Can a lightsaber cut through adamantium??

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Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
I gathered something in the starwars books actually disables lightsabers upon impact. Some rare alloy or something. Another is nearly impervious to it. What are they called? No idea, friend told me about it in a rant.
Well, in one book lightsabers fizzle out when the blade comes into contact with water. Not sure if that's what your friend was ranting about...
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
You don't say? I would never have guessed that that's what he was originally thinking. But you're resolutely missing my point so that you can be all grumpy and bitter over it. What George Lucas was originally thinking is irrelevant because it wasn't important at the time. That's because the films were still good and there was no demand for detailed technical speculation. But since then the level of continuity has overflowed and most of the big things that came out of the franchise have gone to shit. So over analysed canon is all we have left, and I'm trying to make the most of it.
Me too. The only difference is in a matter of opinion of what you should do when analyzing "canon" material. You go for the retconned version, while I go for the "back to basics/roots" version.

If it was a scientific debate then the retconned stuff would certainly be the deciding voice (since science is basically all bout retconning yesterdays "facts" with new and more superior facts based on new discoveries). But since the discussion isn't very scientific, then it is more like a religious one. And religion is mostly about adhering to irrelevant "facts" and "rules" thousands of years old invented by grumpy old men who were just as whimsical as George Lucas, then I find the "back to basics" course to be the most reasonable one. :)
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
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Christ, calm down. This is an argument over the qualities of things from the Star Wars and the Marvel universes, which have the most convoluted and heavily retconned continuitys in existence. Arguing over the little details of what is and isn't canon is kind of the point here. And we love it.
Well, then I'll say that the LIGHTsabre is canon, and not the "plasma contained in a forcefield" (an equally ridiculous concept). After all, the LIGHTsabre was there first so it wins by rank of seniority.

And as discussions go, im not really obliged to adhere to arguments about this saying that "George Lucas changed his mind". Because if we're gonna go with the whimiscal ideas of that man, then pretty much anything goes and will be just as valid as anything else.

Still, I resent the Star Wars franchise a lot. Then again, im not too fond of Marvel either, but at least Marvel has pretty much been the same thing since it started. Star Wars was decent (because good actors and decent scriptwriting held it afloat) but ultimately fell from grace because George Lucas got way too full of himself.
dang man, ur bitter bro lol
 

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duchaked said:
dang man, ur bitter bro lol
Living on the planet earth as a human being has that effect on you. :p

In all seriousness though, im not particularly bitter. Bitter people are grumpy and gloomy pretty much all the time. I spout contempt and disgust with a smile on my lips most of the time. Im quite jolly actually. :D
 

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starwarsgeek said:
Snotnarok said:
Blights said:
Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
I gathered something in the starwars books actually disables lightsabers upon impact. Some rare alloy or something. Another is nearly impervious to it. What are they called? No idea, friend told me about it in a rant.
Well, in one book lightsabers fizzle out when the blade comes into contact with water. Not sure if that's what your friend was ranting about...
Thick silicon plating blocks lightsabers and cortosis shorts lightsabers out temporary.

So apparently lightsabers aren't the be-all end all weapon. I dunno why so many say they cut through everything, they seem to take a while to cut through some things and that doesn't really fly with me as always effective..
 

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Snotnarok said:
Blights said:
Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
I gathered something in the starwars books actually disables lightsabers upon impact. Some rare alloy or something. Another is nearly impervious to it. What are they called? No idea, friend told me about it in a rant.
There are a few substances that are resistant to lightsaber attacks in the Star Wars universe. Cortosis ore will short out a lightsaber blade and force it to be reignited. Weapons using a cortosis weave will stand up to lightsaber attacks (though I'm almost certain I remember a character in Knights of the Old Republic say that it's not a perfect defense and will eventually be cut through).

Phrik and Mandalorian iron (aka beskar) are also highly lightsaber resistant. I don't think either is entirely impervious, but they can take a lot of punishment. A container made entirely of phrik was able to survive an exploding planet, and a lightsaber attack on a Mandalorian iron wall just scratched it.

Ah, fun nerd facts...

Back OT: I don't know enough about the Marvel universe to say for sure. Just because the same temperature that helps create adamantium can't melt it again, does that mean it's completely immune from even significantly higher temperatures? If someone threw a bar of adamantium into the Sun, would it just chill and hang around until the Sun blew up and then float around in space for eons? It's an honest question. I just don't know.

Also, are we talking about regular lightsaber blades, or blades with synthetic focusing crystals, which are, from what I've read online, powerful enough to cleave a normal blade in two?

Having a more limited knowledge of the Marvel universe, I'd say that a lightsaber could cut through adamantium, given enough time. Regardless, I'd still say that it's lightsaber resistant and could hold its own for a prolonged time.
 

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I don't think it could.

