Calling all steam haters!!

[zhemis]

Steam sucks ass. Great deals on games released ages ago are misleading because steam says released just today! Woo! Liars!! It's not worth 10$, it doesn't work outside DOSbox normally.

Steam servers shut down or become unavailable alot. Achievements get lost or broken. Games that don't need updated get updated all the time. *Sync'ed* even tho I have that turned off...

I use steam because for some games you have to, or to hang out with certain friends. The deals are no better than can be found elsewhere on the internet or your local store.

 

[Dr_Steve_Brule]

Steam sucks ass. Great deals on games released ages ago are misleading because steam says released just today! Woo! Liars!! It's not worth 10$, it doesn't work outside DOSbox normally.

Yeah, borderlands+all DLC for just 10.5$ is reaaaally ancient.

Steam servers shut down or become unavailable alot.

No they don't.

Achievements get lost or broken.

No they don't+who cares about achievments?

Games that don't need updated get updated all the time. *Sync'ed* even tho I have that turned off...

Last time that happened to me was about a year ago, and it was with a mod called pirates, vikings and knights (Which started working normally once I reinstalled it)...

I use steam because for some games you have to, or to hang out with certain friends. The deals are no better than can be found elsewhere on the internet or your local store.

Wrong again.
They are the same deals when you live in the US. Where I live, in Israel for example, buying from a retailer can cost you sometimes 20$ more than steam (on release day, that is).
20$ DISCOUNT MAN. Why should I buy anywhere else?

 

[steamweedlegoblin]

. The video game industry has been slower to embrace this, but it will eventually get there. People who can't accept this are like those little old ladies who still pay for everything with cash or checks instead of embracing technological advancement and using a debit card. You don't want to be one of them do you?

You know who also uses money? The mafia. And face it, any mafia, except the Eastern European ones are awesome.
And I've been using cash all year, although that's because of laziness. I accidentally broke my card earlier this year and was too busy working, and too lazy after work to apply for a new one.

And I just like discs overall because of my slow ass internet. And my PS3 isn't going have a store that sells new games in digital format anytime soon. Sure, the PSN store has some good stuff on, I'm not denying that. But the PS3 is not going to be selling new 10gb+ big games anytime soon.
And buying the bigger 10gb+ games on Steam can take up to anywhere to 3 days to download. While buying them on disc would take me and installing them would take 30 minutes, tops.

Hmm. Ok you're right, the mafia is awesome. Touche.

But yeah, you really do need a fast Internet connection to fully take advantage of services like Steam. It only takes me about six hours to download the 12GB games. Since Valve is bringing Steam to the PS3 though, you might actually be able to download those bigger games for your console sooner than you think.

 

[Delusibeta]

And I just like discs overall because of my slow ass internet. And my PS3 isn't going have a store that sells new games in digital format anytime soon. Sure, the PSN store has some good stuff on, I'm not denying that. But the PS3 is not going to be selling new 10gb+ big games anytime soon.

Curse Sony's demand to install MediaGo to get at the web-based PlayStation Store, because I would point out that you're probably wrong on this count.

 

[RanD00M]

But yeah, you really do need a fast Internet connection to fully take advantage of services like Steam. It only takes me about six hours to download the 12GB games. Since Valve is bringing Steam to the PS3 though, you might actually be able to download those bigger games for your console sooner than you think.

And as I said, I take days to install anything big. I still love steam for its handy dandy online service and library of games.

Curse Sony's demand to install MediaGo to get at the web-based PlayStation Store, because I would point out that you're probably wrong on this count.

What the fuck is MedioGo? I've never heard of it.
And I still doubt that Sony is going to use the PSN Store to sell new AAA games.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

I just dont like pc games.

It is impossible to dislike peggle.

Nope, I dont like it

 

[BlackWidower]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

 

[Woodsey]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

 

[SpireOfFire]

i have 4 very good reasons to hate steam:

1. i have the hardware for the game (mafia 2, empire: total war) and they require steam to play? bullshit.
2. im cruising websites, internet works fine and steam says it cant connect to the internet (even when i turn my firewalls and anti-virus off)? bullshit.
3. i cant play games in offline mode? bullshit.
4. i uninstall steam, reinstall steam, and it continues to not work? bullshit.

yeah, i can get a hold of great games at great prices, but this is just extortion. let me play the fucking game i fucking paid money for WITHOUT using ur fucking dumbass program.

i HATE steam.

 

[thepyrethatburns]

I don't know if I count because I don't hate Steam. I just won't use it.

I guess my peeves would be:

It's a draconian form of DRM. Even if you buy the disc, you have to install Steam.

If it ends, so does my access to the games that I bought. Yes, I know Gabe Newell said that, if Steam ever goes under, that they will release a patch that will free the games that you purchased. To date, this claim has not been proven. Being former IT, I can guarantee that people will be too busy looking for jobs to bother writing that patch.

