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Duruznik

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That's just bullcrap. I've got a few female friends and I can personally say that we're both equally squicked out by the idea of going out with eachother. I might add that in each case both the female friends and I are heterosexual. So... yeah.

(If it wasn't clear: Yes, I am a man)
 

twistedheat15

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Fagotto said:
Haven't you heard the saying "never argue with idiots. They'll just lower you to their level, then beat you with experience."? It'll be best to just smile and nod at him, no matter what kinda logic you show him, he'll just keep screaming "nu-uh, everyone thinks like me and the people I know! You just don't know it yet!"
 

BrionJames

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Men are always going to have an issue of physical attraction. "Just friends" is possible, but either the male or female are going to harbor some feelings of attraction, it's natural, it's how we are wired. Do relationships exist, where two people are "Just friends" and these feelings are present but nothing ever happens? Of course. However, I'd say more than half the time that there are men and women present here that have had friends that at one time or another wish they could've had something more with that person. My story, which I'll share with you, is about my co-worker who trained me in at my previous job of two years. We worked together constantly throughout that first year, quickly becoming friends. We didn't interact much outside of work, but that's generally how most job friendships work, in my experience. During this time I was living with my current girlfriend of a year and we were struggling with our relationship. During the summer of my second year, are business was holding a annual brewer's celebration at the local park. I, unfortunately, was condemned to work while my co-workers and my friend helped host it. I was rummaging in the back for some things while on duty and was approached by my friend, who was drunk, and asked if I would give her a ride home. Being at work, I asked the shift supervisor if this was all right, she granted me leave to take my friend home. I drove her home and we shared a cigarette on her front porch, she told me that she wanted me to stay and revealed to me that she was jealous of my girlfriend. I knowing that she was drunk and that I was due back at work refused and left. The next day I discovered she had left her license in my car, so the following evening when we closed together I told her I had found it. She had been distant all day, hardly speaking a word to me. That evening she followed me out to my car and I gave her, her license back asking her if she remembered me giving her a ride home and what she had said. She said that she couldn't remember anything and that was that. We were a little estranged after that, but after a week or two we went back to being friends. It had shocked me and I admitted to myself that I always felt very comfortable around her. Eventually, admitting to myself that I indeed had feelings for her, but reasoning that we were both in long term relationships and should not jeopardize them. Several months later at another local outing for a mutual friend, she admitted to me that she had lied the night I returned her license. We had some drinks together and discussed different avenues of what might have happened had I stayed that day back in the summer. Time progressed my long time girlfriend moved out west to be with a friend who had fallen ill. I stayed behind to save up money and prepare to follow her. It was then that I found myself thinking of my co-worker again, how well we got along. We began to spend more and more time together. Many a night, while her boyfriend was away or still at work, we spent watching movies together, having dinner together, and enjoying each others company. Several times we ended up on the same couch together under the same blanket. Sharing space like that, I felt it because we were so lonely yet I couldn't help but wish she were staying there with me each night she left. A couple of nights things almost went too far, but I stopped her on one occasion and her, me on the other. The time came when it was time for me to leave, my money was saved up and I had left my job where we both worked together. I had hoped to spend one more evening with her but she wouldn't return my calls and generally avoided me. I left, came out here to be with my girlfriend of four years and now I can't help but wonder if I made a mistake. Sadly, I don't know if I'll ever get to find out or see her again. We would call each other occasionally, since I've been out here but now I don't hear from her at all. I guess the point of all this is be wary, or more daring than I, if you have feelings for someone you've been friends with for a long time. Don't hide them, share them with that person because you may find a more fulfilling relationship with that person.
 

zacobar

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For the purpose of the discussion, has anyone considered the asexual man and woman? Someone who has little to no sexual desire for anyone but still responds to emotional feedback that is part of companionship.

With the asexual individual, every friendship is without sexual desire.

You can't speak for the other party in that friendship because they will have their own personality and sexuality. Likewise I can't vouch for every asexual individual, seeing as the defintion of asexuality is a spectrum that ranges from absolute zero desire to a minimalist desire (my description is not completely accurate, please research if interested).

