Call of Duty belongs in WW2. This "Modern" "Black opps " stuff is more Bond than it needs to be.

[Christopher Roberts]

Here we go...

This "bond crap" has done more for the series than any of that World War nonesense. You can take your M1 Garand. Me, I'll take an M16 and an attack helicopter. We shall meet on the battlefield and see who comes out the victor.

 

[Kitteh]

How bout CoD just cover every war they can think of? They could have CoD: Gulf War, or CoD: Korea, or CoD: 7 Years War!

 

[Nouw]

There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.

I beg to differ, show me a game that has you playing as a Jewish freedom fighter or a person similar to Anne Frank.

Well, there was French Freedom fighter with that one game that kinda sorta failed hard. Can't recall what it was...

Oh right, The Saboteur. Wasn't too great.


Playing an Anne Frank FPS?

Well, I got nothin.

There is much more to WW2 than carrying a gun and shooting people, so just remember that it's a very broad subject.

You could pilot a submarine for example!

 

[Aesir23]

Personally I rather like the new direction. Not that WWII wasn't exciting. But we've had so many WWII games where you play as X American/British soldier that it's bloody tiring. Out of the CoD WWII games, WaW, CoD2 and CoD3 were my favourites. Why?

1: Different nationalities for once. I loved the Russian campaign in WaW, and actually being able to play Canadians for once (CoD3, though technically we were still under British rule at the time) was exceptionally nice.
2: D-Day in CoD2, I am abnormally fascinated with that battle.

Anyway, while I do like the trend going at the moment. I won't complain about going back to WWII as long as we see some different nationalities aside from the standard American/British.

 

[Adam Galli]

While i loved COD doing WW2, the brothers in arms games are so much better in my opinion because it focuses on ONE squad and thier trials and tribulations during the invasion of normandy and operation market garden. I like the one squad idea which is why i think big red one is the best WW2 COD. Also, personally i like COD Modern Warfare/ MW2 much better than the WW2 stuff because lets face it, WW2 has been done too much. I think its a nice change... for now until there are 1000s of "modern" war games on the market.

 

[Netrigan]

There is literally nothing left for WW2 to cover. The big battles have been done at least three times over, and the brief expansion into the covert parts of the war ended pretty quickly.

Leave it in Modern. Next trend is future.

It would be interesting to see them go off the beaten track in a WWII game. While the major campaigns have been done to death, there's all sorts of facets that are relatively ignored. While not a Call Of Duty concept, I find the Huricat fascinating. It was a Hurricane fighter modified to launch off of a freighter doing the Artic supply run to the Soviets. Once launched, the pilot had one of two options: ditch in the freezing ocean or use his extremely limited fuel to make a run for a Soviet landing strip, hopefully not being shot down by a Soviet plane, which usually didn't have radios.

The point being is that there are all sorts of amazing things that happen in wars as people make do with what they have. Many of these things are too low key to inspire a movie or book, so they kind of get forgotten about, but I think the set pieces of a video game could bring some of these stories to a larger audience.

Switching wars did you know that the U.S. Civil War wasn't the blue & grey affair it's always shown in movies. There were all sorts of uniforms including red & blue fezz number. Imagine getting your ass handed to you by a soldier wearing a fezz.

 

[sharpe95th]

I don't think it's necessarily a problem inherent in setting games in a modern military context, it's the attempts at making things super badass that have got in the way of what made the series cool. It's gotten away from the whole no-one fights alone regular guy ethos of the first games which felt much more grounded and more enjoyable, infiltrating a magic submarine base might be great for Roger Moore to do in a Bond film but let's be honest it was just as much fun to do something as comparitivly simple as attacking a farmhouse in CoD2 or escorting a tank through narrow streets in CoD4. The problem with MWII and Black Ops is that all the misisons felt so disjointed in an attempt to out badass itself at every turn, breaking flow to be talked at by Rhevnoz, fly that godawfull Blackbird mission, do a dull forced sniping section, or to do a boring QTE every 5 minutes broke the flow. Even the multiplayer feels far too busy with Harrier Jump Jets and magic miniguns falling from the sky every 3 seconds. The series doesn't necessarily have to go back to WWII it needs to go back to focussing on regular soldiers with grounded senarios and away from all this action man style rubbish.

 

[Tharwen]

Try playing Battlefield. I know the singleplayer is still focussed on special ops missions and the like, but the multiplayer is designed around making you feel like you're one part of a massive battle.

Seriously, have you seen the new DLC maps for Bad Company 2? Heavy metal is easily the most epic multiplayer map I've ever seen in a game.

 

[CheckD3]

I like the MW stuff (at least CoD4) because it gave us something new, and I'm a sucker for new things, even if they're bland at the end. We've got enough shitty WW2 battles and have probably seen more time on the beach than the real soldier did in video games...

I haven't played BO much yet, but the fact that it's going to Vietnam does intrigue me, and I still like the online in it. But the problem with franchises is that they move away from innovation once they realize that something sells, and then the series gets blander and blander, what was once fresh and excited is old and stale and boring...but the worst part is that it still sells...