Strictly speaking, nothing can damage, misform, melt or ever put a dink in adamantium, so why would lightsabers be any different?
I would imagine that the lightsaber would hit it and become shorter as it moves past the adamantium, or if it was really shiny adamantium it might reflect it, since it is light after all.
Also note that once Adamantium has cooled, it cannot be reheated or melted, so I doubt that a laserlight would be any different.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
duchaked said:
dang man, ur bitter bro lol
Living on the planet earth as a human being has that effect on you. :p

In all seriousness though, im not particularly bitter. Bitter people are grumpy and gloomy pretty much all the time. I spout contempt and disgust with a smile on my lips most of the time. Im quite jolly actually. :D
lol I was just teasing haha

good point tho. I used to joke that I would go to clubs "just to remind myself why I hate humanity" altho that ain't true exactly...

(altho one of my new year resolutions was not to punch anyone in the face this year)
 

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Nouw said:
Warhammer 40,000 Fanyboy disapproves of this thread >.>
Another Warhammer 40.000 fanboy thinks that you are being a bit rash in your disapprovement.

I mean come on, we both know that neither Star Wars or X-Men can do anything to top 40K, don't we? ;)

First of all, the starships of 40K are both bigger and have more destructive weapons than anything that star wars have.

And X-Men? What are X-Men? Why they are mutants of course! What does the Imperium of Man do with mutants? >:D

So don't worry, 40K will pwn them both in the end. :p

I mean just look at this:

 

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Geo88 said:
Back OT: I don't know enough about the Marvel universe to say for sure. Just because the same temperature that helps create adamantium can't melt it again, does that mean it's completely immune from even significantly higher temperatures? If someone threw a bar of adamantium into the Sun, would it just chill and hang around until the Sun blew up and then float around in space for eons? It's an honest question. I just don't know.
Well, that's what we've always assumed. Since Marvel hasn't ever said otherwise... Logically speaking, that makes it an indestructible object. Wheras, a lightsaber isn't an unstoppable force. This is the basis of my argument.
 

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If a cortorsis weave can do it, then I'm sure adamantium could.

Mind you, I have no idea what a cortorsis weave actually is, in fact I'm not even sure if I got the name right. But still...
 

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hmpf! A lightsaber clearly cuts through adamantium like a hot knife through butter... now MagicPutty that's another story!
 

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I would think that it could. It would be a matter of days, or maybe even weeks, but it could be done.
 

Geo88

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tologna said:
Geo88 said:
Back OT: I don't know enough about the Marvel universe to say for sure. Just because the same temperature that helps create adamantium can't melt it again, does that mean it's completely immune from even significantly higher temperatures? If someone threw a bar of adamantium into the Sun, would it just chill and hang around until the Sun blew up and then float around in space for eons? It's an honest question. I just don't know.
Well, that's what we've always assumed. Since Marvel hasn't ever said otherwise... Logically speaking, that makes it an indestructible object. Wheras, a lightsaber isn't an unstoppable force. This is the basis of my argument.
Meh, who knows? Even as a rabid Star Wars fan, I'll readily admit that lightsabers aren't the ultimate weapon. Maybe adamantium could stop it, though I still think it hinges on it being truly indestructible. I have a hunch that extremely high temperatures could melt it, but as far as I know, there's no evidence of that. Meanwhile, there's plenty of evidence of lightsabers being blocked within the Star Wars universe. They aren't truly stopped, but their effectiveness has been minimized to the point of uselessness (the aforementioned Mandalorian iron wall).

Still, fun to think about.

matt_newgrove said:
hmpf! A lightsaber clearly cuts through adamantium like a hot knife through butter... now MagicPutty that's another story!
Nothing can harm MagicPutty. Nothing.
 

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Marvel Canon says that adamantium is indestructible, Star Wars canon says lightsabers cut anything, until specified otherwise. (Though the deadpool wannabe in that god awful wolverine movie has adamantium in him and get's destroyed, if I remember correctly).

Since we won't get around that point, let's just conclude that anyone proficient in the force (which you need to be, to wield a lightsaber effectively) would play wolverine-pong the same way magneto did.


Housebroken Lunatic said:
I mean come on, we both know that neither Star Wars or X-Men can do anything to top 40K, don't we? ;)

First of all, the starships of 40K are both bigger and have more destructive weapons than anything that star wars have.
 

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Sam_Winchester said:
This question has bugged me ever since I heard it on the RoosterTeeth Drunk Tank Podcast (for those of you who don't know what that is, go download it for free from iTunes). In truth, I believe it absolutely could do it, it would just be a long time to do it, like the adamantium would be fighting with the lightsaber.

What do you think happens?
According to the way that Lucas writes it (because I'm the kind of nerd that I know too much about this kind of thing) a light saber can cut through anything with the exception of two things. Cortosis (sp?) and another lightsaber blade. There WAS originally a seperate variety of light sabre called the "Dark Saber" that was a black light saber with a different shape to it, that could actually cut through a normal one. But Lucas quickly decided it made the light saber seem less ultimate and so he called it non-canon.

As well Adimantium would melt as according to Lucas' writtings the lightsaber "blade" is energy at SUCH a high temperature it would be capable of melting adimantium.

So, there is your answer . . . leave this discussion somewhat stranger . . . I know I will.
 

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tologna said:
No, it would just heat it until it is the same temperature as the beam. Adamantium doesn't melt, therefore a lightsaber can't cut it.
We have a winner.