It's already been written. They'd just need like 5 minutes to post it online

And, as I said, this has been proven ...... where now? I'm not talking about what they claim they will/can do. Has there been one "live fire" example where they have proven that they can get this mythical patch out? Obviously, I don't expect Half-Life to be the proof but have they ever done it on a really badly-selling game that noone buys and proven that they can do it?

Or are they just claiming they can?

I think that the main problem is that people sometimes think of steam as purely DRM, when in reality, it much more then that. It lets you buy games online without a hassle, keeps your games backed up in a remote server (enabling you to download and play it from any computer), has AMAZING deals (85% discount? fuck yes), provides you with a community and the ability to create one, has the steam cloud which saves your personal preferences and mods even when you log in from a different machine (and can do much more then that-did you see the new steam cloud based tobox in garry's mod?) and much more. It tries to sweeten DRM as much as it can, and even in the extraordinary case that Valve will ever go out of business, removing this DRM from all of the accounts is relatively easy-all they have to do is decrypt the files via an update and we're done.

For the most part, you just described XBL. In fact, there was a conversation on Gamefaqs where people were asking "what's going to happen to all my XBL stuff when the 720 (or whatever) comes out". A number of people tried to make soothing noises of "there, there. I'm sure they'll move it all over." until I pretty much ruined the party by pointing out what has happened with other services (including the first Live) and ended with "Once Live goes down, then the amount of time that you keep your XBLA games/DLC/Etc is restricted to the life of your console.

I admit that I have bought stuff from XBL but I'm under no illusions of what's going to happen when they shut down the 360's servers. I honestly expect the same from Steam. If you're fine with that, there's no problem. If you're not fine with that, then I believe you're in for a bit of a surprise. That's why I said that I don't hate Steam. I just don't use it.

 

[BlackWidower]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

I don't care, I paid money for it and it was a waste. Besides, I just want it off my account.

 

[Woodsey]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

I don't care, I paid money for it and it was a waste. Besides, I just want it off my account.

You've lost me now.

 

[BlackWidower]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

I don't care, I paid money for it and it was a waste. Besides, I just want it off my account.

You've lost me now.

It's marked on my account that I own both, I don't want that. That's why I hate Steam, it ties you down...to the railroad tracks.

 

[Woodsey]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

I don't care, I paid money for it and it was a waste. Besides, I just want it off my account.

You've lost me now.

It's marked on my account that I own both, I don't want that. That's why I hate Steam, it ties you down...to the railroad tracks.

So it lasts Half-Life twice separately? And both are just HL copies, not one where it's HL and the other is HL in the anthology?

 

[BlackWidower]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

I don't care, I paid money for it and it was a waste. Besides, I just want it off my account.

You've lost me now.

It's marked on my account that I own both, I don't want that. That's why I hate Steam, it ties you down...to the railroad tracks.

So it lasts Half-Life twice separately? And both are just HL copies, not one where it's HL and the other is HL in the anthology?

Well not in the games library but...you know what, forget it. It just pisses me off that I wasted the money.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

It annoys me that I'm forced to install it...

If I buy a disc copy of Dawn of War 2 or Empire Total War then I should be able to install and play straight from the disc.

Steam just gets in my way and annoys me. It's drawbacks outweigh it's benfits for me.

Anyway I like GFWL more. Yeah I just said that... and what?

 

[Woodsey]

I wouldn't call it hate. But I do own physical copies of Half-Life, as well as the Half-Life Anthology, which is basically Half-Life and the expansions bundled together.

I would love to give my copy of Half-Life to a friend, but Steam won't let me. But that's just a pet peeve. In reality, I just hate DRMs and I am one who thinks if I'm spending money on something I want to get something physical in return. Not something aetherial.

If you have two copies of HL on Steam then you should be able to gift one across Steam (right click on the game icon in steam).

Yeah, you're thinking of the Orange Box. The little gift feature isn't available for all games.

Huh, thoughtnyou could with any games that doubled up. Oh well, it's only like £5 for HL.

I don't care, I paid money for it and it was a waste. Besides, I just want it off my account.

You've lost me now.

It's marked on my account that I own both, I don't want that. That's why I hate Steam, it ties you down...to the railroad tracks.

So it lasts Half-Life twice separately? And both are just HL copies, not one where it's HL and the other is HL in the anthology?

Well not in the games library but...you know what, forget it. It just pisses me off that I wasted the money.

I'm still lost as to how you wasted money.

I'm assuming you didn't buy the HL collection first, then HL by itself. In which case you must have done the same as me where you already owned HL2 and then bought the Orange Box. You'd have still got a discount so it'd still have been worth it.

 

[BRex21]

brunothepig you totally missed the point, i have a slow connection, but it works... I can play any online game you care to throw at me but i can't maintain them if they are on steam. Most games i have bought on steam i end up pirating after i get sick of the patches and this recent Mac update managed to push that pretty close to the 100% mark. Its not the connection itself or the games demands that frustrate me its steams relentless need to suck down bandwidth.
also i successfully downloaded Civ Warlords and Beyond the sword FASTER on Bit Torrent than steam.