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In before the "suicide is selfish" and "lol emos" lynch mob.
My partner committed suicide. She did it for incredibly sensible reasons (which had nothing to do with depression, being "emo" etc), and went about it in the most unselfish, low-impact way she possibly could given the circumstances. While I wish she was here today, and I did my best to try and make her not do it at the time, I can see why she did it and I might have even done the same thing in her position.
At the end of the day people control their own lives and no-one can/should make you live a life you don't want to live. However I would never recommend suicide to anybody. Often there is another, better solution.
My partner committed suicide. She did it for incredibly sensible reasons (which had nothing to do with depression, being "emo" etc), and went about it in the most unselfish, low-impact way she possibly could given the circumstances. While I wish she was here today, and I did my best to try and make her not do it at the time, I can see why she did it and I might have even done the same thing in her position.
At the end of the day people control their own lives and no-one can/should make you live a life you don't want to live. However I would never recommend suicide to anybody. Often there is another, better solution.
I've attempted suicide on three different occasions. After the third (and so far last attempt) I was seriously ill and I could see what how I was breaking my mother's heart so I've been fighting my depression to prevent a relapse, if only for her sake.
Suicide is a very tricky issue to talk about, because one's opinion about it may be severely different from another. Personally I would not consider suicide for it is better to die when its your time.
I will admit that I have attempted it for various reasons (I did something that made me unable to live with myself in the deepest pits of my soul). I know a lot of people who have tried to commit suicide and one person who succeeded. Has the suicide rate been increasing recently or do we just think of it more when it happens around us?
Scuicide is a way of release, When you reach that stage it may be that you are thinking Selfishly, But selflessly.
People who arent suicidal see it as a way of someone escaping their problems, Running, etc, And putting the family/Relatives under stress.
People who are/have been suicidle know this, But they think in the long term people will be a lot better off without them.
Personally, Ive come close (being told your're going to die lonely over & over when your 16, whilst dropping down to 7 stone in wieght & coming home to a verbally abusive freeloading stepdad, All whilst recieving nothing but mockings from any females you may be interested in at the time...Yeah...Thats not a good place ot be in.
People who arent suicidal see it as a way of someone escaping their problems, Running, etc, And putting the family/Relatives under stress.
People who are/have been suicidle know this, But they think in the long term people will be a lot better off without them.
Personally, Ive come close (being told your're going to die lonely over & over when your 16, whilst dropping down to 7 stone in wieght & coming home to a verbally abusive freeloading stepdad, All whilst recieving nothing but mockings from any females you may be interested in at the time...Yeah...Thats not a good place ot be in.
"Suicide? To tell you the truth, I disapprove of suicide more than anything!" - Vash the Stampede.
Yes, it's utterly hypocritical of me to disapprove. I attempted suicide three times when I was younger (due to a lot of factors that I don't like talking about, most of which are now resolved), but now... I think it's just a crappy thing to do. I understand it, and Bonsaik, I'm sorry about your partner.
But I'm not okay with the idea at all.
Yes, it's utterly hypocritical of me to disapprove. I attempted suicide three times when I was younger (due to a lot of factors that I don't like talking about, most of which are now resolved), but now... I think it's just a crappy thing to do. I understand it, and Bonsaik, I'm sorry about your partner.
But I'm not okay with the idea at all.
<color=purple> I don't think i would ever do it, but I think that if you want to die, it is your choice.
Suicide... Some say it's selfish, some say it's cowardly.
AS one of probably many, I can attest that it is neither.
When you're in a state where Suicide becomes an option you are already feeling like a blight on the earth, you are desperate, sad beyond all belief and depressed. When in a situation like that rational thinking does not occur. Your utterly negative mood makes your mind shut off possible alternatives, and spirals downwards. Hopefully you wake up one day and make sense of it then walk away. Some people are not as fortunate and take their lives, not because they were selfish or cowardly but it being The ONLY option in their eyes.
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Also wanna point out that in that state you feel like you're helping the world by removing yourself from the world. It doesn't seem like such a bad idea, in fact in the grand scheme of things preferable.
AS one of probably many, I can attest that it is neither.
When you're in a state where Suicide becomes an option you are already feeling like a blight on the earth, you are desperate, sad beyond all belief and depressed. When in a situation like that rational thinking does not occur. Your utterly negative mood makes your mind shut off possible alternatives, and spirals downwards. Hopefully you wake up one day and make sense of it then walk away. Some people are not as fortunate and take their lives, not because they were selfish or cowardly but it being The ONLY option in their eyes.
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Also wanna point out that in that state you feel like you're helping the world by removing yourself from the world. It doesn't seem like such a bad idea, in fact in the grand scheme of things preferable.
