Can a lightsaber cut through adamantium??

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Adamantium, or Mandalorian Iron? Which is stronger? Because even a lightsaber will cut through Beskar after a while.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Christ, calm down. This is an argument over the qualities of things from the Star Wars and the Marvel universes, which have the most convoluted and heavily retconned continuitys in existence. Arguing over the little details of what is and isn't canon is kind of the point here. And we love it.
Well, then I'll say that the LIGHTsabre is canon, and not the "plasma contained in a forcefield" (an equally ridiculous concept). After all, the LIGHTsabre was there first so it wins by rank of seniority.

And as discussions go, im not really obliged to adhere to arguments about this saying that "George Lucas changed his mind". Because if we're gonna go with the whimiscal ideas of that man, then pretty much anything goes and will be just as valid as anything else.

Still, I resent the Star Wars franchise a lot. Then again, im not too fond of Marvel either, but at least Marvel has pretty much been the same thing since it started. Star Wars was decent (because good actors and decent scriptwriting held it afloat) but ultimately fell from grace because George Lucas got way too full of himself.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Blights said:
Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
Look up the swords in KOTOR. lightsabers can't cut through them.
yes but good sir you fail to notivce that it is a game and when any old body gets a lightsaber that does what's originally described nothing would stay standing it was those moments of hacking up transdoshin thugs with savage metal blades and yet we had a fairly decent duel I was liek what the crap so I don't believe KotOR should qualify in this debate
 

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KSarty said:
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Isn't that question pretty much an analogy of the "What happens if an unstoppable force crash with an immovable object?"-question?
Yes, basically. We're talking about a metal that the Hulk can't even scuff.
And yet the Hulk HAS ripped wolverine clear in two and hurled wolvy's legs across to california? * source Ultimate universe Wolverine Vs. the hulk in a beautiful two page display of wolverine's guts going everywhere.
 

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KSarty said:
PoisonUnagi said:
Well yeah. It'd heat it up and, since adamantium melts, melt the part of it it's touching and cut through. It'd just take a while.
Adamantium doesn't melt though.

Bernzz said:
I'm not really sure, at all.

This does raise an interesting question. If you could slowly cut through Wolverine, would he heal in time? Could a Jedi/Sith ever succeed in a fight with Wolverine?
Technically no. Wolverine has even better plot armor than Luke Skywalker. The old comics maintained that a shot through his eye socket into his brain would still kill him, but that no longer applies. It has happened and he got better. He has actually been reduced to just his skeleton and still healed.

Wolverine's healing factor increases in parallel to his popularity.
one upped he was reduced to a single drop of blood and came back
 

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A lightsaber is made of plasma.

Applying that logic, a lightsaber can -burn- through anything given enough time. Even adamantium.

There's a difference between cutting and burning, a lightsaber doesn't "cut" in the sense of a knife, it technically burns through the victim/object with a plasma-based loop of energy.
 

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A lightsaber is a weapon made out of pure, condensed light. In layman's terms...it's a laser.

Can a laser cut adamantium? ...most likely it can.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Christ, calm down. This is an argument over the qualities of things from the Star Wars and the Marvel universes, which have the most convoluted and heavily retconned continuitys in existence. Arguing over the little details of what is and isn't canon is kind of the point here. And we love it.
Well, then I'll say that the LIGHTsabre is canon, and not the "plasma contained in a forcefield" (an equally ridiculous concept). After all, the LIGHTsabre was there first so it wins by rank of seniority.

And as discussions go, im not really obliged to adhere to arguments about this saying that "George Lucas changed his mind". Because if we're gonna go with the whimiscal ideas of that man, then pretty much anything goes and will be just as valid as anything else.

Still, I resent the Star Wars franchise a lot. Then again, im not too fond of Marvel either, but at least Marvel has pretty much been the same thing since it started. Star Wars was decent (because good actors and decent scriptwriting held it afloat) but ultimately fell from grace because George Lucas got way too full of himself.
Except that, you know, you don't get to decide what's canon since you're not a significant representative of the franchise? And merely calling it a lightsabre doesn't inherently mean it's made of light. It could just be in reference to it's appearance, the fact that it glows or even the fact that it is comparatively light when compared to a regular sabre.

