Chris Ryan thinks us nerds would make good soldiers...

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badgersprite

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Snork Maiden said:
nunqual said:
Well, except for griefers of course
Multiple friendly fire incidents followed by juvenile laughing? "Why are these drones hitting our tanks!?"
"Why are those bomb craters forming a shape just like the troll face?! FFFFFFUUUUU--!"

I don't know. I'm hardly considering applying to the military. My personal and political views kind of get in the way of that, to say the least. But, hey, if a nerd out there needs work... *shrugs*
 

Nouw

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Quaxar said:
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No, I still don't find killing Muslims with a remote drone in Afghanistan from an armchair to be any bit "entertaining", thank you.
Really? You and I are two very different people.
My thoughts exactly, and I don't care what religion they are, I'll kill people from an armchair. Muslims, Christians, atheists, Pastafarians...I don't discriminate. Now make with the shooty and the boomy and the brain splattery goodness.
You are a sick person, really. Why the hell would you kill Pastafarians? Do you want the pirate era to end once and for all? Do you, punk?
Are you asking:

"Do you want terrorism in the sea to end?" I don't know about you but people die because of Pirates and stopping that would be awesome.

It'd be fun but you'd only have 1 life and each one would cost $10,000+?
 

FalloutJack

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Wasn't there a Robin Williams movie that touched base on this?

I'm sorry, but I am not in for this. I am not a lonely soldier boy OR qualified as a geek. I'm not even that great at PC games, so yeah. To me, it's really not worth it, because then us drone pilots will start to get the wrong idea because we attack with impunity, and then something will go WTF morally wrong, no doubt. You can't sell this to me on coolness factor alone, either, because it's not cool enough to me. Come back when you have Mobile Suits and I have a full-prosthetic body.
 

Talshere

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It makes sense, we come all but pre trained. A hardcore gamer would sit down and within an hour be a competent pilot with no instruction, and given a week could probably equal any of the army trained operators, if not sooner.

I think part of the problem with nerds as actual soldiers would be our horrific tendency to over analyse things. Its the same thing that makes us bad with women. We worry to much.
 

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99.98% of everyone who'd consider themselves "gamers" look exactly like this guy.

They remaining .02% are college kids on dozens of anti-psychotic medications who have plenty of violent potential, but are sadly lacking in the "teamwork" thing militaries have kinda been based around since the dawn of history.

But at the same time, I wanna text someone "im in ur base killin ur d00dz" IRL at least once, so what the hell - go for it.
 

Talshere

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Krythe said:

99.98% of everyone who'd consider themselves "gamers" look exactly like this guy.

They remaining .02% are college kids on dozens of anti-psychotic medications who have plenty of violent potential, but are sadly lacking in the "teamwork" thing militaries have kinda been based around since the dawn of history.

But at the same time, I wanna text someone "im in ur base killin ur d00dz" IRL at least once, so what the hell - go for it.
I object to this statment.....

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Though I am in Uni....
And do have long hair....
And I do tend to roll female toons....
Im not on drugs though (ok an antacid) and BMI saying Im within the acceptable healthy range....
 

Freedomario

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even though i am honored, there is no way i am joining the military, ad i vowed to never kill a living thing (by my standards)
 

Technocrat

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Quaxar said:
Hook it up to a Playstation controller and I'm in! What? I like the Ps controller...
Okay fine, I'd still do it with another controller. Sounds like the kind of job I'd do if my study to develop and build these drones (or something else robotic at least) failed.
I know in the British Army, the drones they operate in the field (like Phoenix) are flown with XB360 controllers - it's probably no harder to fly them with PS3 controllers either!
 

Wardnath

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Nouw said:
Are you asking:

"Do you want terrorism in the sea to end?" I don't know about you but people die because of Pirates and stopping that would be awesome.

It'd be fun but you'd only have 1 life and each one would cost $10,000+?
I think you should add a few more zeroes to the end of that number.
 

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Actually, it's probable... Though I can't quite see myself as a drone pilot, and I don't think this would apply to everyone.

I can, however, offer into evidence a personal experience of mine. I'm obviously a hardcore gamer, and my primary interest is in FPS-style games. Until just this last year, I'd never touched a real gun, and had only seen one.

Recently, a friend of mine and I went out to shoot. My friend has a 12-gauge shotgun, and his father owns several handguns. I'd shot the shotgun less than ten times at still objects (boxes, bottles, etc.) and never missed a shot, not even the first-ever time I'd pulled the trigger. I went on to moving targets almost immediately, clay pigeons, and out of over 35 that I shot at, I only missed tw0.

The same was true for the .45 and the .22.

Again, I'd never even /touched/ a gun of any sort before.

Perhaps I'm just naturally talented, but (and this may make me sound crazy) I find myself relying on the same things when I'm actually shooting a target as I am when I'm playing a videogame. I can't honestly say what I can contribute my ridiculously-good shooting skills to, but I personally do think that it has something to do with my own gaming experiences.
 

Talshere

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Jezzeh said:
Actually, it's probable... Though I can't quite see myself as a drone pilot, and I don't think this would apply to everyone.

I can, however, offer into evidence a personal experience of mine. I'm obviously a hardcore gamer, and my primary interest is in FPS-style games. Until just this last year, I'd never touched a real gun, and had only seen one.

Recently, a friend of mine and I went out to shoot. My friend has a 12-gauge shotgun, and his father owns several handguns. I'd shot the shotgun less than ten times at still objects (boxes, bottles, etc.) and never missed a shot, not even the first-ever time I'd pulled the trigger. I went on to moving targets almost immediately, clay pigeons, and out of over 35 that I shot at, I only missed tw0.

The same was true for the .45 and the .22.

Again, I'd never even /touched/ a gun of any sort before.

Perhaps I'm just naturally talented, but (and this may make me sound crazy) I find myself relying on the same things when I'm actually shooting a target as I am when I'm playing a videogame. I can't honestly say what I can contribute my ridiculously-good shooting skills to, but I personally do think that it has something to do with my own gaming experiences.
I'm very similar, I took part in a simulation game type thing ambush the army use to help train their soldiers during a careers fare. They used real SA80's modded for the game, so real weight, recoil etc. (I should point out here In from the UK so guns arnt even legal, my total previous experience is BB guns) I did 2 sets. One left handed and one right handed. Right handed I got something like 30% accuracy, 30 mins later (on a different "level" Ill point out so I didn't know what was coming) I did one left handed and from 3 mags I achieved a 98% hit rate, missing only on the last set of targets, where the guy told me I should be using the full auto since Id had it and this was the last wave approaching.


I realise that in actual combat there are other factors. But you gota admit, we are kinda pretrained for this crap.
 

lightningmagurn

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Having done more shooting than average, and living in close proximity to the military, I think that games are poor training aids.
 

SenseOfTumour

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Sure, most of us wouldn't sign up for this, but say conscription came around and you had to sign up, wouldn't this be better than front line, in the dust and sand, being shot at?

Also, imagine if we took out some high ranking enemies, SOME news sources might even dare to run with 'gamer applies skills to real life - claims military victory over xxx'.
 

Ldude893

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Remember that incident where two helicopter pilots slaughtered an entire band of civilians after mistaking them as insurgents, and they even joked about it while and after committing the act?

Yeah, I don't think players of video games are capable of assisting in real-life warfare, even in a support role.
 

ayuri

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Noone here thinks some will become too cocky and start disrupting peace and TKing.