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Nobody underage should ever cum. Mandatory reversible anti-cum birth control should be put on everyone until they reach 18, at which point we can see if they are socially, physically, and emotionally ready to procreate.
 

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It seems to me that the proper response would be to remove underage sexuality from both cultures, not condone it in both.

And for the record, "degeneracy" seems like a rather tame term when specifically discussing the sexualization of minors, or people who perpetrate sexual violence.
Good luck with that. You would not only need to change the culture but you would also need to change how humans work so they only started getting horny when they reached the age of maturity.

Then maybe you should pick a different word combo, rather then one racists love to use to describe race mixing.
 
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No, they cannot, because they have fundamentally different creation processes. Art is about expression, sending a message, being uncompromising to one's vision. Selling a product is to think about how to make a profit out of the creation process, where the expression is directly based on making the piece marketable and profitable. There is art that is marketable. There is art that turns out to be profitable. But profit is never the goal of art.
Yes they can, your definition of art is good mostly, you have this weird little niggling detail at the back saying it has to be "uncompromising." That is nonsense, everything we do is compromise, to be part of a society is compromise, that doesn't make it bad. There are many limits on what can be done, limits on what is permitted, limits on the tools available, limits on time, limits on resources. There is no piece of art that was able to be created without compromise. Although you might be the same person that tried to argue that the communist manifesto and bible were art, in which case this is rather pointless.

Like in your example, why should I care if some random person makes a T-shirt out of my art? To that person, they saw my work and found it aesthetically pleasing, and either wants to keep it for themselves or seeks to sell it for profit, at which point the person that buys the T-shirt because they found it aesthetically pleasing. Either way, the art has accomplished something. It has also been propagated. You can only spin this negatively if your primary concern is making a profit.
Then its not really your art anymore is it, they have claimed it. Maybe you have enough resources to keep making art with losing out on the potential revenue from it, but not all artists do, in fact, most don't. Assuming they are trying to make it full time as an artist and not just having fun with art on the side of their real job.
 

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Good luck with that. You would not only need to change the culture but you would also need to change how humans work so they only started getting horny when they reached the age of maturity.

Then maybe you should pick a different word combo, rather then one racists love to use to describe race mixing.
I don't think that paedophilia is that ingrained in either western or eastern culture, not do I think that it's somehow natural or normal. Nor should the sexualization of children be commercialized, and sold as a product to adults. I don't think stopping the existance of these products is as difficult as you claim, but even if it was, I can't think of a nobler endeavor.
 

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I don't think that paedophilia is that ingrained in either western or eastern culture, not do I think that it's somehow natural or normal. Nor should the sexualization of children be commercialized, and sold as a product to adults
Aren't teenagers also sold titillating material featuring people within their age group? How are you distinguishing between a product sold to teenagers, and a product sold to adults?

Was the sex scene in Life is Strange 2 meant for teenage boys and girls, or was it written for adults, being rated M for Mature, and all. How old was Sean (the character in that game), again? 16?

The only way anyone is ever going to completely stop the existence of such products is if we refuse to accept that anyone under the age of 18 has any sexual interest at all. No more teenage romance in books or movies ever again. Nobody can ever depict an accurate teenage relationship in media because that would be "commercialization". Is that what you want?
 
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I don't think that paedophilia is that ingrained in either western or eastern culture, not do I think that it's somehow natural or normal. Nor should the sexualization of children be commercialized, and sold as a product to adults. I don't think stopping the existance of these products is as difficult as you claim, but even if it was, I can't think of a nobler endeavor.
I'm not convinced that it isn't natural, girls become capable of becoming pregnant long before they are legal, so to speak. It wasn't that long ago when you had plenty of ads that were clearly, weird.
 

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Aren't teenagers also sold titillating material featuring people within their age group? How are you distinguishing between a product sold to teenagers, and a product sold to adults?
I don't have to distinguish at all, any product that depicts sexual acts involving a minor should be illegal, regardless of the audience. This is different from saying that teenagers have sex with other teenagers, and should be educated so that they can practice it safely. I'm not sure why you are attempting to equate two ideas that are distinctly seperate.

