Characters you wish died in their games (Possible SPOILERS)

[aozgolo]

So based off Iwata's "Good Riddance to you!" thread where we're kinda happy to see game characters get killed off. I'm curious which characters that somehow make it to the end of the story (no matter WHAT you do) that you wish would have just died already!

Use spoiler tags where necessary, someone NOT dying could be as infuriating a spoiler as one that does.

 

[T_ConX]

Donte at the end of DmC. Like, seriously, just fuck that guy.

 

[Elfgore]

I don't think I really need to spoil this, but I'll play it safe. Spoilers for Mass Effect series below.

Spoiler

I've always wanted the council to die from Mass Effect. All three of them are total assholes to you. If you save them, they are assholes. If you don't save them, they're assholes. You can't win with them. And don't even get me started on them denying the reapers, even after one attacked their Capital. They have their heads so far up their asses I think they could reach Dark Space. Sure some will sometimes die depending on your actions, but since I'm good and usually have all teammates alive they never die.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

I don't think I really need to spoil this, but I'll play it safe. Spoilers for Mass Effect series below.

Spoiler

I've always wanted the council to die from Mass Effect. All three of them are total assholes to you. If you save them, they are assholes. If you don't save them, they're assholes. You can't win with them. And don't even get me started on them denying the reapers, even after one attacked their Capital. They have their heads so far up their asses I think they could reach Dark Space. Sure some will sometimes die depending on your actions, but since I'm good and usually have all teammates alive they never die.

While they are assholes, the three of them were ALWAYS preferable to Udina, god that guy is such a horrible person

 

[Maximum Bert]

Patrokolos and Pyrrha from SC5 apart from ZWEI and Viola who were pretty nice additions the other changes they made to the roster were some of the worst decisions I have seen from any fighting game.

Patrokolos and Pyrrha were the worst of the bad lot though and the entire (pathetic) story surrounded them and they even appeared in the roster twice each (luckily they have been retconned to an extent now it seems.....cos they are crap).

Yeah I just wanted Nightmare or Siegfried or anyone to kill these characters so bad I love the series and I loved the fighting in SCV but I just really wanted a canon death for these characters.

 

[Angelowl]

Rico from the Killzone series. The third installment can be summarized by "everything is Rico's fault, but we are still going to portray him as a hero and everyone else as a rude stuck-up". The guy was an annoying loud mouthed brute in the first game, but fiitting as he was just a sergeant in the heavy assault troops. Until they promoted him and gave him personal command of an elite squad given the most important mission in the whole war: capture Scholar Visari. The result? He gets a squadmate killed by his lack of self-discipline and murders the very person he is supposed to capture alive, turning Visari into a martyr and rejunevate the helghan war effort with new fervor.

Serioulsy, of the four main characters of the first game they picked him?! The disciplined officer who always completes his duty, the efficient and methodical shadow marshal, the cold and calculating spy who know the helghan society from inside out, OR the loud guy with a gatling gun. They seriously thought that Rico was the best fit for an extremely important commando mission?

I am still not convinced that Guerilla are not just trolling the customers.

 

[Daniel Lowery]

I don't think I really need to spoil this, but I'll play it safe. Spoilers for Mass Effect series below.

Spoiler

I've always wanted the council to die from Mass Effect. All three of them are total assholes to you. If you save them, they are assholes. If you don't save them, they're assholes. You can't win with them. And don't even get me started on them denying the reapers, even after one attacked their Capital. They have their heads so far up their asses I think they could reach Dark Space. Sure some will sometimes die depending on your actions, but since I'm good and usually have all teammates alive they never die.

While they are assholes, the three of them were ALWAYS preferable to Udina, god that guy is such a horrible person

I agree so much with this. I was just waiting for a renegade (or possible paragon) option where you can just shoot him and shut him up, but sadly that never happened.

 

[RJ 17]

Tidus from FFX. I wish he died in that opening cutscene, then we wouldn't have to deal with that whiny, arrogant little prick for the rest of the game. "It's my story!" NO! NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! You're just a god damned tag-along whose only purpose is to stuff a romance sub-plot into this story! This is Yuna's coming-of-age story as she learns what it means to truly be a summoner and the weight of responsibility and sacrifice that brings!

