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I know of a Vegan who would eat fish and animal IF AND ONLY IF caught or killed it herself. It was the only way the she deemed it ethically sound.IshFish said:
1. No, because the animal has to be killed first.
2. Yes, because the animal doesn't have to be killed first.
3. Yes, because the fuels came from animals (and plants) that weren't specifically killed for the purpose of creating the fuel.
2. Yes, because the animal doesn't have to be killed first.
3. Yes, because the fuels came from animals (and plants) that weren't specifically killed for the purpose of creating the fuel.
I don't know about wool (doubt it though), leather is a no (unless it is pleather), fossil fuels are mostly dead plankton and algae(coal is plant matter).
I don't know about wool (doubt it though), leather is a no (unless it is pleather), fossil fuels are mostly dead plankton and algae(coal is plant matter). Although you can follow <a href=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=can+vegans+wear+wool>this link to get a better answer.
I don't know about wool (doubt it though), leather is a no (unless it is pleather), fossil fuels are mostly dead plankton and algae(coal is plant matter). Although you can follow <a href=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=can+vegans+wear+wool>this link to get a better answer.
Well, you also have to take into account how well the animals are being treated before and after being sheared.BonsaiK said:
I think so they just dont eat meat. Unless they are against the idea of killing animals fo commercial purposes (wich makes using fossile fuels and wearing wool ok)
OK so the line seems to be drawn for most ppl at the concept that they can use animal products when they were not killed for any purpose. Should benefiting from the death on any animal be an issue this?
But if vegans cant eat eggs (im pretty sure thats right) then why can they use wool?
But if vegans cant eat eggs (im pretty sure thats right) then why can they use wool?
Those animals weren't killed for commercial reasons. They died of natural causes 100s or millions of years ago.IshFish said:
Can't have dairy products and there is no killing there (as Souplex has pointed out). You have to think about how the animal is being treated for the purpose of the item they receive like wool. If the sheep is being tortured for every bit of wool then a vegan wouldn't support it.henritje said:
it really depends on their own codes, and the reasons for their veganism.
There isn't like, a standardized Vegan code.
Different people do it for different reasons. If they do it for what they deem as health reasons, leather and wool probably won't be an issue. If they do it to "save the world" then they dislike the farming of animals and the impact it has on the world, and hence probably wouldn't want to support the leather/wool industries either when alternatives are available. If they do it to "save the cute and cuddly animals", then they won't deal in leather, but will deal in things where the animal isn't technically harmed, like wool or dairy.
As for Fossil Fuels, that has the same sort of things, but has nothing really to do with Veganism, unless of course they're drinking gasoline. A person who is a vegan, and is a vegan because of its impact on their world will try and limit their carbon footprint. But those same people who wish to limit their carbon footprint might not be vegan at all. By the same token, people who are vegan's due to animal rights probably don't care at all about fossil fuels, or at least there's no correlated link between the two passions.
There isn't like, a standardized Vegan code.
Different people do it for different reasons. If they do it for what they deem as health reasons, leather and wool probably won't be an issue. If they do it to "save the world" then they dislike the farming of animals and the impact it has on the world, and hence probably wouldn't want to support the leather/wool industries either when alternatives are available. If they do it to "save the cute and cuddly animals", then they won't deal in leather, but will deal in things where the animal isn't technically harmed, like wool or dairy.
As for Fossil Fuels, that has the same sort of things, but has nothing really to do with Veganism, unless of course they're drinking gasoline. A person who is a vegan, and is a vegan because of its impact on their world will try and limit their carbon footprint. But those same people who wish to limit their carbon footprint might not be vegan at all. By the same token, people who are vegan's due to animal rights probably don't care at all about fossil fuels, or at least there's no correlated link between the two passions.
but how can vegans check if the animal is treated right? I can easily have a wool farm from hell and still say that my sheep are treated great.crudus said:
Little known fact (I think), is that there are a lot of lollies that vegans (and probably vegetarians) can't eat.
Gelatin comes from skin and bones apparently.
I had a friend who introduced me to an awesome brand of jellybeans that are gelatin free.
Natural Confectionary Company.
Gelatin comes from skin and bones apparently.
I had a friend who introduced me to an awesome brand of jellybeans that are gelatin free.
Natural Confectionary Company.
The issue is how and why the animal died, not how its body is being used. Animals that died that are now fossil fuels, nobody knows how they died but we do know that they weren't killed by humans for the specific purpose of the fossil fuel industry. Whereas the bacon that goes on your salad (I'm not a vegan, but bacon bits in salad? Yuck!) was most likely killed by humans (or human-driven machines) for the specific purpose of the meat industry.IshFish said:
Most vegans I know are staunch environmentalists and would shy away from using fossil fuels whenever they had a choice purely in the interests of looking after the planet and not consuming a what is a fairly non-renewable resource.