Get a small enough toy company and being distributed at a national chain is a very big deal. I'm surprised that there's that much of a market for these games. Don't know whether I'm surprised in a good way or a bad way.wammnebu said:
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Agree, the thing is that a lot of people want to make Christian games but water down what was said in the Bible.MarsProbe said:
I think a Survival Horror Game that takes place in the End times would be an awesome idea.
Trying to survive as the world crumbles around you and people are going insane, maybe even living long enough to see the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse, that would be cool
And iv never played "Rise of the Antichrist" but iv heard its pretty bad if not repetitive and boring.
Agree, the thing is that a lot of people want to make Christian games but water down what was said in the Bible.Gigaguy64 said:
I think a Survival Horror Game that takes place in the End times would be an awesome idea.
Trying to survive as the world crumbles around you and people are going insane, maybe even living long enough to see the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse, that would be cool
And iv never played "Rise of the Antichrist" but iv heard its pretty bad if not repetitive and boring.[/quote]
Aye, and going by some of the events that go down in the Old Testament, they could probably go all out with the subject matter if they wanted to. Plus going with the end times stuff - a game based on some of the events in the book of Revelation might work. Some of that is pretty far out as well. They just got to draw their material from the right sources.
Wait, clean healthy alternative? Games based upon books set in the time told by Revalations, the most demented book in the New Testement (you know, because its the end of the world) where the only people still around are those who are damned/unrepentant sinners are somehow good Christian values? So either they're bowderlizing the Bible, and in doing so are lying about God's word which is a sin, or they're being 100% true, in which case these games while Christian in nature should be as bad as God of War in the end (making them Dante's Inferno or Darksiders again).
Seriously, the combination of the Old Testement and the last few books of the New Testement are reasons why no Christian group should be allowed to condemn games for violence or sex.
Anyways as for this, I'd have to say it doesn't make sense in this age to release games in such small regions, though I understand why they didn't do online distribution. The people they're probably marking to more than likely aren't checking online for games, and probably don't even go to game stores either, but do indeed shop at Walmart and check out the electronic section only once in awhile. That being said, it's still a little strange to see such a limited market for consumers when this does indeed have the potential to be big, and it may indeed provide a positive opportunity for games as a medium.
Bookstores have sections devoted to Christian books (and some have other religions as well), why can't games as well. This might actually help out with consumers as genres are more clearly defined as well due to the want to keep these games seperate from others. To see why this is important: examine most every other store for mediums that you know. Music, books, and movies are all arranged by their respective genres when on the shelves, yet games even in stores that specialize in them don't have this yet. Wouldn't it help you when you're browsing and you come across a game you've never heard of to know what genre it is? And once again, when genres are made more clear, even nongamers will know what they are, which will earn games a bit more respect as a medium.
Seriously, the combination of the Old Testement and the last few books of the New Testement are reasons why no Christian group should be allowed to condemn games for violence or sex.
Anyways as for this, I'd have to say it doesn't make sense in this age to release games in such small regions, though I understand why they didn't do online distribution. The people they're probably marking to more than likely aren't checking online for games, and probably don't even go to game stores either, but do indeed shop at Walmart and check out the electronic section only once in awhile. That being said, it's still a little strange to see such a limited market for consumers when this does indeed have the potential to be big, and it may indeed provide a positive opportunity for games as a medium.
Bookstores have sections devoted to Christian books (and some have other religions as well), why can't games as well. This might actually help out with consumers as genres are more clearly defined as well due to the want to keep these games seperate from others. To see why this is important: examine most every other store for mediums that you know. Music, books, and movies are all arranged by their respective genres when on the shelves, yet games even in stores that specialize in them don't have this yet. Wouldn't it help you when you're browsing and you come across a game you've never heard of to know what genre it is? And once again, when genres are made more clear, even nongamers will know what they are, which will earn games a bit more respect as a medium.
I wish Christians would stick to their guns a bit more. Christian rock, Christian games, etc.. seems like they're always whoring out, trying to get in on the next big thing, and is it worth it? The Left Behind games are basically war games, right? Jesus wouldn't be down with that. If I was a Christian, I'd make an "art" game, something touching and sweet, something to communicate the message of Christ.. not just a Christian-branded version of the shit that's already out there. This shit makes Jesus writhe and quake in his grave (it's underneath the Vatican.)
So long as they don't start making slander to promote their games and don't take these too far (Such as some game that apparently has you controlling a religious army to kill the 'anti-christs', aka non-believers), I see no harm in this. Though for kids, it would suck to get one of these games on your birthday instead of whatever else they might have been wanting.
YAA, we live in a country that allows anyone to say anything they want, or worship any being they want to.
So please stop complaining about the free-market making this game. There is a small demand for these titles. I will probably pick up one copy to see if it is worth investing my time defending.
I remember a really good Christian game call "Spiritual Warfare". You threw fruit at people causing them to believe. Also, you collected the full Armor of God that did various stuff. It was on the old Gameboy and maybe the NES. I miss that game I wonder where I put it.
So please stop complaining about the free-market making this game. There is a small demand for these titles. I will probably pick up one copy to see if it is worth investing my time defending.
I remember a really good Christian game call "Spiritual Warfare". You threw fruit at people causing them to believe. Also, you collected the full Armor of God that did various stuff. It was on the old Gameboy and maybe the NES. I miss that game I wonder where I put it.
Ok, I'm a Christian and I wouldn't buy this crap for the same reason I never shop in a Christian book store. Which is a theological reason, so I guess it belongs in another forum topic but I'm lazy SO YOU'LL NEVER KNOW!!!!!! Man I need a job....
Hur hur, mocking the Christian games how quaint, how witty, how I strive to be as funny as you guys one day.
