So is a description of a historical battle from Wikipedia inherently a story? It has conflict.II2 said:
Cliche's in fiction that annoy you most
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worst cliche I can think of is the nerdy anime loner who suddenly has 10 chicks surrounding him who he refuses to have sex with.
it's the only time when a pornographic fanfic is more believable than the actual story.
it's the only time when a pornographic fanfic is more believable than the actual story.
How is that a pun? No seriously, I don't get it. Because are views are in conflict? I don't see the play on words here. I guess you could say, it isn't very punny.II2 said:
Anyway, I am genuinely curious. I for one like spiting hairs on things. It helps me better define the essence of what things actually mean to people. It's hard to have a debate if you don't even agree on what the words your using mean. Besides, the whole core of my argument is based on the idea that conflict is only an accessory to stories, not a defining characteristic.
I hate what I call boybandism. When there is a group of people they each get assigned one trait each. Theres always the bad boy, the pretty boy, the smart one, the funny one.
It makes all of them shallow.
In a real group of friends people tend to share some traits.
It makes all of them shallow.
In a real group of friends people tend to share some traits.
But my friends tell me I look manly when I wear contacts instead of specs...EeveeElectro said:
On a serious note, the cliche where if there's two leads of the opposite gender, even if thay hate each other or just met 3 hours ago, THE PANTIES MUST DROP!
Seriously, if random hookups happened as often as Hollywood represents, we'd have twice the population(I doubt they tore each other's clothes off where they did and they JUST HAPPENED to have a condom or she remembered her pill) and AIDS would be more common than housecats.
Cop films are the worst for clichés
The black (or other minority) sidekicks who are too badass for their own good, so they get shot 3/4 of the way through.
and are either:
A) Hospitalised and quit the force
B) Killed and their last words are "Kill that som'*****"
and
When some badass mother fookery goes wrong and the chief pulls the main character of the case because this town needs cops not corpses and the mayor has his ass in a strap. ect
So the main character goes on a binge to drown his sorrow. then in a drunken rage, comes up with the answer, bursts into the chief's office and asks for one more shot at catching this perp.
The black (or other minority) sidekicks who are too badass for their own good, so they get shot 3/4 of the way through.
and are either:
A) Hospitalised and quit the force
B) Killed and their last words are "Kill that som'*****"
and
When some badass mother fookery goes wrong and the chief pulls the main character of the case because this town needs cops not corpses and the mayor has his ass in a strap. ect
So the main character goes on a binge to drown his sorrow. then in a drunken rage, comes up with the answer, bursts into the chief's office and asks for one more shot at catching this perp.
When in the battle the two leaders meet at the middle and somehow the battle magically ends when one of them dies
Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes. I am sick and tired of zombies. Which leads me to my gripe!zelda2fanboy said:
One thing I've always hated is when someone's bitten by a zombie, or scratched or infected with whateverthefuck that basically turns them into a living time bomb, they refuse to alert whoever they happen to be traveling with of their situation and go as far to hide the fact. Especially when they know being bitten turns them.
Whenever the antagonists get mad at each other and split up at the end of the second act, and inevitably get back together midway through the third. It's extremely predictable, and you always know they're going to get back together anyways. So what's the point of having them split up in the first place? It's just a tired, boring cliche.
These are probably my biggest ones:
Horribly inaccurate death scenes. Especially when they have someone getting strangled to death in three seconds or just way faster than possible.
The hero can destroy anything or kill anyone he wants and never gets called out for being overly detructive/a murderer.
Mental disorders being shown inaccurately. One of the worst offenders I've seen is "A beautiful mind". They didn't even try to mimic the guys actual symptoms.
Women need to be protected/saved even when they start off as a badass. It's just annoying.
Characters that are supposed to be important but the audiance knows they are just eye candy.
Animals thinking like human beings. They don't. Stop acting like they do.
Horribly inaccurate death scenes. Especially when they have someone getting strangled to death in three seconds or just way faster than possible.
The hero can destroy anything or kill anyone he wants and never gets called out for being overly detructive/a murderer.
Mental disorders being shown inaccurately. One of the worst offenders I've seen is "A beautiful mind". They didn't even try to mimic the guys actual symptoms.
Women need to be protected/saved even when they start off as a badass. It's just annoying.
Characters that are supposed to be important but the audiance knows they are just eye candy.
Animals thinking like human beings. They don't. Stop acting like they do.
Also when the big huge battle just turns into both leaders yelling
"CHARGE!!" While on rearing horses
"CHARGE!!" While on rearing horses
NOT EVERY ANIMAL IS A DOG.
HORSES ARE NOT DOGS.
GORILLAS ARE NOT DOGS.
ALIENS ARE NOT DOGS.
That is all.
HORSES ARE NOT DOGS.
GORILLAS ARE NOT DOGS.
ALIENS ARE NOT DOGS.
That is all.
I was actually offended by a number of those videos in that article, and I'm not one who is easily offended.Vault101 said:
God, somebody give Hollywood a serious reality check.
This one too. The whole "human = best" is old. If you must have a "chosen one," then why does it always have to be a human? It's human arrogance if you ask me.Wierdguy said:
One of the things I liked about Oblivion. You could make the "chosen one" of that game any race you wanted.
It's also one thing I like about Warcraft. Orcs, Humans, Tauren, Night Elves, Blood Elves, Draenai, Trolls, Undead, Goblins, Worgen, Dwarves, Gnomes... doesn't matter. They all have an equal chance of being good, evil, or neutral.
