City of Heroes? More like City of Bias (Happy NOW? )

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CRcold

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Hi i'm a long time fan of Escapist and i have no idea if this is the right section to post this, but this isn't obvious a "Love" of City of heroes, Is me trying to keep the good Money spending Gamer, away from the Biast game known as "City of heroes" a place where everything goes wrong.

If your like me you enjoy the good old Roleplay, whats better than Roleplaying a villian right? i've always enjoyed being the villian, And COH does enforce a Wonderful selection of clothing, over half you have to buy in VERY large amounts (One piece of clothing is worth $5..and its just a Coat.)

Now allow me to get to the reason Why you should stay away from COH.

The reason why i have called it City of Biast is because I have recently just read the terms and such over the game and i just can't help but face palm over the Money sucking Trap they have lead me in.

Many of you would know RPG's have their trolls, So you can RP being the most badass Villian ever, you'll still get some Loon named "Old man Bob" running up to you and saying something retarded (Hes been banned 3 times..and he still pays to play an idiot...Good god the children of the future suck BALLS.)

A rule of NCsoft basicly says "You may not Threaten, Give unwanted attention to.." Can't remember the rest but its basicly what you'd call "Harrass". The amount of harrassing thats been going on, It surprises me to No end. even in their Support they have a little dot you can click that reads "Harrassment" And if you send it away 30min later you may get an -email- Telling you nothing could be done, or the players could not be found (Wonder why..) If you are lucky enough to even GET an admin, their response is tipicly "Who is it, Login name? We'll look into it.". From what i am told from the community there, Admins don't do anything in terms of harrassment, They expect -us- to do the work for them, EG: Use ignore. IGNORE does not stop everyone.


A second rule of NCsoft, No using Sexual Language of any kind anywhere within the game _> And yet- Check the common chat, nearly everyone swears. So What the hell does this admin team do all day. If they are being PAID, and i was there boss, i'd want them fired. I'd prefer admins that Cyber than admins that do Nothing but take a paycheque.They have a profanity Filter and an option to turn it off, but they don't want to swear...So its like they are setting players Up to be Suspended -_-

Now to the main point of my anger towards this game and WHY you should stay away from it, The above was just so you can understand the game and how you'll be treated (like an idiot basicly. Unless your level 50. then you'll be treated like a noob unless some friends are "Long time gamers")

Two nights ago i was RPing in the D club (The hotspot of RP basicly) i was standing at the bar playing out my character (A down to core ***** pritty much who thought she owned everything.) And a player walks up to me, a quick read of her profile tells me shes RP experienced her IC race "Ogre" A little new but mmk. She Immediately starts Enforcing her characters lore onto my character and when she realises i won't Accept it, she walks off to the corner of the room with her friends and starts PMing me, Treating me like a complete noob who doesn't know what "Godmodding" is. (She clearly didn't.). I quickly place her on Ignore once i have had my say and get back to RPing with my friends (Dragonkin clan ftw.) The next day i get on and i am Rping with my friends to the side of the D bar and i see a Dragonkin walk in, I was excited to see another possible member for my clan....until i read his profile and his name slowly...His name was a Male version + mockery of my Characters name (Mine: Queen Pythina. His: Lord Pythionusthemom) His profile read "The First Dragon EVA" i quickly put him on ignore and i tried rping but what he was saying to them clearly bothered me when the conversation went to "mating". I seen Another dragonkin walk in, same attire as the first, Lord-something and his Info was basicly the same. I knew who the hell sent them so i quickly checked the bar, Immediately i seen the Ogre girl from the night before standing in the centre of D looking towards me as if to say "Whatupbitch" I quickly Typed out a support thread and sent it to harrassment, and i ignore the Dragonkinnoobs until they get bored and logged onto their original characters, which, surprise surprise, were ogres as well. (NEVER Feed the Troll. or in this case, ogre.) I am logging out for the day getting bored and wanting to play something different so i check my emails quickly, i see i got two from the admining staff of COH. First: "we could not find The two you reported, are you sure you got there names right?" So obviously they deleted their characters after.

The second email read: "Dear Trixie, We have given your account a 72 hour Suspension for Sexual language." it then listed some examples One was given to the two trolls in Local chat (Which the admin could have used to Ban them as well) And the others were all private chats to my friends.

