Read up on how John Smith took charge of Jamestown if you want my opinion on the sort of economic mindset we should (re-)adopt.
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we did colonize the us, but it was greater in resources ( i think ), and also, no one (brits) live in africa. sorry if im a bit vague here, im not sure how to expand that
In a perfect world robots would be doing all the manual work for us and we would have powerful computers that can quickly solve any unexpected problems that may arise.
are the robots fully sentient? if so, then wouldnt that be a form of slavery? and therefore, we wouldnt have jobs, so then the economy would fail?MONSTERheart said:
Not that simple. It needs checks and balances otherwise you end up with the piss poor American health care system and your financial situation. The banks play with your money, lose it, then get a government hand out. The insurance companies dominate the market and set their own rules without having anyone to challenge them.Free Thinker said:
The fact that power corrupts applies to capitalism as well, you know. That's why I said that capitalism needs to be tempered by a strong government with socialist values. If the two are in balance, the economic powers and the political powers can keep each other in check. Most European countries have some socialist tendencies, especially Scandinavia, and they're doing just fine. No totalitarian regime, no rampant abuse of power. What is this mysterious reason you believe Sweden to be different from the rest of the world?Major Major Major said:
You just don't read, do you? I could replace myself with a straw man and you'd parrot the same nonsense. As I said, just because someone is a capitalist does not turn him into a greedy money-making robot. Being a ruthless competitor in business has nothing to do with being a good person. Capitalism does not reward giving away your money. You know what does reward that? Tax breaks for charity donations. Which is a government-created way to stimulate charity. Which only supports my point.Major Major Major said:
Just smart enough to do manual labor. Like those factory bots at car factories, except farming fields.Kwoodchuck said:
"He who does not work, shall not eat." Classic.Nomaic said:
My answer to the OP is yes. There's a reason that economic systems have been capitalistic for most of human history: it's human nature. Karl Marx just wrote a book out of his crazy daydreams, and people mistakenly took it as a viable economic system (haven't read it, so speaking from ignorance here, though I intend to read into the Manifesto sometime).
Capitalism is the only way that really works, like, at all.
Capitalism is the worst type of economy except for all the others
but seriously, Capitalism (in my opinion) is the best type of economy as long as there is some regulation
but seriously, Capitalism (in my opinion) is the best type of economy as long as there is some regulation
Pimppeter2 said:
Of course, when we say "colonised Americans" we are referring to European settlers, not the North American Indians - who did get the really really bad deal.Kwoodchuck said:
In short, the circumstances were a tad different. It depends entirely on how the colonising Empire behaves. Historically, how well a country comes out of colonisation tends to depend on how ethnically different, and how numerous the local populace is to the invading one.
I don't have any problems with the fundamental ideas of capitalism, but I what I dislike is how the pursuit of wealth ulimately undermines the more artistic fields of society, such as film, music, and gaming - it stifles creativity and prevents truly unique and innovative ideas from being embraced. What we get instead is shit like Transformers 2, The Jonas Brothers, and game sequel after fucking sequel.
