Whats the appeal to them? What makes people join them? Is it just to see their name on a different leaderbored? And why would people change their gamertag (or ID) to what the clan is? And who here sees them as pointless?
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Let me guess, you're playing on Xbox live?
Then yes, Clans are entirely pointless.
In the mean time, see you on Steam.
Then yes, Clans are entirely pointless.
In the mean time, see you on Steam.
I'm not a fan of joining a clan, mostly because of the added responsibility, I don't like scheduling my free time.
Beyond that, I could see the general appeal to a clan. It tries to satisfy the urge to be a part of a group, a collective larger than yourself, cooperative elements add to the probability of success in competition, if that clan becomes successful the player wearing the brand of the clan bears a sign of respect, intimidation, and success to any who see their name. If the clan is unsuccessful than maybe the player who wants to join could help it rise from the ashes and become a good clan, there are inner and external politics with clans giving the players involved a metagame to play on the battlefield of the primary game. I could probably crank out more possible purposes for clans all day, so I'm gonna stop there, but I think those are probably the biggest influences on people who play in clans.
Beyond that, I could see the general appeal to a clan. It tries to satisfy the urge to be a part of a group, a collective larger than yourself, cooperative elements add to the probability of success in competition, if that clan becomes successful the player wearing the brand of the clan bears a sign of respect, intimidation, and success to any who see their name. If the clan is unsuccessful than maybe the player who wants to join could help it rise from the ashes and become a good clan, there are inner and external politics with clans giving the players involved a metagame to play on the battlefield of the primary game. I could probably crank out more possible purposes for clans all day, so I'm gonna stop there, but I think those are probably the biggest influences on people who play in clans.
I remember being in a clan playing Jedi Knight on some Microsoft sponsored IPX-wrapper online system... Never since. I set my own clan tag to SPQR, but I'm not affiliated with anyone.
On XBox CoD games I've played with a segment of a MurK clan that a friend of mine is a member of.
Edit: I personally prefer to not play with a clan because people fear clans and leave lobbies if they see a whole team they know is affiliated. On the other hand, if you see 4 different tags, you don't know that we're all friends who know how to work together.
On XBox CoD games I've played with a segment of a MurK clan that a friend of mine is a member of.
Edit: I personally prefer to not play with a clan because people fear clans and leave lobbies if they see a whole team they know is affiliated. On the other hand, if you see 4 different tags, you don't know that we're all friends who know how to work together.
I've had mixed experiences of clans. Early on I knew and talked to quite a few members of a clan called PHOBIA. They were good guys, and just had a relaxed atmosphere of joking and playing Gears.
Some clans though seem to be a collective of similar minded fools who approach the idea of clans with a gang mentality and seem to think it makes them superior to all others.
Some clans though seem to be a collective of similar minded fools who approach the idea of clans with a gang mentality and seem to think it makes them superior to all others.
Have to give you respect for that post. Seems like a lot of thought went into it, but either way I'm impressed and in agreeance.smv1172 said:
This guy got it right. Playing in clans can be fun, played in a clan war is different than just playing a random match, because of the added cooperation and that people think of the other players on the team and sacrifice accordingly.DazZ. said:
As for myself, I used to play in a danish BF1942 clan back in the heydays of that game. It was immensely fun and added to the already considerable fun and time I spent in that game. I haven't really played in clans since then, since I'm not all that interested in the direction FPS games have been taken today, in regards to CoD and MoH. That being said, I am in a WoW guild, which has raided some, at least.
Thanks, Calcium. Most of those influences that I mentioned go hand in hand what you've experienced with the whole gang mentality that you mentioned, and is one of the biggest turn offs for me on clans, too. I tried a few times to find a laid back clan like you were talking about, one that doesn't really care when or how I choose to play, just a bunch of people who appreciate the same game/type of game, but the attempts I've had in the past were all fruitless. I just kept finding the gang/managerial type clans. What do you mean you use shotguns? Shotguns are noobtoys..blah blah blah, two weeks later, what do you mean you don't use shotguns? Shotguns are l33t... I don't care what game I'm playing, I don't want a collective of arrogant dumb-asses telling me I'm not having fun correctly, especially when their strats are normally uncreative at best and horribly flawed/tragic at worst.Calcium said:
Questioning the point of clans is like asking:
Why would someone want to play football in a team (which they can manage and organize by themselves, no less), if they like playing football, and want to play it competitively.
I didn't even know they had clans on consoles. I still think that's kind of pointless, compared to the PC clan system. And it's a bit of an underground community. You might never bump into clan activity unless you don't look for it.
The image of a clan can be distorted. The noisiest ones talking and hyping about clans are often young teenagers (the desire to be in a group & unrestraint), and their clan might just be something only to get to use the same tag with a few friends. And that is a long way away from clans that have plenty of players. That hold auditions and you must be extremely good and skillful to get into them. They also play against other clans on a very high level of competition, in tournaments, even internationally. They get sponsorships from businesses and brands, usually the ones that are somehow related to online gaming. So they can basically be major teams in eSports.
And if you've got some kind of an idea about eSports, and everything that goes into that; all the team sports in there, do not consist just of individual players, but of the teams. And those teams are clans.