All in all I have had enough of this game and its trolls, they have lost a player and i hope they lose alot more than when TOR comes out. I am trying desperately to get my money back to play WOW atleast, cause they have an admin system that WORKS time to time.

Checking the Refund policy they do not give refunds blahblahblah Sueing action blahblahblah. But the way they have written the rules pritty much contradicts the game itself so I'm still going to fight hard for my money.

Thanks for reading and stay away from COH if you want a good time, You'll spend alot of money on some shiney stuff, and then get trolled half the time by some idiot.
 

MaxwellEdison

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Argumentum ad Hitlerum means you lose the debate automatically, do you really want to make it your opening argument?
 

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CRcold said:
Two nights ago i was RPing in the D club
I assume you're on Virtue. If so you should know perfectly well that Pocket D is fuelled by Drama and bad RP. It's the Goldshire of City of Heroes and I avoid it like the plague for exactly that reason.

The second email read: "Dear Trixie, We have given your account a 72 hour Suspension for Sexual language." it then listed some examples One was given to the two trolls in Local chat (Which the admin could have used to Ban them as well) And the others were all private chats to my friends.
I lol'd.

City is a Teen rated game. I'm not remotely surprised you got modsmacked for it.
 

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MaxwellEdison said:
Argumentum ad Hitlerum means you lose the debate automatically, do you really want to make it your opening argument?
Amen. Heil Godwin!

Oh and as an avid Player of Guildwars, another Ncsoft game, I've gotten nothing but quick response from the Mods. Oh and two words.

Champions Online.
 

CRcold

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Technically Goldshire has been "Cleaned" from what i have read. Honestly havn't been on WoW for Months due to some crazy "ban" crap i am trying to work out. Too many fake emails to know the difference.

The game is not fun..If anything i found myself RPing more than leveling (If you want to Level fast, Honestly, Ignore the missions..you'll only need them up to level 3. then you just AE the rest and make millions.)

I am sure Many games were Rated to be Teen games but they weren't this Crazed above A swear -OVER PRIVATE CHAT- Honestly, all i said was the F word at the end of a sentance. I am saying its a nazi Game because face it, They have a set of rules, but D is more like "heres your playground, do w.e you want, Don't come to us or else"

C.O i have tried playing...it makes me want to puke just from the creation screen -_-
 

Pearwood

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If you're so quick to Godwin you deserve all the banning you get. Please can we make it a bannable offence here too? But yeah, you broke rules, you got banned... what do you expect? And since when is that hellhole the hotspot for good RP?

CRcold said:
Technically Goldshire has been "Cleaned" from what i have read.
Hahahaha... no. They try but it's still a nightmare.
 

CRcold

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Don't see anywhere else you can RP with....40-60 other people?..

"2011-11-28 "Queen Pythina:Trixiedixie", 0, [Chat], "(""Look into my eyes- your in the future\c but your not really there\c yet you are\c you can't smell me\c All my attacks auto hit you. You can't do anything oh no you shape shifted\c i turned into a giant demon and spear your eyes- i'm on a horse -fucks off- "
"2011-11-28 ", "Queen Pythina:Trixiedixie", 0, [Chat], l (Yeah and you two are standing here Next to me as if your even included. SO please trolls\c Supalilly and Service man\c Go fuck yourselves.) "
^- those are the Quotes i was Suspended for, I am over 18 and i am sure over 60% of the game is over 18 Considering they PAY for the game monthly...So you think they'd have a LITTLE system for adults...Or even A WARNING system..They never warn you about anything.
 

Neverhoodian

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I suggest you read this the next time you're inclined to compare MMO moderators to one of the most oppressive, brutal and hateful regimes in human history responsible for the horrific deaths of millions:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodwinsLaw

The two don't even compare, and you're essentially trivializing the evil of Naziism and the horrors its victims had to endure (some of whom are still alive and have to deal with the memories of their suffering every day). Basically your analogy is bad and you should feel bad.
 

