Cheerleader must compensate school that told her to clap 'rapist'

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funguy2121

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qwerty19411 said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
qwerty19411 said:
Bolton, indicted by the third grand jury on felony sexual assault of a minor, pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of misdemeanor assault.
Rape and sexual assault are two completely different charges though.
Pardon me for saying, but isn't the third juries decision paedophilic molestation? Given she was a minor?

I'd also argue entrapment on the part of the school if they were asking her to do something in a case they must have been ware of.

But, in the end, that's a hell of a PR hit that that school is gonna take at their next game.
According to Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica
A clinical diagnosis of pedophilia also requires that the affected individual be at least 16 years of age and at least 5 years older than the child (or children) at the centre of the individual's sexual fantasies.
I couldn't find his exact age anywhere, but he was in High School so the age difference isn't that large.
Also, pedophiles are attracted to the pre-pubescent and not to teenagers. I believe the term is hebophile or ephebephile - but either way, you're right. The legal and psyche communities don't consider most statutory rape charges pedophilia. A 22 year old and a 17 year old is not an incest of pedophilia.

Edit: "Instance," not "incest." Already laughing at myself, don't worry...
 

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mjc0961 said:
Also, I wonder why the hell the rapist managed to get off with a plea to misdemeanor assault with 2 years probation instead of being taken to trial for rape. Why did they offer him that deal?
Ladette said:
Bigger question, why is the guy who assaulted her still on a high school sports team? Unless they had a really, really flimsy case that is bullshit.
Valiard said:
Here is a question, WHY IS THE RAPIST STILL ON ANY TEAM AND NOT IN JAIL??!? This situation should not even be happening...or is it just me?
Texas.
High School.
Athlete.
funguy2121 said:
I believe the term is hebophile or ephebephile
In layman's terms: jailbait.
 

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Yosharian said:
funguy2121 said:
However, I find it odd that all of these blogs assume that she was raped, when in our court system and in yours, innocent until proven guilty is the law of the land, in principal if not always in practice. If he did rape her I'd be happy knowing that he would spend the rest of his life in prison, but we don't know that he raped her. We only know that these blogs say he did, and that they concede through their wording that this is an assumption.
It's common sense. He was convicted of assault. Why else would they be beating up a girl.
Ya but that's not the definition of assault, that's the definition of assault and battery which is not what he plead to. Assault can be any number of things he could have verbally threatened her and it would've counted as assault
 

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mjc0961 said:
Well, a lot of people are probably going to land on probation after they flame me for saying this, but I think the school should have the right to kick her off the cheerleading squad. Yes, that guy who raped her is obviously scum who should be in jail instead of back at school playing basketball. But, as it stands, she's a cheerleader, meaning she's supposed to be cheering for the team and its players. If she isn't willing to fulfill those duties, she shouldn't be a cheerleader anymore.

The bit about a "frivolous" lawsuit that requires her to pay the school's legal fees is ridiculous though. If the courts can't see why the hell the student and her parents would fight the school on that, they're in dire need of a reality check. Do they deserve compensation from the school for the incident? I don't think so. But I also don't think they should be forced to pay the school's legal fees for this one: it's not like they sued the school because the cheerleading uniform made her look fat. Have some fucking sense, courts!

Also, I wonder why the hell the rapist managed to get off with a plea to misdemeanor assault with 2 years probation instead of being taken to trial for rape. Why did they offer him that deal? Did the family speak out against him getting that deal? I want to know more about that bit, because pleading out of a rape charge and getting 2 years probation seems utterly ridiculous to me.

This is Texas we're talking about here, they take their sports, even at highschool level, very very seriously to a ridiculously extremest point. If they're football stadiums were bombed they would consider it an equivalent of 9-11. And because of this sport's-based viewpoint, members of sports teams typically get off a lot easier in courts, this isn't the first situation I don't think, and it likely won't be the last.

The issue we should be looking at is how no legal documents were signed, yet her freedom of speech has been seriously violated. This whole situation could have been handled much, much better if they had never pulled her aside, and perhaps just kicked her off the cheerleading team later on for being insubordinate.