In all seriousness I say good for them. If people want to buy these games all the power to them. I see no problem with a religious group making their own games, if they're well done buy them, if not, don't buy them, not a difficult concept. Now if someone is buying these games simply because they're Christian then I have a problem because then a game that's terrible in design is getting sales it shouldn't. Perhaps then the studio can be spurred to make the games high enough quality to draw customers, not on faith, but rather because the game is actually decent. Besides I'm sure someone who's stark athiest isn't going to convert because of a Christian game.
Marketing them as light family fun, however isn't such a great idea. As said before me, the Bible isn't exactly family friendly to begin with so I think, instead work on upping the actual links to the Bible, violence or not, rate the accordingly, and work on a drawing story, good game mechanics and you can get something Christian, something fun and something I'll most likely buy if it fulfills those requirements.
And then perhaps the "mature audience" will stop mocking you.
In all seriousness I say good for them. If people want to buy these games all the power to them. I see no problem with a religious group making their own games, if they're well done buy them, if not, don't buy them, not a difficult concept. Now if someone is buying these games simply because they're Christian then I have a problem because then a game that's terrible in design is getting sales it shouldn't. Perhaps then the studio can be spurred to make the games high enough quality to draw customers, not on faith, but rather because the game is actually decent. Besides I'm sure someone who's stark athiest isn't going to convert because of a Christian game.
Marketing them as light family fun, however isn't such a great idea. As said before me, the Bible isn't exactly family friendly to begin with so I think, instead work on upping the actual links to the Bible, violence or not, rate the accordingly, and work on a drawing story, good game mechanics and you can get something Christian, something fun and something I'll most likely buy if it fulfills those requirements.
And then perhaps the "mature audience" will stop mocking you.
I agree, the potential awesomeness is.. well... awesome.MarsProbe said:
Things get watered down for a few reasons sadly
1) "G rating or low"
2) "Safe for kids!"
3) Most Christians focus so closely on 'lead a good life' etc. that they forget that 'leading a good life' used to mean "Be a total bad ass!"
Abraham was willing to stab and cook his son because God said "do it" but then didn't
David, destroyed armies and opposed kings to get to where he was. He then sent out a multiple year long search for the son of one of his closest friends turned enemy so that he could say "Hey, according to the promise I had with your father I have to offer you the chance to live with me in the castle to become my son" despite the fact the kid hated him
Soloman, was prepared to CUT A BABY IN HALF to solve a dispute between two bickering women, he then wrote a book for the bible which is a long as hell love letter between two people describing how sexy they think each other are and how much they want to have sex with each other.
Jesus, saw that the church was doing things horribly wrong, so instead of just asking them "please stop doing that" he TORE THE PLACE APART
Peter (disciple), when he was going to be crucified (the most horrible method of execution of the time) he refused to be crucified in the same way as Jesus was so he requested to be crucified UPSIDE DOWN
I don't care whether you believe in the bible/Christianity or not I just have to be honest, Christians today have lost their balls and need a righteous kick up the ass to remind them "Stop being passive aggressive pussies!"
It alway fascinates me how chirstians, who fancy themselves a book religion, keep sticking to the idea of violence-free "healthy" media. Has any of these people ever read the bible? That thing is more violent than most fantasy-novels.
I would like to quote psalm 68:21
"Surely God will crush the heads of his enemies, the hairy crowns of those who go on in their sins."
Or another classic: Deuteronomy 7:10
"Rewarding his haters to their face with destruction; he will have no mercy on his hater, but will give him open punishment."
Or curse chirstians are never short of excuses for this kind of stuff, popular ones are:
That's the old testement, jesus reverted that! - Jep, good point, so why exactly keep modern bibles on draging this thing around like a piece of toilet-paper, stuck at ones shoe?
It's open to interpretation, you can't take the bible literary! - I'm always open to suggestions of how to interprete "crush the heads of his enemies" so that it boils down to "Love and happiness forever after."
I'm not trying to spread hate against religious poeple here, I'm trying to raise awareness about why these people thing christian = happy, peace powerpuff-guys.
I would like to quote psalm 68:21
"Surely God will crush the heads of his enemies, the hairy crowns of those who go on in their sins."
Or another classic: Deuteronomy 7:10
"Rewarding his haters to their face with destruction; he will have no mercy on his hater, but will give him open punishment."
Or curse chirstians are never short of excuses for this kind of stuff, popular ones are:
That's the old testement, jesus reverted that! - Jep, good point, so why exactly keep modern bibles on draging this thing around like a piece of toilet-paper, stuck at ones shoe?
It's open to interpretation, you can't take the bible literary! - I'm always open to suggestions of how to interprete "crush the heads of his enemies" so that it boils down to "Love and happiness forever after."
I'm not trying to spread hate against religious poeple here, I'm trying to raise awareness about why these people thing christian = happy, peace powerpuff-guys.
I agree here. Otherwise flaming on this game puts you right into the same seat as Michael Atkinson and Jack Thompson.Sir John the Net Knight said:
Uh...there already are Muslim video games. They just aren't very popular because Muslims are less than 1% of America's population.hem dazon 90 said:Funny thing being if there was any Islam themed games thered be an uproar
gotta love double standards
http://games.muslimvideo.com/index.php
http://www.newser.com/story/67423/iran-launches-islamic-video-games.html
There already are Muslim videogames. The vast majority of Americans aren't prejudiced against muslims at all. While Barack Hussein Obama might be Christian, his name is clearly Arab/Muslim, and we voted for him anyways. The perception that Americans are bigoted against Muslims is in itself bigoted- and horribly innaccurate.
We already know that religious extremists don't represent Muslims in general, just as the Ku Klux Klan doesn't represent white Americans in general.