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CRcold said:
The game is not fun..If anything i found myself RPing more than leveling (If you want to Level fast, Honestly, Ignore the missions..you'll only need them up to level 3. then you just AE the rest and make millions.)
AE was a gift to the power levellers for sure, but if that's all you've done no wonder you find it boring. Personally I enjoy my time in CoH, and never set foot in the xp farms.

I am sure Many games were Rated to be Teen games but they weren't this Crazed above A swear -OVER PRIVATE CHAT- Honestly, all i said was the F word at the end of a sentance. I am saying its a nazi Game because face it, They have a set of rules, but D is more like "heres your playground, do w.e you want, Don't come to us or else"
Rubbish. There is absolutely nothing, explicit or implicit, in the terms and conditions that gives any kind of exception to Pocket D. Regardless, it's a wretched hive of scum and villainy and a magnet for the kind of people who give MMO RPers a bad name.
 

Gustof26

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Pearwood said:
If you're so quick to Godwin you deserve all the banning you get. Please can we make it a bannable offence here too? But yeah, you broke rules, you got banned... what do you expect? And since when is that hellhole the hotspot for good RP?
I'm with out on making Godwin's law...well a law. It should be right up there with telling people your link leads to Tv Tropes.

I've never played city of heros, champions online claimed my superheroes soul long ago, yet I have to ponder why you simply didn't go to a different server. Better yet I would have changed the lore of my character to suit the trolls in such a way that your still the winner.

"In the beginning there was the first dragon. A male, though it bore a name so horrible and unpronounceable by and sentient creature that he was forgotten. Historians have focused on a far more important part of Dragon lore, Queen Pythina."
 

Damien Granz

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Honestly most of your problem seems to be about a ToS that is pretty standard fare for almost all MMOs and most online spots and games. Also, always report @Global names, anyways.

As for harassing newbies, unless this changed real recently, F2Pers can't use Tell/Broadcast/Email/SG channels, so I'm sorry to tell you that it's not the 'unwashed masses' harassing you, it's other payers.

As for the pricing of things, there is honestly very few cosmetic objects actually for sale, and only a handful of power sets, and 2 main archetypes and the 4 H/VEATs (2 of which are almost entirely the same, Warshade and Peacebringer, and 2 of which are very, very thematically similar, Arachnos Soldiers and Widows) out of 14, none of which are 'mandatory' to the game or lock you out of any type of play (except arguably full pets for Masterminds, which I guess can be a problem).

You still have a shitload of options in both customization and play style, out of the 'box' for free, and you can now create a 'Villain' archetype for Hero side play without the need of the Going Rogue expansion (though you're locked into that decision afterwards unless you purchase that, but that's still something for nothing).

As for the whole 'custom costumes cost 5 dollars' thing, typically you don't have to buy an entire set. PlayNC has been actually surprisingly forgiving, giving players the ability to buy just 1 'item' out of an entire themed set. I've never really seen many other games do this. Typically if you want X Shoes, you're buying the entire X Set, and that's it. The sets do tend to run 400 points, and also often contain a power or feature (because they're modeled after the Super Boasters, which gave access to different things, such as the Science Origin booster giving access to the super tailor, Magic giving access to the Tarot Card power, etc).

Hell, if anybody should complain it's people that bought say, the whole Natural Origin pack set for one mask or the Ninja Run power, then later had just that mask buyable, or later had all travel powers opened up at 4 instead of 14 (completely nullifying the use of Ninja/Beast Run for most builds, except as a thematically cool power).

As for the RP you saw, 1) LoL, Pocket D, and 2) Don't insert yourself into ERP without permission I guess and 3) Remember @Global names, as they're the only ones that matter for anything.
 

isometry

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Learn this lesson: the mods don't look at what you say unless someone reports it. You can swear all you want with your friends, just don't swear at/around people that will report you.

Also check out Champions Online if your computer can handle it, the costumes look great and there is plenty for villains too. The mods in that game slack even harder than the mods in CoH, but you should still watch out for tattle-tails.
 