I'm not going to deny that this is fucked up, because it is, but so is the whole justice system. No amount of complaining on the defendant's part, or the taxpayer's part is going to fix this scenario, but perhaps we can use this as a base point to point out that our basic freedoms are being violated and that issue needs to be fixed so that future incidents, such as this one, don't occur. No matter what we do, someone will get the shaft, but perhaps as a group people can come together and say "hey this is wrong, lets fix it so that no one elses' ass gets chewed out"
 
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I am fairly sure this kinda old or at least been posted on the forums.

OT: Well I think it has all been said before really not much to add other than it is a ridiculous miscarriage of justice.
 

Gorden Springel

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While I dont know the whole story, from what I can see this is just absolutely ludicrous to expect her to applaud her convicted rapist. On top of that, they expect her to pay him money for objecting to it? What a joke.
 

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This is...this is.....i don't know what the hell this is, stuff like this is precisely the reason why i (seriously) have a 'BANG HEAD HERE' board attached to my bedroom wall, speaking of which......*audible thuds heard*
 

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That ain't right. There is no way possible to make that right. What the hell kind of... Who...
This isn't even "sad." This is pathetic. This is really pathetic.
 

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Gorden Springel said:
While I dont know the whole story, from what I can see this is just absolutely ludicrous to expect her to applaud her convicted rapist. On top of that, they expect her to pay him money for objecting to it? What a joke.
1. he was never convicted of rape
2. the game in question was before he was even indicted
3. the payment isn't to him, it's to the school
4. the payment isn't for not cheering. It's for dragging out a lengthy, costly and unnecessary lawsuit.
 

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Snooder said:
1. he was never convicted of rape
2. the game in question was before he was even indicted
3. the payment isn't to him, it's to the school
4. the payment isn't for not cheering. It's for dragging out a lengthy, costly and unnecessary lawsuit.
Firstly, look at the legal history of Texas in rape cases before bringing in your first point to the argument. They are notorious for being extremely misogynist in their rulings. Many cases where there was ample evidence of a rape was brushed aside and turned into misdemeanor assaults because of BS (i.e. "She was dressing slutty. She deserved it").

Secondly, the lawsuit being unnecessary or not depends on whether or not you believe it's wrong that the school district puts their team and the sport of cheerleading above the feelings of a girl who was raped. Unfortunately, even in more 'liberal' states, survivors of sexual assault are rarely given the treatment and respect they deserve.

This case, at least to me, just seems to highlight that fact more.
 

Gorden Springel

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Snooder said:
Gorden Springel said:
While I dont know the whole story, from what I can see this is just absolutely ludicrous to expect her to applaud her convicted rapist. On top of that, they expect her to pay him money for objecting to it? What a joke.
1. he was never convicted of rape
2. the game in question was before he was even indicted
3. the payment isn't to him, it's to the school
4. the payment isn't for not cheering. It's for dragging out a lengthy, costly and unnecessary lawsuit.

Well then the more you know I suppose.
 

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qwerty19411 said:
Gorden Springel said:
While I dont know the whole story, from what I can see this is just absolutely ludicrous to expect her to applaud her convicted rapist. On top of that, they expect her to pay him money for objecting to it? What a joke.
Please reread the story. She's to pay the school back, not the guy who assaulted her.
Very few people commenting on this actually read the story and are just spewing their ignorance of the facts everywhere.
 

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I only have to say that to all those who are saying "OMG TEXAS IS SUCH A BACKWARDS STATE DER HERR HERR," why don't you take your own ignorance and hypocrisy and shove it up your ass.
 

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Jack the Potato said:
I only have to say that to all those who are saying "OMG TEXAS IS SUCH A BACKWARDS STATE DER HERR HERR," why don't you take your own ignorance and hypocrisy and shove it up your ass.
Texas is not a backwards state. They are actually quite progressive in many areas compared to most other states. Unfortunately in terms of sexual assault cases, they have a very bad history of having extremely misogynistic rulings. This, however, does not make them backwards either because unfortunately most states in the entire country have that exact same problem.

It's more a problem with the country as a whole than one specific state.