But come on, you really need to relax. The Star Wars franchise has pretty much collapsed under it's own weight so there's nothing really left to do with it except pick out obscure details just for the fun of meaningless arguments.
 

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KSarty said:
crudus said:
Adamantium can melt no matter the canon.
No, it can't. Marvel comics Adamantium can not melt.
Like mister lunatic in the previous page if we are introducing reality to this arguement anything that can be melted once can surly be melted down again... the substacne would change you might have to cook it for longer but from where I'm standing that's logic.
 

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.... welp we know you are an unbiased source of fun factoid information
Again meant for Mr. Lunatic

Also also I forgot to mention GOOO LIGHTSABER WHOO HOO!
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Except that, you know, you don't get to decide what's canon since you're not a significant representative of the franchise? And merely calling it a lightsabre doesn't inherently mean it's made of light. It could just be in reference to it's appearance, the fact that it glows or even the fact that it is comparatively light when compared to a regular sabre.

But come on, you really need to relax. The Star Wars franchise has pretty much collapsed under it's own weight so there's nothing really left to do with it except pick out obscure details just for the fun of meaningless arguments.
Fun trivia: George Lucas actually refered to them as "laser swords" in early development of the first movies. I think that pretty much nails it that they hadn't even begun to think of any "plasma contained in an energy field" shenanigans as their original idea.
 

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Blights said:
Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
I gathered something in the starwars books actually disables lightsabers upon impact. Some rare alloy or something. Another is nearly impervious to it. What are they called? No idea, friend told me about it in a rant.
 

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Kungfu_Teddybear said:
Oreely? http://gizmodo.com/5560206/the-spyder-iii-pro-arctic-is-a-real-life-lightsaber
Thats just a super powerful laser pointer. My dad actually tried buying one and it pretty much turned out to be a scam (according to him). Took his money, never answered e-mails or phone calls, and no uber pointer.
 

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nomad240 said:
one upped he was reduced to a single drop of blood and came back
That happened to Wolverine?

If that's the case, one could wonder if that included the adamantium skeleton as well. I mean the adamantium coating of his bones and the blades and all that aren't a natural part of his biological body after all, but something that got implanted.

A drop of blood doesn't contain any bones, so it shouldn't be able to regenerate an unnatural metal skeleton. But then again, if we're talking Marvel comics, then we're talking Marvel comics...
 

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Blights said:
Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
Yeah, but wasn't there a scene from Star Wars: The phantom menace. Where Obi Wan's Jedi Master (I think his name was Quigon Jin, I could be mistaken) was trying to cut through massive steel doors that some Aliens had put up to protect themselves, and if memory serves me correctly he couldn't slice through it like butter, it actually took time. So according to that movie, some physical substances could hold off a light saber for a certain amount of time.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Except that, you know, you don't get to decide what's canon since you're not a significant representative of the franchise? And merely calling it a lightsabre doesn't inherently mean it's made of light. It could just be in reference to it's appearance, the fact that it glows or even the fact that it is comparatively light when compared to a regular sabre.

But come on, you really need to relax. The Star Wars franchise has pretty much collapsed under it's own weight so there's nothing really left to do with it except pick out obscure details just for the fun of meaningless arguments.
Fun trivia: George Lucas actually refered to them as "laser swords" in early development of the first movies. I think that pretty much nails it that they hadn't even begun to think of any "plasma contained in an energy field" shenanigans as their original idea.
You don't say? I would never have guessed that that's what he was originally thinking. But you're resolutely missing my point so that you can be all grumpy and bitter over it. What George Lucas was originally thinking is irrelevant because it wasn't important at the time. That's because the films were still good and there was no demand for detailed technical speculation. But since then the level of continuity has overflowed and most of the big things that came out of the franchise have gone to shit. So over analysed canon is all we have left, and I'm trying to make the most of it.
 

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it's interesting cuz some Star Wars canon have introduced lightsaber resistant metal...Mandalorians had it for sure

but eh I'm too old to be exploring the Star Wars galaxy, so I'll just stick with IT CUTS THRU EVERYBODY FOO