well hold on a minute! then riddle me this bat man, if he is just as strong as the elite's then why can the elite's be killed by humans? or for that matter why are the brutes able to fight the elite's so easy? the answer, their skill does shit against a gun that every one has! if your weakness is the thing every one commonly uses it tend to cause problemsAjimboB said:
Can you really consider someone in a powersuit badass?
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Of course, I mean, are you going to tell him he looks silly.
Then get punched in the face with his power fist? No
Then get punched in the face with his power fist? No
I said this in the last thread, this
is the single most bad-ass person in video gaming history.
I agree with your point wholeheartedly. Although impressive, a spartan out of his armor is (figuratively and literally) out of his element. Samus is completely worthless with no armor, as can be said about every Space Marine or other power armor unit class.
But, my point in posting Johnny Gat again, is that if you take someone who is ALREADY a major bad-ass and then stick them in powerarmor, it shouldn't negate that bad-assedness (yay made up words). So if you were to shove Johnny Gat into a giant body hiding suit of power armor, I don't think it should make him any less awesome. Only a character who relies on their armor should be exempt from the "Bad Ass Video Game Characters" contest.
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I agree with your point wholeheartedly. Although impressive, a spartan out of his armor is (figuratively and literally) out of his element. Samus is completely worthless with no armor, as can be said about every Space Marine or other power armor unit class.
But, my point in posting Johnny Gat again, is that if you take someone who is ALREADY a major bad-ass and then stick them in powerarmor, it shouldn't negate that bad-assedness (yay made up words). So if you were to shove Johnny Gat into a giant body hiding suit of power armor, I don't think it should make him any less awesome. Only a character who relies on their armor should be exempt from the "Bad Ass Video Game Characters" contest.
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Master-chief is naturally strong his suit just gives him shields to survive so it's not really a power suit compared to samus.
In any case master chief's suit is just plain armour and ammo holder like any other spartan's armour
anyone with Halsey's journal will know what I mean
In any case master chief's suit is just plain armour and ammo holder like any other spartan's armour
anyone with Halsey's journal will know what I mean
true, we have all been focusing wether or not the person with armor is bad ass... but the point of the thread is if it makes them bad ass or not.Stalk3rchief said:I said this in the last thread, thisis the single most bad-ass person in video gaming history.
I agree with your point wholeheartedly. Although impressive, a spartan out of his armor is (figuratively and literally) out of his element. Samus is completely worthless with no armor, as can be said about every Space Marine or other power armor unit class.
But, my point in posting Johnny Gat again, is that if you take someone who is ALREADY a major bad-ass and then stick them in powerarmor, it shouldn't negate that bad-assedness (yay made up words). So if you were to shove Johnny Gat into a giant body hiding suit of power armor, I don't think it should make him any less awesome. Only a character who relies on their armor should be exempt from the "Bad Ass Video Game Characters" contest.
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you can still be badass with a powersuit on wit simple badass actions. but genuenly i agree i find charecter with balls big enough to not need six inch thick steel protecting there face while taking out bad guys with objects that can kill sothing just as effectivly as a giant ray gun then they deserve the right to be called badass more than those sissys in power armour but it all falls down to the whole point of this forum. what you think personally is badass as there is no real way of messuring badassness.
Power Suit Up!!
OT: i agree to a degree a person wearing a tank isn't badass they just overcompersating but a character that can over come great odds can consider himself badass master chief can be called a badass cos he faces overwhelming odds at times but he does have regenerating heath something his enemies lack.
now i got your attention
OT: i agree to a degree a person wearing a tank isn't badass they just overcompersating but a character that can over come great odds can consider himself badass master chief can be called a badass cos he faces overwhelming odds at times but he does have regenerating heath something his enemies lack.
now i got your attention
OH GOD, I can never look at these threads. Because God of War always comes up, and I always look at that and think, OH, Tales of Symphonia, but no. And to make it worse, Kratos /was/ a total badass in that game, but I just can't remember that people obviously didn't like Tales of Symphonia as much as I did, considering the sales. 
