Caual Gamers in Game Stores.

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tobyornottoby

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hem dazon 90 post=9.69245.666529 said:
im 13 and its annoying how everyone thinks im some whiney ***** because im younger
stop whining about that ;) also use I'm instead of im, that would solve the problem to some extend

Also, at the bottom of the stack, I saw the cardnial sin. Barbie. Horse. Adventures. I so badly wanted to tell her that all those games suck and then point out good alternatives such as Rainbow Six Vegas instead of Turok, porn instead of The Guy Game, and anything at all instead of that...thing.
As long as there aren't any GOOD barbie games, I guess those liking barbies will have NO CHOICE BUT to buy the bad barbie games do they?

I love how casual gamers have hijacked the concept of fun and changed it to mean anything that's devoid of depth and challenge.

The reason why some of us aren't thrilled about video gaming becoming such a big market is because it has dumbed down gaming and gaming culture.
I wonder how it would've looked like if there were no casuals... the number of sold games would be very very low so there was NO way any big-budget next-gen would be produced. I think as you say this would be great for gameplay, but keep in mind you would have no graphical horsepower like we have now whatsoever

(so I don't see it as hijacked... I see it that those 'casual' games wouldn't be made anyway without the market. They're not replacing, they're just added)

and of course their concept of fun is devoid of depth and challenge. They play to loosen up, give their mind some rest, instead of making it the highlight of the day (or life)

the mind blowing concept of sales tax
wuzzdat?
 

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riftinducer post=9.69245.660520 said:
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riftinducer post=9.69245.658098 said:
I don't have anything against newcomers to gaming (as mentioned earlier, we all had to start somewhere), but surely if you are going to work at a gaming shop, a prerequisite is knowledge of the industry, isn't it? I was in EB about a year ago, and an employee was showing some guys around the PS3 area. They say they want something with good co-op (they already had Rainbow Six: Vegas, so the options were already limited), then she points out Heavenly Sword, claiming "you could take turns at it". No joke at all. Gobsmacked doesn't do my reaction credit.
it's the PS3.

it's not like there are any good options.

*puts on rain coat*
True, but she could at least have tried to find something, instead of pointing out random games.
Fatalis67 post=9.69245.661181 said:
My brother is 12 years old, and could kick many peoples asses at Call of Duty, but when he walks into a game store, everyone treats him like some whiny kid walking in with his mom and begging for the latest piece of low-budget Wii crap. It's not his fault that he has to walk in with his mom, he can't exactly drive. My point is that people need to stop assuming that just because someone isn't over the age of 16 that they are automatically a casual.
1:You 360 fanboys will lose, And when you do I going to yell it to the people that I called it.

2:I'm more hardcore then 90% of gamestop employees and i'm 13.
 
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tobyornottoby post=9.69245.667468 said:
I wonder how it would've looked like if there were no casuals... the number of sold games would be very very low so there was NO way any big-budget next-gen would be produced. I think as you say this would be great for gameplay, but keep in mind you would have no graphical horsepower like we have now whatsoever
Somehow computer and video game technology managed to steadily advance even before Johnny Football Team started playing games.

and of course their concept of fun is devoid of depth and challenge. They play to loosen up, give their mind some rest, instead of making it the highlight of the day (or life)
So like I said, casual gamers have hijacked and twisted concept of fun.
 

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frontier psychiatrist post=9.69245.667561 said:
tobyornottoby post=9.69245.667468 said:
and of course their concept of fun is devoid of depth and challenge. They play to loosen up, give their mind some rest, instead of making it the highlight of the day (or life)
So like I said, casual gamers have hijacked and twisted concept of fun.
Oh no! The casual scum have destroyed fun! Now no new games will come out that aren't uncomplicated color matchers. And they killed my dog!
Calm. The fuck. Down.
 
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Dramus post=9.69245.668100 said:
Oh no! The casual scum have destroyed fun! Now no new games will come out that aren't uncomplicated color matchers. And they killed my dog!
Calm. The fuck. Down.
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Tiut

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The unified opinion of nearly 90% of the members in this topic has me slightly wary of possible hypocrisy.
 

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Yeah, as a store clerk for a while, I'd actually do my best to educate people on what they were buying, I was working somewhere that was quite cool about things like that.

They had this crazy idea that if you was going to sell something, try to sell something good, that the customer would enjoy, and maybe they'll come back, instead of letting them buy crap and never return.

So me being one of the few gamers, I'd quite happily say 'You know, if you're open to advice, I can suggest something you'd probably enjoy a lot more than this, I've not heard a lot of good about this title.' or (a lot of the time) 'actually, if you're considering buying this for your son (who looks about 6), I should point out its rated 18, and contains extreme violence, drugs, swearing and sex, and I could help you choose something more suitable if you would like.'

Of course, some would get all offended that I'd question their buying choices, especially parents who were trying to sate their wailing kid, whereas I'd spend the $50 on a shovel to spang them around the side of the head, at least it wouldn't be video game related violence.

I guess they were used to going in, picking up FIFA 06/07/08 and the clerk NOT saying, 'oh you'd like some updated player names? that'll be £40'.

Ok, perhaps I wasnt as rude, I actually genuinely meant to help most people, and I'd happily sell the Sims, FIFA, Harry Potter, etc to people if that's what was wanted, they're not bad games, just a bit average, all I'm saying is we tried to educate our customers , and in general our customers liked it...then we were bought out by a big company and told to push whichever game had the highest marketing budget that week. *sighs*
 

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I go into a shop to buy a game, not the eye the public in it. And what would you prefer, a store full of pale geeky 16 year olds, or a store with 'normal' people in it. I choose the latter... makes me feel less conspicuous.
 

tobyornottoby

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So like I said, casual gamers have hijacked and twisted concept of fun.
They haven't hijacked. As I said, I see it as an addition rather than a replacement

They also haven't twisted. There's not an universal concept of fun, and certainly not a 'right' one
 
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tobyornottoby post=9.69245.669216 said:
They haven't hijacked. As I said, I see it as an addition rather than a replacement
Taking an established concept and twisting it to suit an agenda seems like hijacking to me.

They also haven't twisted. There's not an universal concept of fun, and certainly not a 'right' one
Oh, ok. So why are casual gamers pushing a narrow view of fun defined exclusively by them?