Can Porn be Art?

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motyr

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Interesting topic, and one that deserves a significant amount of attention, now that porn is much more readily available than it ever was in the past.

My thoughts - Short answer: yes.

Long answer: Yes, art is subjective, but there has to be such a thing as subjectively "good" art. Without a certain standard, we would never be able to differentiate between, for example, the Mona Lisa and a simple sketch, or a work by Mozart and a song by Miley Cyrus. While, in both examples, the two may have the intent to be a legitimate work of art, one simply does it better than the other, for whatever reason. I'm not going to get too far into it, but we all have to agree that some "art" is better than others.

That being said, porn, for the most part, is made to arouse its audience and nothing more. Watch anything online, and you'll find low production values, shitty photography, and horrible acting...but that's not the point. Tits are a-jiggling and that's all that matters. It's not art, and if it is, it's really, really bad art.

However, that doesn't eliminate the possibility that porn could be filmed artistically, it's just saying that it largely isn't. The point is that, if the sex acts were actually approached from an artistic standpoint, and it was done with care, and with specific purpose in mind, pornographic scenes could very well be considered art. Think of "Watchmen", the movie. The one big sex scene had a definite point to it, it wasn't there just for T&A. If you saw more skin, it wouldn't be too different than anything "pornographic" in nature: ie. real sex shown on screen. However, it would still maintain the same purpose, and, as such, contribute to a work of art.

It's all about context. Porn can be art, sure, just if it's done right.
 

Zackary Yakumo

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Pornography thats just there to turn someone on is not art, i.e. Playoboy etc. But paintings and photographs that are there for the beauty and not for the nudity, where the perspectivbe is not "is this turning me on" but rather "is this beautiful or is it lovely", now thats art.
 

Unesh52

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I've never been particularly certain as to what art is, because almost everyone I've ever asked has given me a different answer. So, without a concise definition of "art," a critical comparison of the characteristics of porn with those of art is inconclusive.

But for what it's worth, when I read the topic, I immediately blurted (in my head), "Bwah HAHA!Ha-HA, GUFAAW! ...well, no."
 

Kajin

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Chefodeath said:
I suppose what I'm asking you, the escapist, is whether or not I can fap to the Mona Lisa.
I don't think you'd want to. You might piss off the snobbish art community.
 

Julianking93

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Some hentai looks pretty good, but for the most part, it's just for wankin'

Or whatever term can be used for female masturbation.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Julianking93 said:
Some hentai looks pretty good, but for the most part, it's just for wankin'

Or whatever term can be used for female masturbation.
I'm going to go ahead and guess "rubbing".

Depends upon the content, and the expression. Most of the porn I've seen? No. Though as many people have said above, art is subjective. Someone in the world could have where I have not.
 

Julianking93

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ShadowsofHope said:
Julianking93 said:
Some hentai looks pretty good, but for the most part, it's just for wankin'

Or whatever term can be used for female masturbation.
I'm going to go ahead and guess "rubbing".
Or something along those lines.

I was going to make a joke there, but I thought it might be in bad taste.
 

Furrama

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Well, what is art?

My definition: http://furrama.deviantart.com/journal/31718703/

So... yes. But it's in bad taste.
 

The Random One

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Well, the definition of art is a pretty tough nut to crack, so it's hard to say it's not, as it dependings on what you think is art - we're talking about something that can be represented by a guy putting an urinol in a museum and also by some other guy peeing in that urinol a few decades later.

My personal definition is that art is a way for an artist to send a message to people who witness his art - that message can be a story, a moral, a feeling, anything. Pornography could have a message, but I've found any porn that doesn't focus on sex is bad porn. So for me porn could be art, but would be bad at one of them.

I'll also note that one of the widest definitions of art is Scott McCloud's, who says art is anything we do that doesn't fulfill our two primary needs, eating and having sex. (So forget about Ebert - not only is making video games art, so is playing them. And writing posts on forums about them. I'm an artist!) That massively generous definition can include a ridiculous amount of things under the art banner, but porn, being specifically related to the primary need of sex, isn't one of them.
 

microwaviblerabbit

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I would say porn can be art. The issue that most porn runs into is that it is so bad in production values, believability or effectiveness that it ends up lumped in as not art not due to merit but quality. If the purpose of porn is to arouse the audience, how is that different from the iconoclastic fiction of Hemingway or the majestic awe of Mozart?

However, based around this; most porn is on par with jingles or made-for-tv movies. If someone could produce a film capable of arousing entire concert halls (with probably disastrous results), I think this argument would be rendered moot. The ironic thing is that what holds porn back is people; porn doesn't need to be good to succeed, it just needs to give a slight push. It is the masturbation, not the porn, which causes the pleasure involved. It is a picture of a tasty cake, it might make you a bit hungry, but if you want the enjoyment, you need to eat a cake.
 

SovietSecrets

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Perhaps. Yet since we all know 95% of the time everyone is faking it, I would have to go with no. If one of you can find me a porn scene thats real, I will say its art.
 

JayDub147

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No. By definition, pornography can never be art. Pornography is something without artistic merit, or more as we use the term more specifically nowadays, images of sexuality without artistic merit. If it has artistic merit, it's not pornography; it's just art.
 

BoxCutter

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JayDub147 said:
No. By definition, pornography can never be art. Pornography is something without artistic merit, or more as we use the term more specifically nowadays, images of sexuality without artistic merit. If it has artistic merit, it's not pornography; it's just art.
This is the best response to this thread. The very name "pornography" implies that there is no artistic qualities to the piece of work. Anything else I could say would just be saying what Jaydub said but in different words.