Why would someone want to play football in a team (which they can manage and organize by themselves, no less), if they like playing football, and want to play it competitively.
I didn't even know they had clans on consoles. I still think that's kind of pointless, compared to the PC clan system. And it's a bit of an underground community. You might never bump into clan activity unless you don't look for it.
The image of a clan can be distorted. The noisiest ones talking and hyping about clans are often young teenagers (the desire to be in a group & unrestraint), and their clan might just be something only to get to use the same tag with a few friends. And that is a long way away from clans that have plenty of players. That hold auditions and you must be extremely good and skillful to get into them. They also play against other clans on a very high level of competition, in tournaments, even internationally. They get sponsorships from businesses and brands, usually the ones that are somehow related to online gaming. So they can basically be major teams in eSports.
And if you've got some kind of an idea about eSports, and everything that goes into that; all the team sports in there, do not consist just of individual players, but of the teams. And those teams are clans.
A big part of it is that clans are a group of like minded people who usually host their own servers. If you're already a regular on a clan server because you like the community -- and clan servers usually do have a good community, because they're well moderated and everyone knows each other -- why not join? They're also useful for tournaments and the like, but nobody here was really talking about the server regular aspect.
The reason I asked these questions was because one day while playing AC:B with some friends they were talking about signing up for gamebattle. And I thought "Why? We are already playing together?" I don't think my friends will be the "YEAH MLG CLAN!!!!!1!!!". I understand the appeal of playing against other teams of your ranking but The way AC:B is set up now it doesn't seem to hard to find other teams to play against. (Not like L4D2 anyways). And fix-the-spade I was refering to all systems. I guess I just like the "Hey you like playing this game too? Cool we should play together". No schedules, No organizing, just simple playing.
My experience with clans has been...not so great.
Myself and a friend were once invited to join a clan (that shall go nameless)and very soon I found myself being met with demands like 'change your colours, your emblem, your name and motto and you have to be on at [insert time here] eastern' (never mind the fact that I'm presently in the UK in which case I have no idea what the Hell eastern time is).
It wasn't really that fun when I was playing games not because I wanted to, but because I was 'obliged to' and because I 'couldn't let the clan down', I left very soon after I joined (and urged my friend to do the same) and I have no interest in ever joining a clan again.
Playing together with friends is fun, working together as a team can be rewarding, turning gameplay into a job or chore defeats the point of it.
Myself and a friend were once invited to join a clan (that shall go nameless)and very soon I found myself being met with demands like 'change your colours, your emblem, your name and motto and you have to be on at [insert time here] eastern' (never mind the fact that I'm presently in the UK in which case I have no idea what the Hell eastern time is).
It wasn't really that fun when I was playing games not because I wanted to, but because I was 'obliged to' and because I 'couldn't let the clan down', I left very soon after I joined (and urged my friend to do the same) and I have no interest in ever joining a clan again.
Playing together with friends is fun, working together as a team can be rewarding, turning gameplay into a job or chore defeats the point of it.
On Xbox, I don't get it too much. Clans are so much easier to run for PC based games.
The appeal of clans I think lies in the fact that it is a distinct group of players playing a distinct game. You get really good players and teams this way, hence why they are great for tournaments.
I am only part of 2 clans right now, both of which are based on Halo PC, and I have been with them for many years now. We don't even play competitively anymore, but it is nice to have a group of people to go to and play Halo PC with whenever we can. That's the appeal of the clan to me now, when I first joined it was for me to experience the more professional aspect of the game, which I kinda grew into easily. Now it's just about the friends I made in the process, not being a competitive player.
The appeal of clans I think lies in the fact that it is a distinct group of players playing a distinct game. You get really good players and teams this way, hence why they are great for tournaments.
I am only part of 2 clans right now, both of which are based on Halo PC, and I have been with them for many years now. We don't even play competitively anymore, but it is nice to have a group of people to go to and play Halo PC with whenever we can. That's the appeal of the clan to me now, when I first joined it was for me to experience the more professional aspect of the game, which I kinda grew into easily. Now it's just about the friends I made in the process, not being a competitive player.
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I play in a couple of clans on the xbox. For me it's pretty much all about always having a team to play with. It's nice to get into a game and always knowing that any time you want you can get some people together in a match who have your back and can almost guarantee a win, and most importantly, will actually go for objectives instead of playing an entire game like it's Team Death Match.
I think the appeal of playing with clans is pretty much the same as the appeal of playing with friends.
I think the appeal of playing with clans is pretty much the same as the appeal of playing with friends.
This maybe just because I'm on Xbox also, but my experience with clans has been laughable, me and my friend formed a CoD4 doubles clan, a couple of minutes later we gave up on it, having realised just how stupid it was.
Clans that you meet on games are usually (note: usually) filled with little kids, or have at least one little kid, so it's usually fun to poke fun at the whining little child and see the rest of the clan react
I can see the appeal though, gaming with a group of like minded individuals, but I just don't have the dedication, nor do I stick to any one game for longer than a week.
Clans that you meet on games are usually (note: usually) filled with little kids, or have at least one little kid, so it's usually fun to poke fun at the whining little child and see the rest of the clan react
I can see the appeal though, gaming with a group of like minded individuals, but I just don't have the dedication, nor do I stick to any one game for longer than a week.
