Cheating in relationships: your views?

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Vanguard_Ex

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AverageJoe said:
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I would have to disagree. I think it is only an archaic concept to those who cannot face only sleeping with one person at a time, if I'm being honest. It isn't a case of open-mindedness, this is why some of the most open-minded and intelligent people I've ever known will still have monogamous relationships and stay true to them.
-for the sake of space, sorry-
It is kind of off-topic I suppose but who cares, this is some grade A discussion.
You make some good points and I guess I can understand how this works for some people, but to me it just isn't right. I don't really see sex as sacred, god no, it is just sex. But that little sentiment can work both ways: if it is just sex, why bother being in a relationship in the first place if you're going to sleep around? Why bother sleeping with different people when you can make love to the person you, well, love? This is just the way I look at it, of course there is no right or wrong way to live in this life.

I guess what I'm trying to say (and failing) is that the exclusiveness of only doing these things with each other is, to me, a huge part of what makes a relationship of love between two people special and sacred. Some might say I'm being a naive 18 year old with an old soul and a head full of lovey nonsense but I don't care, because there'll be other people who see it the same way I do and those are the girls for me, just like open people will find each other and click.

I'm really trying hard to make this thing not swerve into an argument if you noticed.
 

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Vanguard_Ex said:
WHAT IS UP.

A thread I made recently caused many Escapists to share their views of cheating in a relationship and how they would personally react. However, there were a select few who genuinely didn't see their significant other, say, sleeping with someone else a problem. Apparently the difference between lust and love or something. How do you guys see cheating? Would you carry on knowing they'd done anything with someone else?

Personally? I find it disgusting. When it comes to general behaviours, there isn't much that I find repulsive...usually it takes something graphic or visceral for that. But the idea of sleeping with someone else whilst in a relationship genuinely fills me with revulsion. The way I see it, lust or no, you're still breaking a kind of commitment that should be sacred between you both.

So please, do discuss guys :)
I've been going out with my Girlfriend for not even a month. I got mad when i found out she fucked her ex before i even met her. If she cheated on me...I would make her life hell with all the things i know now.
(edit) were young enough so that screwing some one is a big thing (15) so thats why I got mad
 

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If it's a marriage, cheating is horrible.

If it's a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, cheating is a sign that the relationship should have been open. I don't find this variety of cheating particularly despicable. At all.

If it's an open relationship, it isn't cheating.

In other news, I really don't understand why people voluntarily dig themselves into the boyfriend/girlfriend hole.
 

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Its kinda open minded. Some couples like the extra flare, and keeps their relationship strong and happy. Others cant bear it. I know its not cheating, but i htink as long as your partner is oka with it, go ahead.
 

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Mr. Google said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
WHAT IS UP.

A thread I made recently caused many Escapists to share their views of cheating in a relationship and how they would personally react. However, there were a select few who genuinely didn't see their significant other, say, sleeping with someone else a problem. Apparently the difference between lust and love or something. How do you guys see cheating? Would you carry on knowing they'd done anything with someone else?

Personally? I find it disgusting. When it comes to general behaviours, there isn't much that I find repulsive...usually it takes something graphic or visceral for that. But the idea of sleeping with someone else whilst in a relationship genuinely fills me with revulsion. The way I see it, lust or no, you're still breaking a kind of commitment that should be sacred between you both.

So please, do discuss guys :)
I've been going out with my Girlfriend for not even a month. I got mad when i found out she fucked her ex before i even met her. If she cheated on me...I would make her life hell with all the things i know now.
I get the same man, I'm madly jealous. I would get angry when I learnt about things my ex girlfriend had done before me and her met.
 