I'm not convinced that it isn't natural, girls become capable of becoming pregnant long before they are legal, so to speak. It wasn't that long ago when you had plenty of ads that were clearly, weird.
Your not convinced that wanting to have sex with children isn't natural?
 
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Your not convinced that wanting to have sex with children isn't natural?
When you claim its un-natural, you are implying it doesn't happen in nature, but that isn't the case for pretty much any sex act. For instance, the male stoat will sometimes have sex with the, ugh, infant female of its species and because their species has a delayed gestation by the time she is fully grown, the next year, she will be ready to give birth.

So there you go, its natural, you are making the mistake of thinking natural = good and un-natural = bad.
 
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When you claim its un-natural, you are implying it doesn't happen in nature, but that isn't the case for pretty much any sex act. For instance, the male stoat will sometimes have sex with the, ugh, infant female of its species and because their species has a delayed gestation by the time she is fully grown, the next year, she will be ready to give birth.

So there you go, its natural, you are making the mistake of thinking natural = good and un-natural = bad.
Did we just go pro-pedophile?
 

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any product that depicts sexual acts involving a minor should be illegal
That's fair.

That would also mean burning a whole bunch of books like Stephen King's IT, Snow Crash, probably the Twilight books (I dunno, I haven't read them) and any other book that contains any mention of anyone under [insert local age of consent] having sex.

Would you be okay with that?

Did we just go pro-pedophile?
Why would you think that?
 

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Did we just go pro-pedophile?
There are very good arguments against it, but so far he hasn't used any of them.

That's fair.

That would also mean burning a whole bunch of books like Stephen King's IT, Snow Crash, probably the Twilight books (I dunno, I haven't read them) and any other book that contains any mention of anyone under [insert local age of consent] having sex.

Would you be okay with that?
It would actually mean going further than that, it would mean pretty much getting rid of any media with anyone under age in it. Since even something like Adventure time has Finn being interested in girls and such in a way that could lead to the dreaded sexualization.
 

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It would actually mean going further than that, it would mean pretty much getting rid of any media with anyone under age in it. Since even something like Adventure time has Finn being interested in girls and such in a way that could lead to the dreaded sexualization.
Yeah. Hey, @fOx , what do you define as a "sexual act"? Making out? A peck on the cheek? Hugging? Flirting? Peeking through a hole into the girls' locker room? Someone getting a boner?

How many books would need to be burned under your reign?
 
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Yeah. Hey, @fOx , what do you define as a "sexual act"? Making out? A peck on the cheek? Hugging? Flirting? Peeking through a hole into the girls' locker room? Someone getting a boner?
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There are very good arguments against it, but so far he hasn't used any of them.



It would actually mean going further than that, it would mean pretty much getting rid of any media with anyone under age in it. Since even something like Adventure time has Finn being interested in girls and such in a way that could lead to the dreaded sexualization.
Any work showing sexual acts with minors. And im not talking about a peck on the cheek. Most stories wouldn't be impacted. But most anime probably would be made illegal.

Damn, probably some JRPG's too. Undertale has those dating sims, for instance. And Persona.
 

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My partner walked in on me reading this and stated, "WTF is that" followed by "you walk in the wrong cricles online"

She also didn't accept the Libertarian/ Hebephilia thing as a joke but that's maybe because I had to explain it to her
Pedophilia is never a joke.
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Did we just go pro-pedophile?
This is merely the after effect of an excess consumption of a martial entrenched in pornographic imagery and storytelling which effects the standards and minutia of sexuality and its limits of acceptable evolutionary basis and morality but when devoid of such media with a substantial period recuperation and hopefully reintegration the notion of sexuality by scepticism, mainly sexual scepticism of maturity, will become an embarrassing concept. But that's an implication by which the threshold is not exceeded and individual sexuality does not void collective sexuality. Such a state I pity on Kafirs with eccentric Japanophilia.
 
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