CRcold

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I have read Godwins law ty, Honestly didn't know what it was when it was first mentioned but i read it 2-3 minutes ago. Yes i am comparing a game to Naziism, What i am saying is if any of you actually read any of that. Is how come i get a 72 hour suspension over one word -One- word everyone in D uses every 10 seconds it seems, And i get in trouble AFTER i actually want some help against Trollers. They can't be bothered to Do anything to help the gaming community the way i have seen it the common law when it comes to Admins on COH is "Shoot first ask questions later" They have people Running around as Copyrighted material Characters, but -only- when you cause a fuss, will they do anything. If you want something done they will find an excuse Not to do it.


Also, Yes i have a VIP and One of those messages was Privately sent to a friend, The other i said to the to trolls Next to me. One of their policies actually Prohibits The use of "Unwanted Attention" Which is what these two trolls were doing. And i got their @globals And the admins ignored the fact i gave it to them -_- they just said "We can't find them, Are you sure you got it right?".
 

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...Wait... You're angry... because you have to follow a rule that's set almost everywhere outside the internet? Is clean language not good enough for you?

And that brings me to my next point, exactly how old are you?

EDIT: Also, plural nouns don't have apostrophes. "Nazi's" would be possessive, as in "the Nazi's ham sandwich".
 

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Gustof26 said:
I've never played city of heros, champions online claimed my superheroes soul long ago, yet I have to ponder why you simply didn't go to a different server. Better yet I would have changed the lore of my character to suit the trolls in such a way that your still the winner.
To be honest it really does sound like the OP was just being a bit of a dick and got what he deserved. I could be wrong but just the way it's written, the fact he flat out admits he was in the wrong and the Godwin makes me think this is just banrage.
 

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CRcold said:
Don't see anywhere else you can RP with....40-60 other people?..
"2011-11-28 "Queen Pythina:Trixiedixie", 0, [Chat], "(""Look into my eyes- your in the future\c but your not really there\c yet you are\c you can't smell me\c All my attacks auto hit you. You can't do anything oh no you shape shifted\c i turned into a giant demon and spear your eyes- i'm on a horse -fucks off- "
"2011-11-28 ", "Queen Pythina:Trixiedixie", 0, [Chat], l (Yeah and you two are standing here Next to me as if your even included. SO please trolls\c Supalilly and Service man\c Go fuck yourselves.) "
^- those are the Quotes i was Suspended for, I am over 18 and i am sure over 60% of the game is over 18 Considering they PAY for the game monthly...So you think they'd have a LITTLE system for adults...Or even A WARNING system..They never warn you about anything.
Right and you didn't send back a quick, "I feel something brush against my eye. Probably just some dust I tell myself." Your a roleplayer. This way you basically did them same you did in your response to them, and you wouldn't be breaking the rules.

I hope I'm not coming across as rude I'm simply suggesting other ways to deal with such problems because your bound to find them wherever you go. There were a myriad of was to deal with the issues your were facing and had faced in the past, posting on this forum and breaking Godwin's law is going a bit to far.

Pearwood said:
To be honest it really does sound like the OP was just being a bit of a dick and got what he deserved. I could be wrong but just the way it's written, the fact he flat out admits he was in the wrong and the Godwin makes me think this is just banrage.
I'm going to assume, and do correct me if I'm wrong CRcold, but I'm guessing we wanted to vent his anger out. I'm going to label him a dick for venting his anger. At most I'll offer some suggestions as to how he could deal with such matters in the future. Through trying to restore a bit of commen sense to the forums aside.

It's a bit ironic that you ignore their lore, then proceed to be offended when their ignore and mock yours. Not saying any party was in the right or in the wrong, just calling it as I see it. Once again correct me if I'm wrong.
 

CRcold

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"In the beginning there was the first dragon. A male, though it bore a name so horrible and unpronounceable by and sentient creature that he was forgotten. Historians have focused on a far more important part of Dragon lore, Queen Pythina."[/quote]

Where were you 2 nights ago?...-blinks-


And i did ignore them, i had them on Global Ignore lists, had there Global names Sent to the admins + Character names and I acted as if they completely didn't exist..But when you have someone who feeds trolls "Jo Kitty" She was talking to them and all i heard off of her was Something involving "mating" which just made me go "No way..'
 

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
Banning sexual language is on the exact same level as systematic torture and genocide, I completely agree.
Was kinda thinking the same thing. I can see how the game could be considered a kind of totalitarian system but comparing it to the nazi regime is prolly way more accurate. :p