Cliches that you don't hate, but do bug you

[Terminate421]

The government fires a nuke at the problem.

I'm usually all for that solution but when the situation makes sense.

Also I do hate the "chosen one" cliche, especially when the word Destiny is used. (Very few exceptions apply, such as with Skyrim or Pokemon 2000)

The idea that the dark ending is always the one that has the most artistic value. Since when has the ending to say...Gears of War 3 not been art?

 

[Fenra]

Love stories in war films, specifically Air combat films.

I don't hate them, especially when they are well handled and particularly touching (like in Dark Blue World), but there's always a little part of me thinking about how the romance scenes are eating away at potential aerial dogfighting chaos scenes.

Seriously- when you compare strictly the amount of 'romance' and 'aerial dogfights' in film these days, there so little air combat going around that you can't really blame people for flocking to the latest WW2 epic for the action and then being disheartened by the abundance of hanky panky that they could find almost anywhere else...

Did you perhaps see Red Tails recently? thats what you made me think of, although that love story did have some wieght by the end, but most of the time I was wondering what on earth it was for and why it was taking time out from the main plot.

Anyway for me, its the "misunderstanding" moment that happens in a ton of films. Not so much that its back just that often its handled poorly.

Lets take a romance in a film, there seems to be always that "misunderstanding" moment where one or both parties overhears something or sees something or what have you that they take the wrong way. Now it can work but when I see it and I see the overblown reactions these people have I sit there and think "oh come on!"

I mean really, so your running away/leaving him/her over something you assume happened/didnt happen, thats crazy! in the real world, rational people would talk it out almost instantly, the misunderstanding would be cleared up and none of that drama would happen! It would all be resolved in moments not days, I guess the saving grace is that they do clear up the misunderstanding eventually, even if its in the longest, most convuloted way possible

 

[Dangit2019]

It's always the guy who jokes a lot that dies first... I don't like that. I'm the funny guy!

I always thought it was implied that the guy was focused so much on making a witty quip on the situation that he forgot to get out of the way in time. You would like Joss Whedon's works because he always makes sure that someone makes at least 5 jokes before they have to bite it.

OT: Whenever a show keeps making the same jokes about a character's interests to a point where they become the sole details of the character. I think TVTropes had an article about that.

...

That's all the researchers' cue to find it (for fun).

 

[Harkonnen64]

The "hero" in horror movies is always some boring ass goody two shoes character.Just once I'd like to see a horror where the stoner/bullying jock/slutty girl survives and all the goody-goody virgins are the ones killed off

Oh man, you really need to see Cabin in the Woods. Really does a great twist on the 5-teenagers setup. And it's just a good movie in general. I'd say more, but the whole movie really revolves around the twist, so just know that you have to see it.

 

[Squilookle]

Love stories in war films, specifically Air combat films.

I don't hate them, especially when they are well handled and particularly touching (like in Dark Blue World), but there's always a little part of me thinking about how the romance scenes are eating away at potential aerial dogfighting chaos scenes.

Seriously- when you compare strictly the amount of 'romance' and 'aerial dogfights' in film these days, there so little air combat going around that you can't really blame people for flocking to the latest WW2 epic for the action and then being disheartened by the abundance of hanky panky that they could find almost anywhere else...

Did you perhaps see Red Tails recently? thats what you made me think of, although that love story did have some wieght by the end, but most of the time I was wondering what on earth it was for and why it was taking time out from the main plot.

Anyway for me, its the "misunderstanding" moment that happens in a ton of films. Not so much that its back just that often its handled poorly.

Lets take a romance in a film, there seems to be always that "misunderstanding" moment where one or both parties overhears something or sees something or what have you that they take the wrong way. Now it can work but when I see it and I see the overblown reactions these people have I sit there and think "oh come on!"

I mean really, so your running away/leaving him/her over something you assume happened/didnt happen, thats crazy! in the real world, rational people would talk it out almost instantly, the misunderstanding would be cleared up and none of that drama would happen! It would all be resolved in moments not days, I guess the saving grace is that they do clear up the misunderstanding eventually, even if its in the longest, most convuloted way possible

I haven't yet, but I have heard about how utterly pointless the Red Tails romance in particular is.

Oh! Almost forgot this one- the same old computer BS that TV shows keep rolling out time and time again...

 

[WanderingFool]

The "If you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Seriously, if the guy killed hundreds of people, why not make sure he can't kill any more?

The idea is that you have to take the moral Highroad... Fuck the moral highroad.

 

[Broady Brio]

When friendships fall out just before the climax. Then they get back together. I wonder how quickly they'll make up again.

 

[Socdemparty]

The "If you kill him, you will be just like him" trope. Seriously, if the guy killed hundreds of people, why not make sure he can't kill any more?

The idea is that you have to take the moral Highroad... Fuck the moral highroad.

This for me too. Never liked the logic of abstaining from sweet justice cause we can't be 'like them'.