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I get the same man, I'm madly jealous. I would get angry when I learnt about things my ex girlfriend had done before me and her met.
Yeah and even more i found out that they started talking again as friends i got so furious at her that i barely even talked to her. then i got over it and that was 2 weeks ago. Now shes completely cut off ties with him even though i told her im fine with them talking as long as i never have to meet him because....Id beat the shit outta him
 

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Personally I think adultery without consent of the other partner should be made illegal as you are purposefully harming a legal realtionship. Whereas if it's a dating realtionship then its not so bad but it still isn't right, personally I'd hit the roof and probablly attempt to attack the person who is cheating on my girlfriend and beat him to an inch of his life than I'd call me girlfriend a slag and leave it at that. Whereas if my girlfriend told me she wanted to see someone else than I'd be ok with it, still be upset though.
 

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I cant see the problem with being in two relationships at once, as long as everyone knows where they stand. However, if you sleep with someone without telling your partner, youre being dishonest and undermining the relationship.
 

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Zeeky_Santos said:
jopomeister said:
I clicked this thread thinking it was about gaming.
I am disappointed.
Still, I'll comment.
I believe cheating is bad, and I don't see why anyone might think it's a good thing to do.
This is the OTF, if you want gaming go to the Gaming Discussion forum.
Thing is, I only ever visit forums via the "Hot threads" or the "New Threads", so I don't tend to check the topic of the thread >_<
 

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I would react the same way Jesus does in JCS, when his temple is turned into a den of thieves.
Sorry, but gotta' point out, that's actually from the Bible. Referencing Jesus Christ Superstar for that is like talking about how well the "To be or not to be" soliloquy was written specifically in Mel Gibson's Hamlet. :p

OT: It's wrong. Plain and simple. There is no excuse for it. If you are with someone and you care about them, you won't go around screwing other people. It's absolutely not okay.
 

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Thaius said:
hurfdurp said:
I would react the same way Jesus does in JCS, when his temple is turned into a den of thieves.
Sorry, but gotta' point out, that's actually from the Bible. Referencing Jesus Christ Superstar for that is like talking about how well the "To be or not to be" soliloquy was written specifically in Mel Gibson's Hamlet. :p

OT: It's wrong. Plain and simple. There is no excuse for it. If you are with someone and you care about them, you won't go around screwing other people. It's absolutely not okay.
The Bible, what is that? Saying I want to react in song, and theatrically means I don't realize the origin of certain things?
 

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hurfdurp said:
Thaius said:
hurfdurp said:
I would react the same way Jesus does in JCS, when his temple is turned into a den of thieves.
Sorry, but gotta' point out, that's actually from the Bible. Referencing Jesus Christ Superstar for that is like talking about how well the "To be or not to be" soliloquy was written specifically in Mel Gibson's Hamlet. :p

OT: It's wrong. Plain and simple. There is no excuse for it. If you are with someone and you care about them, you won't go around screwing other people. It's absolutely not okay.
The Bible, what is that? Saying I want to react in song, and theatrically means I don't realize the origin of certain things?
Ah, okay. I thought you were referring to the tossing of the temple tables, not specifically the song. Just making sure you got it: you'd be surprised how many people these days don't understand such simple Bible references.
 

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i work at a Court and one of the things i deal with are divorces so i know the problems an affair can cause. if i'm with someone and they cheat, that's the end of it
 

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I have no fears of my lad cheating, i know he isnt the type, and that if he even tried it, his family would turn on him instantly. obviously i can say i wont cheat on him, not even his LUSH older brother can tempt me, im still drawn to my lad.

Soon will be his stag night, and many people know the stories of the one night stands through drink, so naturally I'm wary. I warned him that if i heard he'd gotten drunk enough to be tempted into bed, i'd forgive him, only if i thought he'd been too out of his mind to do anything else. He's promised to avoid that kind of situation though so hopefully my fears are not needed for that night.

Other then this one occasion, if i ever heard he'd been cheating, i'd probably kill him.
 

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Though I don't think we are belongings of each other, I do think in a relationship such things should not be done on either side. I'm not a violent person, but I would probably knock all the guys teeth out if he knew what was going on, throw all of her belongings out of the house, smoke a cig and go to bed... hoping the next day I won't remember a thing about it.
 

