Call of Duty Black Ops...what to expect?

[Vanguard_Ex]

It is gonna be all the same as before.

Different time setting and different war, so by extention different weapons...oh and the Vietnam War was an epic failure on America's part, so, for once it isn't an encounter where it's won by the glorious shining heroes. What's going to be the same?

Guaranteed they find a way to make light of the heroics and drown out the failure in the plot.

Eh I guess WaW with slightly different weapons and setting is what I'm expecting.

I'm 100% willing to back you on that.
"Turns out Agent Orange was perfectly harmless, the Vietnamese staged the burnings because they wanted to make the rest of the world hate America!"

Or, you know, something.

Well I assume they will not mention agent orange and put the burnings down to some natural occurance like a volcano. They may leave the agent orange references out of though perhaps thinking their target audience doesn't know a great deal about the war.

That's actually much more likely. Hell, I bet most of the target audience won't even know why America was there in the first place.

 

[DividedUnity]

Or, you know, something.

Well I assume they will not mention agent orange and put the burnings down to some natural occurance like a volcano. They may leave the agent orange references out of though perhaps thinking their target audience doesn't know a great deal about the war.

That's actually much more likely. Hell, I bet most of the target audience won't even know why America was there in the first place.

Yeah that was kind of the reason I was thinking they are going to try and drown the failure. It's a lot easier if most of your target audience don't know any better. Maybe some players will look up the war out of interest but that is unlikely.

 

[Doclector]

^^^^(I hate quote pyramids)

"And america won the viatnamese war, and the world lived happily ever after..."

 

[darkmushroomm]

I really hope they aren't trying to do something similar to WaW, because in my opinion Treyarch copied COD 4 and somehow made it worse.

 

[CloggedDonkey]

Either MW2 with a new paint job (and a new disrespect for the dead), or something actually good, like WaW with a new paint job (and a new disrespect for the dead). Either way, it's just another one of the same games with a new paint job and a disrespect for the dead.

 

[Humble85]

If it doesn't have zombies, I probably won't get it... It'd be cool if they were Nazi Zombies, but Viet-Cong zombies is also good.

Apparently Treyarch are putting in a Nazi Zombies style game mode

Which will get the gamemode cut out the german release again , and since switzerland gets their copies from there, i wont be able to play it... I want my freaking nazi zombies you goddamn AAAARRRRGH!!!

So, i second the nazi zombies and oppose them as well...

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

If it doesn't have zombies, I probably won't get it... It'd be cool if they were Nazi Zombies, but Viet-Cong zombies is also good.

Apparently Treyarch are putting in a Nazi Zombies style game mode

Which will get the gamemode cut out the german release again , and since switzerland gets their copies from there, i wont be able to play it... I want my freaking nazi zombies you goddamn AAAARRRRGH!!!

So, i second the nazi zombies and oppose them as well...

Aah but you should still hold out hope yet, my dear Humble; Treyarch have said it'll be a Nazi Zombie-style game mode...there's a lot of speculation that it'll actually be more of a Vietcong zombie style game

 

[Humble85]

If it doesn't have zombies, I probably won't get it... It'd be cool if they were Nazi Zombies, but Viet-Cong zombies is also good.

Apparently Treyarch are putting in a Nazi Zombies style game mode

Which will get the gamemode cut out the german release again , and since switzerland gets their copies from there, i wont be able to play it... I want my freaking nazi zombies you goddamn AAAARRRRGH!!!

So, i second the nazi zombies and oppose them as well...

Aah but you should still hold out hope yet, my dear Humble; Treyarch have said it'll be a Nazi Zombie-style game mode...there's a lot of speculation that it'll actually be more of a Vietcong zombie style game

Thank you for your encouragement...but as i recall, it wasnt necessarily only the nazi-part, but all the oh so bad violence and stuff.

OT: actuall, i hope they expand the multiplayer. i liked the perks and the whole progressing-aspect of it. The vehicle sections in WAW were kind of lame, though. Thats why i vote that they come up with something new for the MP, like an infiltration-gamemode, or something. More variety for the MP and not the same old same old.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

If it doesn't have zombies, I probably won't get it... It'd be cool if they were Nazi Zombies, but Viet-Cong zombies is also good.