Saying someone in a powersuit can't be a badass is like saying someone with a gun can't be a badass.
Well you also have to consider the context. I mean you could consider a person in a tank wearing power armor and those soliders are some bad ass people
Other examples of that is when Samus still took on Space Pirates without her suit in one of the GBA Metroids.
Or how Jim Raynor wears a power suit when on the field, yet he's still bad ass enough to take a guy on who's in power suit and win. Just because your wearing armor doesn't take away from it I think. It just's usuing technogly/weapons to help you do more with your bass ass self.
Other examples of that is when Samus still took on Space Pirates without her suit in one of the GBA Metroids.
Or how Jim Raynor wears a power suit when on the field, yet he's still bad ass enough to take a guy on who's in power suit and win. Just because your wearing armor doesn't take away from it I think. It just's usuing technogly/weapons to help you do more with your bass ass self.
Oh, well no then. The armor doesn't make someone bad-ass. The person can be bad-ass, and so can the armor, but someone using it comes off as kind of weak.zealk said:true, we have all been focusing wether or not the person with armor is bad ass... but the point of the thread is if it makes them bad ass or not.Stalk3rchief said:I said this in the last thread, thisis the single most bad-ass person in video gaming history.
I agree with your point wholeheartedly. Although impressive, a spartan out of his armor is (figuratively and literally) out of his element. Samus is completely worthless with no armor, as can be said about every Space Marine or other power armor unit class.
But, my point in posting Johnny Gat again, is that if you take someone who is ALREADY a major bad-ass and then stick them in powerarmor, it shouldn't negate that bad-assedness (yay made up words). So if you were to shove Johnny Gat into a giant body hiding suit of power armor, I don't think it should make him any less awesome. Only a character who relies on their armor should be exempt from the "Bad Ass Video Game Characters" contest.
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Probably the truest answer in this thread. Badass is to ethereal of a word for a standard definition. Its a very subjective term.theriddlen said:
But OT, It would depend.
Is wearing a power armored suit badass?
-Are you fighting along side equally armored soldiers against un-PA soldiers? No, you are not badass, you are just at a serious advantage.
-Are you the only one with Power Armor, counting both sides? Possibly, but it depends on the equipment both sides have besides your PA. If the enemy doesnt have power armor, but lots of armor regardless (tanks, APC, and so on...) and has weapons capable of turning you into pink mist? Than you can count on the Badass potential increasing. And theres also Vanquish, which the main character is a badass in the sense that he fights along side a squad of marines, against a seemingly endless army of machines and a bad case of the crabs...
-Are you fighting, by yourself, against an opposing army numbering in the thousands? Yes, the PA is not so much a cruch or advantage, as it is an equalizer.
-Are you doing whats said above, but said army is a race of aliens who are 2-3 feet taller than the average human? Obviously...
So depending on the situation, Power Armor can make you badass.
so your saying all the humans i spawned that killed the huge groups of elites in halo wars was a glitch? no, seriously... even in halo 2... with a group of humans i have done nothing and watch them take on the much larger group of elite's and a hunter!AjimboB said:
Seeings as you're critiquing a majority of fantasy characters, a powersuit is simply a parallel to the 'unexplainably superpowerful' beefcake character. You can't really nitpick one while giving the other a wave.
I feel that one CAN be a Mecha-suit badass, however their strength must not be solely reliant on their mecha-appliance.
For instance, in District 9, Wikus was not a badass, but he did cool things with an alien suit. Koobus, the MNU commando captain, was a badass by himself (despite being an insufferable bastard) - had he entered the alien suit (and somehow made it work - furthering his status), his badassery would be maintained.
Simon from Gurren Lagann is not a badass - his genetic gift is irrelevant without the Lagann, thus his power is solely dependent on the plot-tied mecha.
Fei Fong Hong (WONG FEI HONG!) from Xenogears is a badass without his Gears, as his martial skills (and later chi abilities) decimate opponents. Within his suit, he is colossally powerful - and eventually damn near unstoppable (on that note, most of the cast of Xenogears follows this pattern).