The Cheezy One

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why is this a question? make it a poll and i bet 90-10 think its bad. even if someone was ok with cheating, they wouldnt admit it
 

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This issue obviously depends completly on the social contract you form in the relationship. If you date the nic girl you met during the catholics bakery sale, "cheating" will probably a no-go in the relationship.

But the funny thing about your question "Cheating in relationships: your views" is, that it already answers itself. If the act is labeled as cheating, you already mark it as something negativ. While some things that are usually considered cheating can provide positive things to a relationship.

Like relief of sexual desires, your regular partner can't or doesn't want to meet. Say you absolutly crave a certain type of sexual intercurse, your partner finds disgusting. What would damage your relationship worse: a) Living with It, surpressing it, eventually giving up a part of yourself b) trying to convince youzr partner to something he/she doesn't like or c) hopping in bed with someone else or a professional every now and then to get relief?

You don't even have to meet this question on a sexual level. Some people consider talking with persons of the opposite sex cheating, we thing that's strange, because it isn't part of our default social contract for relationships, as is having multiple sexual partners. Only if you extend your view beyond tihs concept, you can really argue about this question.

To give a nice conclusing example, from real life and not the cold, harsh world of philosophy: I once had a relationship with a nice girl, lasted to years and ended in mutual agreement, because logistics had become too difficult. When I first met her, she soon stated, that she likes sleeping with multiplie people of various sexes, religions, numbers and skin-colours. At first I was pretty stunned, but once it turned out that she handled that in a very smart way, seeing it as some kind of sport or hobby, and that she was very cereful about any kind of STD, it really wan't a problem anymore. She stated the acceptance of this fact as a foundaion for the relationship, so you can't call it cheating.

Sex should not be, what determinates your relationship, if it is, you are doing it wrong.

When thing about it the whole concept of single-partner-relationships is kind of out dated. "Till death does us appart" was made in times whre people married at 15 and died at 30, spend most of their time working under horribly conditions. Today people are expected to live 80 years and longer, whithout having become twice as reli- or likeable. ;)
 

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clipse15 said:
I think cheating is wrong but I have no problem with my girlfriend if she tells me she wants to fuck someone else. We talk and discuss if one of us wants to sleep with someone else and its fine. The love in our relationship isn't built around sex, sex is a physical act that we both enjoy. The love we have for each other comes from being together, doing things together, talking and interacting with each other.
This. this is exactly my view on it.... going behind someone's back to sleep with someone else is horrible.... but if you can TALK about it and work it out then it shouldn't be a issue :) ty for saying this first to help me get my thoughts out on paper... er.... well into text anyway :D
 

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Vanguard_Ex said:
AverageJoe said:
clipse15 said:
I think cheating is wrong but I have no problem with my girlfriend if she tells me she wants to fuck someone else. We talk and discuss if one of us wants to sleep with someone else and its fine. The love in our relationship isn't built around sex, sex is a physical act that we both enjoy. The love we have for each other comes from being together, doing things together, talking and interacting with each other.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

On the other hand I am single at the moment and generally I base these things around who I am with, what she is comfortable with. Open relationships are nice, closed ones are nice too, I am happy with either and I wouldn't do anything she didn't want.

Of course that isn't really classed as cheating. Cheating is breaking trust, and if a partner does trust me to be with only her, if I broke that promise it would be very wrong and I'd never do that because I respect my girlfriends.

To be honest, monogamy isn't something that has to be important for anyone who is open-minded enough to realize it is an archaic concept
I would have to disagree. I think it is only an archaic concept to those who cannot face only sleeping with one person at a time, if I'm being honest. It isn't a case of open-mindedness, this is why some of the most open-minded and intelligent people I've ever known will still have monogamous relationships and stay true to them.
I just guess your unable to seperate sex and love. I however can completely seperate the two. But why should we stop at that? if someone is in love why do they need companionship from the opposite sex at all then? Should the male refuse to make any more female friends or vice versa? why do we draw the line at sex?