it's not piracy (because I like the used retailer),
-It's easier to find old games in trade-in stores.
This one is especially relevant to me as a shop nearby has games going all the way back to the NES, but including SNES, Gameboy (original!), MegaDrive, Dreamcast, and a rather large collection of some classic and much sought after PS1 titles.

So yeah, I'll support them. I have no qualms about money not going to the developer if I buy Used from them.
T-T we had a shop like that in my town, i miss it T-T.

to the OP: i have a collection, of PS2 games, cause those are still good, and I'd sooner sacrifice my PS3 to the Chaos Gods then give up on my PS2 and those titles.

the problem as i see it is, they're focusing to much on making quick cash grab titles, and less on what i would call quality games, there for nothing worth really keeping after a play through.

but what do i know, I've only been gaming for 25 years
 

Triaed

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So all you are saying is "do some price research before you buy so that you don't overpay"
... duh!

(I wonder how that relates to "buying used games is stupid")
 

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segataDC said:
Kids nowadays don't like to keep their games and build a collection, they game, sell and trade games on a regular basis. Shops like gamestop are taking advantage of this circular cycle to rip off the costumer. Charging 50$ multiple times on a single copy.

Is it really worth buying a used copy of la noire, deus ex or resistance 3 for 53$? Remember that not a single penny goes to the developers and you're only making gamestop richer.

You guys have several options that are better, imo, like Amazon or other on-line shops. For example European consumers can go to Amazon.co.uk a buy deus ex for 15,99 pounds, that's 25 dollars!
The limited edition of dark souls costs 43?, any physical shop near me wont sell it for less than 60/70?(new or used).

And I'm sure that, regardless of what country you live in, you can find better and more economic solutions on-line.

I think that used games can be a good thing, for example I just bought msg2 and msg3 for 15?, but when it comes to recent ip's I think you should search for options that not only benefit your wallet but also contribute to the industry.

but if you prefer to spend 50 dollars on a used game, that's up to you.
whatever floats your boat...
I really wanted to argue the point here, but rereading your post just makes me sigh hopelessly.

Instead I'm going you question your intelligence and then point out that
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP DE DERP, YOU BOUGHT MGS2 AND 3 USED, NOW YER STEALING MONEY FROM KONAMI CUZ THEIR ABOUT 2 RELEESE MGS HD COLLEKSHUN!

Starting to see why your point doesn't make sense yet?

Reexamine your post, tighten up your logic, come back with a more concrete idea of what you're on about, and then we can discuss the merits of a used games industry
 

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Madara XIII said:
stefman said:
CM156 said:
segataDC said:
Remember that not a single penny goes to the developers and you're only making gamestop richer.
You're right. It doesn't.

...

Your point? I mean, that's kinda how used products work. Did they, or did they not get paid the first time the game sold?

Yes? That's it, then.
no the point is that when someone buys the game used, that person has just avoided paying for it new and they lose a potential future customer. not that i care but you seem to have misinterpreted the problem.
Not to be an ass, but the same can be said for a used car dealership. Just because I didn't buy a new Volvo from them, but instead bought a used one from a dealership that mostly speaks spanish doesn't necessarily make me a bad person because I don't have the moolah to pay for one fresh out the company's bumhole


Same goes with games. I JUST DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE to buy every game I want in a new condition. It's not a crime, it's being fiscally responsible when I want a few hours of electronic entertainment.

Don't get me wrong I don't buy EVERY game used, because God forbid I actually make a sub-microscopic dent in the wallet of a developer. There are just some games that I don't see worth the full $60 or just some games I can't get any other way....especially GOOD PS2 games. Hell I'm proud of myself I didn't buy MW2 when it first came out, because disappointment hit harder than Yahtzee's words to a piece of paper.

What I'm trying to say is that not everyone has to buy the game New and shouldn't be chastised because they're not supporting the developers EVERYTIME, ALL THE TIME.
Like i said, i don't really care. I buy both new and used so i get the best of both worlds. I just don't get how people get so up in arms over this when we do it to practically every other product. Hell, Kijiji and Ebay are basically made to sell used items.
 

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If other people want to sell their games, that's their own business. I sell some of my games. The ones I didn't like very much and know I'll never want to play again. Why keep a collection of those when I can sell them and get more money to spend on games I will like and want to keep in a collection?

And if I can get a great deal on a used copy in good condition (usually of an older game), why shouldn't I? Not all used sales are bad. Sometimes buying used is smart. It's just generally not so at GameStop when you could get the new game for just $5 more.
 

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kiri2tsubasa said:
*sigh* Another topic about used games and inevitably the topic of used cars come up.

The used car analogy that people seem to love to use is wrong in how it is typically presented. If you are going to present it then this is a bit more accurate of a description.

If you buy a car used, you get what you get and nothing else. Ohh, the radio doesn't work/sucks, well you have to shell out money to get it repaired/replaced. The clock doesn't work, well that will have to be repaired. There is something wrong with the engine and it has been shown to be related to wear and tear, well you have to spend money to repair it. Also, depending on where you gt the car from you may or may not get a warranty. Uncle Bob's used cars probably are not likely to get a warranty. BMW Certified Pre-Owned Cars, I think you get a warranty from them.

I can understand how the analogy works though, and to be fair I made an attempt to clarify how the analogy makes sense 2 posts ago. That's probably why people keep making that comparison.
 

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Game trading is the nuts. This year I've had Driver SF swapped for Batman AC and that'll be swapped for Uncharted 3. which'll be traded for Skyrim and then that and Saints Row III will keep me going until Dragons Dogma next year.
In the summer, I can buy all the games back again for feck all.
 

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sometimes used games are cheaper and sometimes people are done with a game and want to make money on stuff they don,t use anyway.
 

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I prefer to by used games, because it saves money, I almost never sell my games. I actually buy used and new if I have the money to do so.