Apparently Treyarch are putting in a Nazi Zombies style game mode

Which will get the gamemode cut out the german release again , and since switzerland gets their copies from there, i wont be able to play it... I want my freaking nazi zombies you goddamn AAAARRRRGH!!!

So, i second the nazi zombies and oppose them as well...

Aah but you should still hold out hope yet, my dear Humble; Treyarch have said it'll be a Nazi Zombie-style game mode...there's a lot of speculation that it'll actually be more of a Vietcong zombie style game

Thank you for your encouragement...but as i recall, it wasnt necessarily only the nazi-part, but all the oh so bad violence and stuff.

OT: actuall, i hope they expand the multiplayer. i liked the perks and the whole progressing-aspect of it. The vehicle sections in WAW were kind of lame, though. Thats why i vote that they come up with something new for the MP, like an infiltration-gamemode, or something. More variety for the MP and not the same old same old.

Ahhh yes, it's all coming back to me now...Germany cracking down on the terrible videogame violence >_>

 

[Doclector]

By the way, it's nice to see so many people liking WaW here, I thought it a shame it was overlooked in the shadow of COD4. I shouldn't imagine it's easy to be treyarch, trying to match up to Modern warfare with only a part of the resources given to infinity ward.

 

[Yagharek]

Hopefully they make some improvements on MW2. Better gun balance, recoil, nerfing the m16, making it so you can't use a sniper as if it's an assult rifle.

Not getting my hopes up because:

1. MW2 had a chance to improve on these things from cod4, and imo didn't. Probably for the next reason.
2. They want the game to sell well. A lot of features(such as the noob-tube in MW2) make the game more accessible. People get into it easier because they don't have to be as good to do well.
3. A lot of the features I hope won't be there have been there for three games now.

But who knows. Maybe they'll decide it's going to sell well on the 4 player part anyhow, so ditch all the annoying features in the multiplayer. Maybe.

On the topic of the plot, I would be surprised if they make it very pro-american. What do you think would sell better, American saves the world 7, or "Gritty and realistic" war game 7. I doubt you'll be comitting attrocities, but I doubt we'll get a game that's really pro-american.

 

[Apocalypse Tank]

What I dont understand is how everyone still expect Black Ops to break new boundaries.
Treyarch have only brought 2 MINOR improvements to Call of Duty:
1. survival mode
2. new classes for prestiges

Compared to what Infinity Ward has done:
1. perks/ create a class system
2. killstreaks
3. customizable killstreaks
4. Taking the game to the modern era/ captain price

The sad thing is, Black Ops might be the last for CoD, considering how many members IW is losing over that legal case.

 

[0p3rati0n]

NO ZOMBIES! I swear I hate how people have an expectation for it. It was only in one game! MW2 didn't copy them and people expected "Alien terrorists."

 

[Ctrl Alt 1337]

I expect maps. Lots and lots of downloadable maps.

Also, the torque bow will probably become the next noob weapon.

 

[DalekJaas]

I do not care what anyone says, CoD WaW was my first CoD game and I loved it. I have 4 and MW2 now and I think IW fails so whatever Treyarch dish up to me I am buying.

 

[Enemy Of The State]

Reznov (The Russian Sgt. from W@W) returns, so it is said. If he is, I'm buying.

 

[Yagharek]

Never really cared much about the characters in WaW. In Cod4(in particularly the SAS missions) you were in a small group, who stayed close together. They seemed to say more too, talking about tactics, where to go, how you would proceed etc, which seemed to be less noticeable in all but a very few levels in WaW. It was more noticeable in MW2 than WaW, though the over the top plot didn't help. The thing that made me enjoy cod4 was that while you did end up saving the world I suppose, the whole game didn't feel like a quest to save the world. Most of the missions until quite late in the game were on a smaller scale, which made them a lot more interesting.

In WaW, some of my indifference towards the characters is probably caused by the AI. I remember for example, a trench lined by men on my team, up which several german soldiesr would consistently be allowed to run, ignored, and likeise ignoring all the men who they ran past to attack me...

 

[silver wolf009]

Zombies. Millions and millions of zombies. Everywhere. Other than that some balanced gameplay.