Call Of Duty 7... VIETNAM!?!?!
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does sound better then another WW2 game, but couldn't they just make one from like befor WW2, like WW1 or the USA civl war?tomany2 said:
Oh right... err... OK?vento 231 said:
Haha, I don't have a problem with it either (I've seen but not played). I was just saying that the controversy generated by that was (as usual) rather pointless and a little misinformed.
Doing a reconstruction of My Lai is in a completely different league.
I dont know what i think... i mean, as long as there pulling away from all of that WW II stuff, i think people are getting a little sick of kill Nazis. But there are not that many Vietnam war games out. So it might be worth checking out.
I'm only interested if I get to shoot BOTH women AND children. None of that hackneyed either or crap!
mhmm the war-er, conflict is ripe with materialtomany2 said:
after seeing what treyarch did with ww2 (very nice gritty dramatic scenes), the ones in vietnam could be even more traumatic lol (and for the record, it's war and both sides were guilty of gruesome acts)
Ok... I hope someone at Treyarch is listening because I think there isn't much interest in a Vietnam FPS. There is some curiosity over whether it will suck or not, and whether it is even possible because of the nature of the conflict (wasn't it an early COD where it was wonderful up until the sniper level?). What I AM hearing is:
1. The cold war has some great material for "Army of One" FPS material. That means everything Agiel7 said above. I agree, that all sounds great and I would love the history lesson along with the geography one.
2. If we do have to play in Vietnam, let us play charley. This isn't out of self hatred (I'm applying to JAG and would be 3rd generation army) but they would be better FPS protagonists.
3. Just give us Zombies! That is what set you apart from IW and every other FPS out there! Ok, so it was a mod, but the story behind its creation [http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/12/03/call-of-duty-nazi-zombie-mode/] was great:
Someone made the Zombie Bunker level on his spare time with the influence of tower defense games. They loved it so much they kept adding features. Eventually they threw it in as a bonus level. We loved it so much you kept throwing us more of it with DLC.
LISTEN UP TREYARCH!!! Don't you understand? That is how the best games are made! People program a game THEY WANT TO PLAY, not a game they think the market will buy. You did just that and it was great. Oh... and keep it with zombies, not VC acting like zombies. The co-op MW2 missions were nice but not nearly as cool as Nazi Zombies.
Another note - I think the second biggest problem with Vietnam games, besides the narrative, was technological boundaries. Until a few years ago FPS's had to be a dude running through tubes like a hamster (which really reminds me of Bioshock). I don't know how they could make a jungle really work. I still don't know. WaW had some decent jungle but it will still feel artificial with rock-hard ferns blocking you.
1. The cold war has some great material for "Army of One" FPS material. That means everything Agiel7 said above. I agree, that all sounds great and I would love the history lesson along with the geography one.
2. If we do have to play in Vietnam, let us play charley. This isn't out of self hatred (I'm applying to JAG and would be 3rd generation army) but they would be better FPS protagonists.
3. Just give us Zombies! That is what set you apart from IW and every other FPS out there! Ok, so it was a mod, but the story behind its creation [http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/12/03/call-of-duty-nazi-zombie-mode/] was great:
Someone made the Zombie Bunker level on his spare time with the influence of tower defense games. They loved it so much they kept adding features. Eventually they threw it in as a bonus level. We loved it so much you kept throwing us more of it with DLC.
LISTEN UP TREYARCH!!! Don't you understand? That is how the best games are made! People program a game THEY WANT TO PLAY, not a game they think the market will buy. You did just that and it was great. Oh... and keep it with zombies, not VC acting like zombies. The co-op MW2 missions were nice but not nearly as cool as Nazi Zombies.
Another note - I think the second biggest problem with Vietnam games, besides the narrative, was technological boundaries. Until a few years ago FPS's had to be a dude running through tubes like a hamster (which really reminds me of Bioshock). I don't know how they could make a jungle really work. I still don't know. WaW had some decent jungle but it will still feel artificial with rock-hard ferns blocking you.
Man, this is not going to go well. 'Nam's pace was decided mostly by the Vietnamese, because they were fighting a guerilla war against the American military. Any accurate Vietnam game would feature an awful lot of unexpected deaths from people you couldn't possibly have seen. Sounds like fun, right? Hah
(Oh, and dealing with malfunctioning M16s would certainly add an interesting element of tension into things.)
(Oh, and dealing with malfunctioning M16s would certainly add an interesting element of tension into things.)
i would rather play a game where the machine gun is overpowered than a game full of M16 ,FAMMAS,and campers lots and lots of campers.AndyFromMonday said:
i dont see very many campers on WAW at all besides NAZI ZOMBIES IS AWESOME TOO.
It's not that it doesn't happen, it's the fact that it is not publicized, and when it is publicized everyone makes a huge fuss out of making it an example. We can be nearly 100% sure that the Nazi's committed obscene crimes against the Jews, but no game designer is going to be dumb enough to show the massacre of innocent children in their game, and unless Treyarch is asking for e-suicide and massive lawsuits, neither are they in their newest title.Floppertje said:
Yeah, MW2 has a lot of campers. I've encountered them in Call of Duty 4 but in no way as prevalent like in MW2.sabercrusader said:
The machine gun is the ONLY effective weapon in WaW. Long range + close range. Also, don't say there are no campers in WaW because that would be a plain out lie.
By the way, ever heard of Left 4 Dead? Yeah, it's a game based around killing zombies. Hint, hint!
I don't know how they could make a jungle really work. I still don't know. WaW had some decent jungle but it will still feel artificial with rock-hard ferns blocking you.
They could ask Crytek to help with the jungle, they seem to have a big stiffy for all things green.
They could ask Crytek to help with the jungle, they seem to have a big stiffy for all things green.
Floppertje said:
well i didn't really think WaW was that good (but lets not start a flame war over that im just voicing my opinion) but what i meant about not guessing how its gonna end is i don't really know many major battles or events in the war, thats whats probably gonna surprise me. i think we all know how it ended.