Sorry FFX fans, but I'm with Spoony on this one...Tidus is simply a character that should not exist.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

Tidus from FFX. I wish he died in that opening cutscene, then we wouldn't have to deal with that whiny, arrogant little prick for the rest of the game. "It's my story!" NO! NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! You're just a god damned tag-along whose only purpose is to stuff a romance sub-plot into this story! This is Yuna's coming-of-age story as she learns what it means to truly be a summoner and the weight of responsibility and sacrifice that brings!

Sorry FFX fans, but I'm with Spoony on this one...Tidus is simply a character that should not exist.

Tidus is always you and your gateway to this unknown world and unusual characters. If you hate Tidus you must be totally the opposite of a fairly healthy young man who is in a world they know nothing about with people they know nothing about and considering you should know nothing about Spira on your first time through I think he's perfectly reasonable...but that's just me

 

[Casual Shinji]

Tidus from FFX. I wish he died in that opening cutscene, then we wouldn't have to deal with that whiny, arrogant little prick for the rest of the game. "It's my story!" NO! NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! You're just a god damned tag-along whose only purpose is to stuff a romance sub-plot into this story! This is Yuna's coming-of-age story as she learns what it means to truly be a summoner and the weight of responsibility and sacrifice that brings!

Sorry FFX fans, but I'm with Spoony on this one...Tidus is simply a character that should not exist.

Spoiler

He did die in the opening. He's just an amalgamation of dream stuff, remember?

 

[RJ 17]

Tidus from FFX. I wish he died in that opening cutscene, then we wouldn't have to deal with that whiny, arrogant little prick for the rest of the game. "It's my story!" NO! NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! You're just a god damned tag-along whose only purpose is to stuff a romance sub-plot into this story! This is Yuna's coming-of-age story as she learns what it means to truly be a summoner and the weight of responsibility and sacrifice that brings!

Sorry FFX fans, but I'm with Spoony on this one...Tidus is simply a character that should not exist.

Tidus is always you and your gateway to this unknown world and unusual characters. If you hate Tidus you must be totally the opposite of a fairly healthy young man who is in a world they know nothing about with people they know nothing about and considering you should know nothing about Spira on your first time through I think he's perfectly reasonable...but that's just me

Sorry, but I'm not an arrogant little snot who think's he's top-dog because he's a superstar at a physically impossible (even in a sci-fi/fantasy world) sport, such as Tidus.

Think back to every other FF game you've ever played. Every single one of them. They all take place on different worlds, and yet not one of them forced in a "This character is like the player, experiencing a strange new world!" character. FF8 was pretty strange, no player-character in there. FF7 was pretty strange, no player-character in there. 4, 6, Tactics, 10-2, 11, 12, 13, all unique worlds and not one of them needed a little piss-ant like Tidus. 9's world was frickin' nuts...and yet there was no player-character in there. I want to learn about and experience a knew world with my own perceptions, not have them filtered through the eyes and mind of a freak like Tidus because then you're not experiencing the world yourself, you're experiencing Tidus' experience of the world. As such, even your "he's supposed to be you" argument falls flat.

I stand by my point: FFX would have been just fine without Tidus. He's a character that should have never existed in the first place.

 

[RJ 17]

Tidus from FFX. I wish he died in that opening cutscene, then we wouldn't have to deal with that whiny, arrogant little prick for the rest of the game. "It's my story!" NO! NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! You're just a god damned tag-along whose only purpose is to stuff a romance sub-plot into this story! This is Yuna's coming-of-age story as she learns what it means to truly be a summoner and the weight of responsibility and sacrifice that brings!

Sorry FFX fans, but I'm with Spoony on this one...Tidus is simply a character that should not exist.

Spoiler

He did die in the opening. He's just an amalgamation of dream stuff, remember?

Oh and don't even get me started on all that tripe. FFX has almost as many plot-holes/confusion points as 13, and that's saying something.

 

[AntiChri5]

I don't think I really need to spoil this, but I'll play it safe. Spoilers for Mass Effect series below.

Spoiler

I've always wanted the council to die from Mass Effect. All three of them are total assholes to you. If you save them, they are assholes. If you don't save them, they're assholes. You can't win with them. And don't even get me started on them denying the reapers, even after one attacked their Capital. They have their heads so far up their asses I think they could reach Dark Space. Sure some will sometimes die depending on your actions, but since I'm good and usually have all teammates alive they never die.

While they are assholes, the three of them were ALWAYS preferable to Udina, god that guy is such a horrible person

I agree so much with this. I was just waiting for a renegade (or possible paragon) option where you can just shoot him and shut him up, but sadly that never happened.

