buying used games is stupid
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Oh, knock off the superiority act. Buying games new doesn't put you on a moral high ground. I've bought 8 new games this year and 1 used. I have a friend that is basically the opposite. Guess what? I'm not better than him. Having more money=/=better person.bahumat42 said:
Oh good, this thread again. Could you have sounded more arrogant in your original post, assuming that we're all idiots who've never thought to search the market?
I treat games the same way I do with music: if I know the artist will deliver a solid album, I'll pay, but I wouldn't buy an album by some one-hit wonder that will be the one good single and 13 filler tracks.
Likewise, a game series like Ratchet & Clank which I love, I will get on day of release, because I get the value for my money. On the other hand, paying forty quid for a thirty hour exercise in boredom like Dead Island? Sod that, I borrowed it from a friend.
Here's the point: games are ridiculously expensive. And a lot of them are seriously not worth it. Like, a lot of them.
I bought Guitar Hero 5 and breezed through almost every song on expert in the first day, because the product was ridiculously watered down to appeal to the broadest audience. So now I'm forty quid down and I'm just supposed to live with it?
To hell with that, I took it back to the store with my receipt, used the store credit to get two used games, finished them and traded them in for store credit. I've learned my lesson: I'll never buy a first-hand GH game again.
Ain't even sorry.
I treat games the same way I do with music: if I know the artist will deliver a solid album, I'll pay, but I wouldn't buy an album by some one-hit wonder that will be the one good single and 13 filler tracks.
Likewise, a game series like Ratchet & Clank which I love, I will get on day of release, because I get the value for my money. On the other hand, paying forty quid for a thirty hour exercise in boredom like Dead Island? Sod that, I borrowed it from a friend.
Here's the point: games are ridiculously expensive. And a lot of them are seriously not worth it. Like, a lot of them.
I bought Guitar Hero 5 and breezed through almost every song on expert in the first day, because the product was ridiculously watered down to appeal to the broadest audience. So now I'm forty quid down and I'm just supposed to live with it?
To hell with that, I took it back to the store with my receipt, used the store credit to get two used games, finished them and traded them in for store credit. I've learned my lesson: I'll never buy a first-hand GH game again.
Ain't even sorry.
every used game has already been bought new once. that means that the money from it has already gone to the publishers. is it stupid to buy used cars? is it stupid to buy used books? the game companies only say "we don't get money from used games" because they assume they are entitled to profits made from games regardless. imagine if toyota sued you because you bought one of their cars used. it'd be a worse business decision than their cars with breaks that didn't work.
First off, might I recommend using the shift key for the word "I" and spelling it "Doesn't"? Remember, punctuation saves lives.bahumat42 said:
Second, yes. It is FULLY about who got paid for the thing. Why are video games so special that they need to be treated differently than any other form of media? You are ignoring this. Also, I love your line about not loving gaming. I'm sorry, but what? That reeks of ad hominem.
There is one thing people still overlook when it comes to people that buy used games.
I'll take myself and the people I know as an example.
Now, I don't buy used anymore purely because I only game on my PC and I can get cheap enough games on Amazon.
However.
I did buy used when I had my 360.
The games I got used I had no intention of buying new. If used sales were not around I wouldn't have got the games at all. The developer/publishers would not have made any money out of me at all anyway. The same goes for my friends. We got them used because they were cheap and we thought "why not". No way would have paid full price.
As it stands now I wait a few months after a games released until I see it on Amazon for around £10 or less. It's very rare I will buy a game on release at full price and by the end of this year will only have done so 4 times, Deus Ex, Space Marine, Skyrim and ToR.
Any other game I feel like buying, Batman, Assassins Creed and Saints Row I will get in the January sales or later next year when they are going at a fraction of the price.
I've got no intention at all of buying any other games this year beside Skyrim and ToR. Were I still using my 360 I may have got a few used like Battlefield 3 or MW3 that I otherwise wouldn't have paid for.
May seem like a backwards way to do things but I don't buy games to support the people that make them or i'd buy all my games at full whack. I buy games to entertain myself and pass the time which is why I usually buy them cheap.
I'll take myself and the people I know as an example.
Now, I don't buy used anymore purely because I only game on my PC and I can get cheap enough games on Amazon.
However.
I did buy used when I had my 360.
The games I got used I had no intention of buying new. If used sales were not around I wouldn't have got the games at all. The developer/publishers would not have made any money out of me at all anyway. The same goes for my friends. We got them used because they were cheap and we thought "why not". No way would have paid full price.
As it stands now I wait a few months after a games released until I see it on Amazon for around £10 or less. It's very rare I will buy a game on release at full price and by the end of this year will only have done so 4 times, Deus Ex, Space Marine, Skyrim and ToR.
Any other game I feel like buying, Batman, Assassins Creed and Saints Row I will get in the January sales or later next year when they are going at a fraction of the price.
I've got no intention at all of buying any other games this year beside Skyrim and ToR. Were I still using my 360 I may have got a few used like Battlefield 3 or MW3 that I otherwise wouldn't have paid for.
May seem like a backwards way to do things but I don't buy games to support the people that make them or i'd buy all my games at full whack. I buy games to entertain myself and pass the time which is why I usually buy them cheap.
I agree. I'm quite a hoarder when it comes to digital media. On last count I had in the region of 195 games, ranging from PS1, PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Gamecube, DS and 3DS. This has taken me in the region of 10 to 15 years to build and the vast majority have been used games.Da Orky Man said:
It pains me to let go of any of my games unless, like you said, they are truly terrible. I've been known to buy games back again some years later because I regreted trading them in.
When I pre-order brand new games through Amazon.co.uk, they tend to arrive on the day of release if not the day before. I never have to wait for online puchases, and it's cheaper!Blue Hero said:
Absolutely. Most of my games are pre-owned, either from a local shop or from eBay if they're a little tricky to find. But my love for a lot of games were kick started by picking up a used game completely by chance in a shop. Silent Hill 2 was unknown to me before I discovered it in my local Gamestation. I've never looked back.GundamSentinel said:
Well then why don't you buy games directly from the studio then if you support them so much?bahumat42 said:
Oh wait you can't.
Its like a problem of a misbehaving child, you want to reward them for good behaviour but they never behave so you never reward them.
The vast majority of games aren't worth hanging on to.
At the point where they stop being fun and start being plastic clutter, why would you keep them knowing full well you could save money by trading them against your next purchase?
Used games are big-biz because it's a system that makes sense. It's also the sole reason I go to brick-and-mortar games shops at all.
At the point where they stop being fun and start being plastic clutter, why would you keep them knowing full well you could save money by trading them against your next purchase?
Used games are big-biz because it's a system that makes sense. It's also the sole reason I go to brick-and-mortar games shops at all.
You know you're dealing with an unreasonable nerd when their opening argument is "Kids nowadays! They aren't interested in meticulously hoarding games into a useless egocentric collection!"
I've in inadvertently got a very small collection of PS1 games, games I never play, games no one will ever play again...unless I -sell- them, Otherwise they will simply end up in the trash when I need more space.
I've in inadvertently got a very small collection of PS1 games, games I never play, games no one will ever play again...unless I -sell- them, Otherwise they will simply end up in the trash when I need more space.
Was that a meme reference? It fit so naturally I couldn't tell...tahrey said:
OT: Shall we not feed the trolls? He claimed stores sell used games full price, gave one shitty example and then used a string of disjointed logic. The trademark warped grin here can be seen from space, me thinks.