My own example: Camp gays. Typically any stereotype that's over-exaggerated, but this one annoys me the most. I really can't get why when you have a homosexual character, they have to be homosexual in the most ridiculous fashion. I'm not meaning in the same way people try to justify hate by saying "They were rubbing it in our faces!" but it just reeks of cliche and bad writing. But as in the nature of this thread, it never put me off. Just scoffed at it for a bit and I moved on.

 

[GodofDisaster]

I do believe Lucky Star poked fun at this one.

This is found in a lot of anime.

The hero and his friends find themselves facing an evil orgainzation, the hero fights one of its members and gets his ass kicked.

Said hero then trains to improve his skills for the upcoming battle,he then has a rematch with the guy who kicked his ass and of course the hero wins.

However it turns out that this guy was actually the weakest member of the evil orgainzation and that the remaining members are far stronger. Hero doesn't train for them, but still wins anyway, thanks to the trusty power of friendship etc.

 

[sethisjimmy]

OT: Whenever a show keeps making the same jokes about a character's interests to a point where they become the sole details of the character. I think TVTropes had an article about that.

...

That's all the researchers' cue to find it (for fun).

That would be Flanderization [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization/].

 

[Shock and Awe]

Storylines created by stupid decisions. I can usually ignore but its always in the back of my head thinking "This all could have been avoided if you just shot him instead of talking".

 

[Dangit2019]

OT: Whenever a show keeps making the same jokes about a character's interests to a point where they become the sole details of the character. I think TVTropes had an article about that.

...

That's all the researchers' cue to find it (for fun).

That would be Flanderization [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization/].

Good job sir. I think Flanderization was the entire base of jokes in Two and a Half Men.

 

[floppylobster]

and this.

Oh how I hate this. But directors seem to love it.

Almost as much as they love 'a movie within a movie', (Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay are big offenders). So this is my contribution to the thread - where a character in a film is filming what is happening but doing it in an entirely unrealistic way i.e. Pearl Harbor, War of the Worlds, Cloverfield, Diary of the Dead etc...

 

[Ironbat92]

Probably the dumbass villain. The could just kill the hero right where he stands, but draws things out by making a speech, wanting to fight fisticuffs, and so on.

 

[Dethenger]

This mostly happens in anime. It is really fucking irritating when a male protagonist has a roster of kind, beautiful, and interesting suitors that all compete for his attention, but goes for the female protagonist despite her being bitchy, abusive and annoying. Examples:

Ranma 1/2: Ranma falls for Akane, despite being literally surrounded by potential suitors that are better than her in every conceivable way.

Zero no Tsukaima: Saito falls for Louise, despite being literally surrounded by potential suitors that are better than her in every conceivable way.

I know there are more, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

 

[idodo35]

well i dont know if i dont hate it but the mandatory love interest always get on my nerves... you know how it is there is the hero/heroin and then there is the friend/partner/whatever character from the opisite sex and they ALWAYS get together in the end!
worst case of this in recent memory was in "avatar the legend of kora" (which was a very flawed siries imo) when there was this one character who in the begining kora kind of falls for but then she dates his brother and then they kiss and then he meets a girl and you think oh thats it they left this stupid forced romance! but no a few episodes later (near the end)the guy leaves the girl and ends up with the heroin in a forced annoying ending that puts the last nail in the siries' cofin...

also the happy ending that is sometimes pushed into stories (no his father isnt really dead! and bullshit like that) if you want drama stick to it dont undo it for a happy ending!!!

thats mine

 

[CleverCover]

When the villain has an opportunity to kill the hero, but doesn't take it or instead has a speech to get in some last minute gloating.

Or when the hero/heroine is Too Dumb to Live. Fucking Twilight.

 

[Justyn Stahll]

The completely random McGuffin
"You need the mystical gem of Something Something Dark Side, to defeat the evil guy"
"Why can't I just stab him...and then burn him?"
"Get the Gem"
"But-"
"Get...The...Gem"

and having to send ONE guy, off to do something that the army could do a lot better

Capatcha: Meat and Drink , now I'm hungry...

 

[Misterian]

Does Nephewism count?

I'm only talking about the type where you just give a character a nephew or neice and not even bother to bring up the parents of said nephew or neice?

I know Disney has done this alot, but Perhaps the most jaring examples are from MLP:FiM, where Princess Celestia apparently has a niece and a nephew. The nephew being Prince Blueblood, who's Celestia's "great great great great great great great great great great great (and probably even more greats) nephew on Celestia's and Luna's mother's side, about 52 times removed, roughly speaking,"

I'm not even joking, that's how Faust herself explained Blueblood's connection to Celestia's family.

Then there's Celestia's niece, Princess Candance, we don't know if she also happens to be another distant, technical, relation or is actually Luna's daughter (though since Luna's been stuck on the moon for 1000 years that would be highly unlikely), or if she's adopted.

For that matter, wouldn't it be less confusing if Candance and Blueblood were actually adopted as foster children by Celestia? it sounds like the sort of thing you'd see her do and the developers might be able to get away with saying that the nephew and niece titles are just covers they use for personal reasons.