Uhhh......yeah it kinda did.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

Tidus from FFX. I wish he died in that opening cutscene, then we wouldn't have to deal with that whiny, arrogant little prick for the rest of the game. "It's my story!" NO! NO IT'S FUCKING NOT! You're just a god damned tag-along whose only purpose is to stuff a romance sub-plot into this story! This is Yuna's coming-of-age story as she learns what it means to truly be a summoner and the weight of responsibility and sacrifice that brings!

Sorry FFX fans, but I'm with Spoony on this one...Tidus is simply a character that should not exist.

Tidus is always you and your gateway to this unknown world and unusual characters. If you hate Tidus you must be totally the opposite of a fairly healthy young man who is in a world they know nothing about with people they know nothing about and considering you should know nothing about Spira on your first time through I think he's perfectly reasonable...but that's just me

Sorry, but I'm not an arrogant little snot who think's he's top-dog because he's a superstar at a physically impossible (even in a sci-fi/fantasy world) sport, such as Tidus.

Think back to every other FF game you've ever played. Every single one of them. They all take place on different worlds, and yet not one of them forced in a "This character is like the player, experiencing a strange new world!" character. FF8 was pretty strange, no player-character in there. FF7 was pretty strange, no player-character in there. 4, 6, Tactics, 10-2, 11, 12, 13, all unique worlds and not one of them needed a little piss-ant like Tidus. 9's world was frickin' nuts...and yet there was no player-character in there. I want to learn about and experience a knew world with my own perceptions, not have them filtered through the eyes and mind of a freak like Tidus because then you're not experiencing the world yourself, you're experiencing Tidus' experience of the world. As such, even your "he's supposed to be you" argument falls flat.

I stand by my point: FFX would have been just fine without Tidus. He's a character that should have never existed in the first place.

Well 12 had Vaan who is also essentially just you. But yeah while Tidus sure as hell wasn't the main character I do believe the game would have suffered without him there to be the voice that questions everything.

A big problem that people had with 13 was the jargon thrown around willy nilly without being explained. Well everyone in this world already knows what it all is, it doesn't need explaining, except you don't know what it is. A character like Tidus would have said "What the crap is a L'cie?" and everything would have been explained.

In X if Tidus wasn't there you wouldn't know any of the stuff you learn because of Tidus' curiosity, about Yuna's fate, about Blitzball, the Crusaders battle with Sin, the way the temples work, the lore of the summoner and all the other stuff kids in Spira would know because no one would explain, they already know all about it.

 

[Quazimofo]

Raiden should have died in MGS4.

He supposedly 'dies' at about 4 points in that fucking game, but every time he seemingly comes back with a bit of surgery and about an hour of being really weak or losing a couple of limbs.

Really, the point where he gets a god damn battleship crashing into him he really should have died.

Yeah, probably. However, Metal Gear Rising was fun as hell and that kinda couldn't have happened if the cyborg ninja protagonist was already dead.

I'm gonna throw another vote in for Udina. I never trusted the guy and I really wish I could have at least gotten him fired at some point in the first game or 2.
I also wish Serrano (bulletstorm) had died, because then the game wouldn't have ended on a massive sequel hook that's likely to not be continued because not enough people bought the game. DAMN YOU OTHER PEOPLE FOR NOT SPENDING ENOUGH MONEY TO JUSTIFY SEQUELS TO THINGS I ENJOY!

 

[Soulrender95]

Pretty much all the "main cast" of ISA soldiers from Killzone 2 and 3 they were all fairly loathsome individuals to a degree, Rico being the worst. but then again they are the villains so it's entirely appropriate I suppose.

while I liked the character and the game overall, Joel from the Last of us shouldn't have survived the game, I just feel I'd have liked to have played as Ellie longer and have her take control over her life in the hospital and decide what she wants to do (preferably player choice) based on the events that led up to the ending.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Most Final Fantasy protagonists. Tidus, Paine, Vann/Penelope...

Those four in particular exist because, hey hey, we need an identifiable protagonist! Despite the fact that those 3 games had one. Yuna for 10 and 10-2 (though 10-2 probably belongs here as well) and the other girl for 11.

 

[suitepee7]

miranda in ME shouldn't have been able to survive... she should have been shot by shepard when she shoots... harkin? then jacob could have been number 2 until garrus showed up, and the game would have been much better!

also the children in little lamplight. they're complete douchenozzles and (unless you mod it) there's nothing you can do to the snarky assholes