John 117 (Master Chief) was chosen for his genes, trained to be hard as nails, then genetically supplemented and re-grafted to be a penultimate combat badass. He was then given a suit of armor that cost as much as a UNSC cap-ship and made to do superhuman things. Now, the gaming world largely knows him solely for the armor (Bungie's 'It's you!' marketing strategy), but he is, in principle, one of the very, very best that was produced between Project Orion and the Spartan III program. (Still second to Fred, though...)
Samus Aran is not a badass. She has resolve and strength of character, but all her abilities stem from her armor (including the Zero suit). The friendly neighborhood Lombax is a greater badass than she - and he's reliant on his weaponry as well.
The Adeptus Astartes (Space Marines) of Warhammer 40K are badasses because they follow similar rules as the 'Chief - post-human war constructs in service of mankind; the trained super-elite that decimate armies. True, they are reliant on their equipment in-game, but in concept of fiction, they are quite effective without their gear. (Two hearts, waking sleep, spit acid, etc.)
You can kind of see how the pattern emerges. Sure, favorites want to be hailed as badasses, but the question is 'How much of a crutch is your mecha?'
For instance, in District 9, Wikus was not a badass, but he did cool things with an alien suit. Koobus, the MNU commando captain, was a badass by himself (despite being an insufferable bastard) - had he entered the alien suit (and somehow made it work - furthering his status), his badassery would be maintained.
Simon from Gurren Lagann is not a badass - his genetic gift is irrelevant without the Lagann, thus his power is solely dependent on the plot-tied mecha.
Fei Fong Hong (WONG FEI HONG!) from Xenogears is a badass without his Gears, as his martial skills (and later chi abilities) decimate opponents. Within his suit, he is colossally powerful - and eventually damn near unstoppable (on that note, most of the cast of Xenogears follows this pattern).
John 117 (Master Chief) was chosen for his genes, trained to be hard as nails, then genetically supplemented and re-grafted to be a penultimate combat badass. He was then given a suit of armor that cost as much as a UNSC cap-ship and made to do superhuman things. Now, the gaming world largely knows him solely for the armor (Bungie's 'It's you!' marketing strategy), but he is, in principle, one of the very, very best that was produced between Project Orion and the Spartan III program. (Still second to Fred, though...)
Samus Aran is not a badass. She has resolve and strength of character, but all her abilities stem from her armor (including the Zero suit). The friendly neighborhood Lombax is a greater badass than she - and he's reliant on his weaponry as well.
The Adeptus Astartes (Space Marines) of Warhammer 40K are badasses because they follow similar rules as the 'Chief - post-human war constructs in service of mankind; the trained super-elite that decimate armies. True, they are reliant on their equipment in-game, but in concept of fiction, they are quite effective without their gear. (Two hearts, waking sleep, spit acid, etc.)
You can kind of see how the pattern emerges. Sure, favorites want to be hailed as badasses, but the question is 'How much of a crutch is your mecha?'
Actually, the armor does give him extra strength. It also allows him to operate underwater and in vacuum for exteneded periods of time. Hell the sole reason why only Spartans use the armor is it had a bad habit of reacting so fast to movement that it literally tore any un-augmented wearers apart. Spartans out of their armor proved capable of annihilating ODSTs in a 3 on 1 fight. So augmentations + power armor allowed them to stand on an equal level with Elites who's armor really just provides shields and some ballistic protection. Then there are the Brutes who are outright stronger than both while wearing nothing. In a universe with billions of blood-thirsty aliens who want to annihilate you as well as the Flood, wearing power armor doesn't decrease your badassness, it's a simple precaution because surprise, surprise humans can't breath vacuum.crimsongamer said:
I think a character from the Haloverse said it best. The Spartans aren't badass because of what has been done to them, but instead in spite of what has been done to them. They didn't ask for the augmentations which killed off half of them, but instead they continued on to kick ass.
And I think that applies to all the guys mentioned on this thread, not just MC.