 

[Legendairy314]

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Modern shooters have so much room to explore different settings and areas that I don't think WW2 can really compete. Picking up the same weapon and doing the same thing over and over again can and will appeal to some people but for the majority of gamers out there you have to switch up the formula or risk losing sales (which is why they left WW2 in the first place).

I love the variation that the past CoDs have given us. I've never really seen the appeal in being a grunt in the army. Being one of the more specialized soldiers with much more interesting missions than "go here, kill guys for x minutes, big explosions" is just more fun and entertaining for me. All ghillied up is a testament to how epic killing so few soldiers over time can be.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Big, brutal, chugging modern weapons feel better to me than more rickety old MP40s and Thompsons.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Although my favourite CoD is WaW, I disagree. So long as I enjoy the game I don't care. There's actually very little about CoD that I dislike. Most of the big set-peices I like, the stealthier missions are fun... Very few people on this site seem to like recent CoD games as much as I do.

Provided the game doesn't change it's format entirely I'll still enjoy CoD. I like the formula it's set up for itself. I see no reason why I wouldn't enjoy a futuristic CoD or whatever. I'm immune to over-the-topness (I love Command and Conquer games!).

 

[Geekosaurus]

WWII is boring because you know what's going to happen; whereas a fictional story like Modern Warfare or Black Ops can go somewhere completely different with it.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

There are tons of huge epic battles and you're always accompanied by someone.

So, no... Not James Bond at all.

And even if it were, it'd be awesome.

Really though? Revert back to WW2? I thought the WW2 theme held some of the previous games back. Hell, people got tired of WW2 around CoD 3. That's why CoD 4 was so good.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

I liked the historical based missions in the pre mw2 Call of dutys. Even CoD 4 was not overly over the top really.

But after ive snowmobiled over a chasm or halucinated that ive killed JFK then yeah, spectacle has taken over CoD. I wish i felt like i was on a great military expediation as opposed to super secret agent man.

Yeah, pretty much this. I mean [this is going to sound very harsh] did anyone else feel like Modern Warfare 2 didnt have a sole, that it was made just to add onto the Activisoin money pile? Then again, this is probably true considering they then immediately laid off the two leading guys at Infinity Ward right after it was released.

I didnt get the plot of MW2, it just made no sense for me, and i also agree with YZ that it was like some cold war wet dream fantasist wrote it.

EDIT: The thing now is, what the FPS genre now needs is good narrative.

Answer this for me:

Would you play another WW2 game, with similar content [and possibly the same settings] to COD 1, 2, 3, and WaW, MOH Airborne, Allied Assault, and Frontlines, ect. if it had as good a narrative [ story, characters, atmosphere, ect.] as Band of Brothers, Saving Pvt. Ryan, or The Pacific? I sure as hell would.

Didn't they already try that with the Brothers in Arms series? They were ok, but not fantastic.

 

[PhiMed]

Well, I don't really think going back to over-saturating the market with WW2 shooters would be a good thing. There's a reason people were so excited when CoD went non-WW2. There's also a reason WaW didn't sell as well as the two games on either side of it.

We had a five- or six-year period where that and Halo clones were all they were making, FPS-wise. I know we've gone from over-saturating the market with WW2 games to doing the same with tech-based ones, but we've still got a ways to go before we get to the level of market fatigue that we had with WW2 games.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

Personally I rather like the new direction. Not that WWII wasn't exciting. But we've had so many WWII games where you play as X American/British soldier that it's bloody tiring. Out of the CoD WWII games, WaW, CoD2 and CoD3 were my favourites. Why?

1: Different nationalities for once. I loved the Russian campaign in WaW, and actually being able to play Canadians for once (CoD3, though technically we were still under British rule at the time) was exceptionally nice.
2: D-Day in CoD2, I am abnormally fascinated with that battle.

Anyway, while I do like the trend going at the moment. I won't complain about going back to WWII as long as we see some different nationalities aside from the standard American/British.

this, i would love to see some focus on the australians, like for example the rats of tobruk, who faced off against erwin rommel, or the battle for the kokoda track (the latter would make an awesomme survival horror type game, as there would be no more than 200 of you (all conscripts with the bare minimum of training) with very limited resources in the dark calustrophobic hellish jungle facing off against thousands of professionally trained japanese soldiers while dealing with diseases like dysentry, mud and loads upon loads of vertical surfaces)

one other thing i'd like to see is focus on operation dambuster (i think it was called that, you know the operation involving british landcaster bombers flying low to try and rock skip a large bomb at just the right time so it would land at the correct point to blow open 3 dams)

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

World war 2 died out long ago. No one cares about it anymore. Modern is so much better. New guns and new stories as apposed to "yay let's use the THOMPSON AGAIN and fight nazis!"

How is that any different to "yay! lets use the m16 to take out that tank! and kill terrorists"