However even this point ignores the experiences of everyone else who will most likely, at some point in their lives, have had a relationship with someone of the opposite gender which was not sexual. Barring all the exceptions one loves to bark out on the internet and display as ground-breaking insight.

P.S. I'm asexual, as such this is my experience of friendship.
 

UrieHusky

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The vast majority of my friends are female and I have no desire to get into any of their pants (no not because I'm gay)
Heck I'm even still friends with exs of mine because I don't have the brain functions of a two year old so I know how to end a relationship on reasonable standings unlike the constant shout fests I see from other ex couples.

I don't know what get's me so riled up when it comes to stuff like this *points to video* people with this mindset? it just makes me want to invent a way to slap people through the internet, and I'm far from a violent person.
 

Naeras

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I have enough female friends that I actually never had feelings for to give this a definite yes.
 

LetalisK

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It's possible, just not probable, imo. Particular in the teenage and college years.

Also, this is from Utah State University. That right there should tell you they have no clue what they're talking about.

(school rivalries, yay!)
 

Smooth Operator

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Satsuki666 said:
I guess you could be right. I can only speak for myself and I am an extremely open person, even more so when I have been drinking. I really could not imagine holding a secret like that from somebody.
It's not really a secret, wanting to sleep with attractive women is our every day life.
Broadcasting that to everyone is about as important as telling them you need to take a piss, it's meaningless and they don't want to hear it.

It just comes down to common courtesy, you don't tell a fat guy hes fat, you don't a bald guy hes bald, you don't tell your boss he's a blithering idiot, you don't tell your teacher he's a racist pig and you don't tell everyone you want to hump them.
Ignorance is bliss and we all live happily ever after.
 

Dorian6

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By that logic, gay men couldn't be platonic friends with other gay men. And I, being bisexual, can't be friends with anyone.

Of course men and women can be just friends. The vast majority of my friends are girls.
 

rayen020

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i (a guy) have a friend who is a lesbian. And not the hating all men type, just the kinda tomboyish doesn't want to have sex with me type. We are friends. Yes women and Men can be "just friends". that isn't even a question. between sexual orientation, age differences and cultural and personal preferences it is completely possible for two people of different genders to be friends with out sex or attraction complicating things.

I would say that the video posted kinda has a large strawman problem.
 

Savryc

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Fagotto said:
BrionJames said:
Men are always going to have an issue of physical attraction. "Just friends" is possible, but either the male or female are going to harbor some feelings of attraction, it's natural, it's how we are wired.
Okay, cite a scientific study saying that's how we're wired. You can't? Then you're just another person babbling the pseudoscience that constitutes his personal beliefs.

However, I'd say more than half the time that there are men and women present here that have had friends that at one time or another wish they could've had something more with that person.
Alright, then cite that statistic. If not then you're just yet another of those obnoxious people who make up statistics based on nothing but their personal feelings because those are oh so special.
Normally I'd avoid a little spat between Escapists but you haven't exactly provided much evidence to prove that you're right either except your own personal feelings and thinly veiled insults. Not taking sides or anything, just thought I'd point it out.
 

StarsintheBlood

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Of course. Seriously, I have tons of guy friends. To say that it's impossible is just ridiculous. My best friend is guy; we have a lot of fun and laughs together- and he is clearly completely smitten with another girl, which I'm very happy with. Just because at lot of people can't do it doesn't mean it's not possible.
 

drisky

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Attraction doesn't stop friendship. You can get over it, you can find someone else. By the videos logic anyone who has a girlfriend would never talk to other women ever, and that is just untrue. Also bisexuals could never have any friends at all.

Just best friends however would seem weird to me, people say their boyfriend/girlfriend is their best friend all the time. Even a girl says a guy is her best friend but won't date him, it can only mean she thinks he is ugly. But you don't have to be best friends with every one.
 

Krantos

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I think it helps when one or both are in stable relationships. I have a number of women I work with that I consider to be just friends, but I'm married, so that might have an impact.

Truthfully, a number of them are the type of people I'd have considered dating if I were single. Since I'm not, that's not an issue, and we're able to just be friends. I could see how it would be more difficult when the two parties are single.