Man. I'm sorry to hear that. I agree with your opinion, that generally there's usually a better alternative but everyone has their own reasons, and nobody else can truly understand what those are, or how meaningful they are.BonsaiK said:
I know someone that did too, uncurable brain cancer. Although it was a shitty situation, I can't really blame him.BonsaiK said:
I also had another frined that tried and failed. All he managed to do was sleep for two days straight and soil himself from every orifice he had. Don't know what ever happend to him eventually.
I've contemplated it myself, but it's good that I have even just one really good friend and a brother to make living more worth it, despite all the crap we all gone through throughout the years. I'd rather die than see everyone around me being upset over my death... wait, does that make sense?? 
Still, sacrificing my life is a lot more worth it if it'll benefit others in some way, especially if I have nothing else to live for and in my death, I somehow cured cancer or blow up the enemy mothership or whatever. I can't see myself taking my own life any other way, other than perhaps despair after being physically and mentally tortured, immense pain from ill health, or being dismembered in a way that I can't go outside due to how shitty I look.
Still, sacrificing my life is a lot more worth it if it'll benefit others in some way, especially if I have nothing else to live for and in my death, I somehow cured cancer or blow up the enemy mothership or whatever. I can't see myself taking my own life any other way, other than perhaps despair after being physically and mentally tortured, immense pain from ill health, or being dismembered in a way that I can't go outside due to how shitty I look.
If someone wants to kill themselves, let them. That's my ideology, I don't have a strong enough attachment to anyone to be sad if they killed themselves. Though of course there are two types of suicide to me:
1) Type A. Not always about money but if you just can't go on living the way you are now and its nobody's fault but your own, instead of dying a disease or ending up on the streets you kill yourself.
2) Type B. If you are being bullied or otherwise feeling inadequate in the grand scheme of things. I am a very black and white person so to me there are two ways to solve the problem.
a. deal with whoever is causing the problem (bullies, parents, etc)
b. off yourself because option a is too hard.
Anyone who thinks none of the Type B suicides are because they were a coward should look at the facts.
I would be sad at someone killing themselves for Type A, because that's a situation nobody wants to be in.
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And now for a funny story about be being a bastard. My friend was being sadder than usual one day and she was crying her eyes out to me. Telling me about how her life is so hard and how her grades need to be this high to get into that college, she said she might kill herself that night. I said "you sure you want to put all that studying to waste? You didn't even do the final exam yet." She said she doesn't care, and she is going to kill herself tonight. I asked her if we could have sex before she does it, of course she declines thinking I'm an idiot. And I say "well that's selfish. You're killing yourself because you know you'll fail the test." She said that she is too stressed about everything, not just the test. I told her that nothing is going to happen when she dies except that she'll get her own page in a year book. And everyone will know its because you were too stupid to live.
This enraged her and she said "I am NOT a moron and I'm NOT KILLING MYSELF BECAUSE I AM A COWARD!" She then realized what I was doing, and saw that she isn't as hopeless as she thought. she hugged me for saving her life.
To be honest I was half expecting her to off herself and was scared that I was gonna egg her further.
1) Type A. Not always about money but if you just can't go on living the way you are now and its nobody's fault but your own, instead of dying a disease or ending up on the streets you kill yourself.
2) Type B. If you are being bullied or otherwise feeling inadequate in the grand scheme of things. I am a very black and white person so to me there are two ways to solve the problem.
a. deal with whoever is causing the problem (bullies, parents, etc)
b. off yourself because option a is too hard.
Anyone who thinks none of the Type B suicides are because they were a coward should look at the facts.
I would be sad at someone killing themselves for Type A, because that's a situation nobody wants to be in.
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And now for a funny story about be being a bastard. My friend was being sadder than usual one day and she was crying her eyes out to me. Telling me about how her life is so hard and how her grades need to be this high to get into that college, she said she might kill herself that night. I said "you sure you want to put all that studying to waste? You didn't even do the final exam yet." She said she doesn't care, and she is going to kill herself tonight. I asked her if we could have sex before she does it, of course she declines thinking I'm an idiot. And I say "well that's selfish. You're killing yourself because you know you'll fail the test." She said that she is too stressed about everything, not just the test. I told her that nothing is going to happen when she dies except that she'll get her own page in a year book. And everyone will know its because you were too stupid to live.
This enraged her and she said "I am NOT a moron and I'm NOT KILLING MYSELF BECAUSE I AM A COWARD!" She then realized what I was doing, and saw that she isn't as hopeless as she thought. she hugged me for saving her life.
To be honest I was half expecting her to off herself and was scared that I was gonna egg her further.
No way! Thats fucking wack. There is no way I could ever see that as an option.
Thats exactly what it is. It's escape for people who truly think that there is no other way out... which just is not true. I've stopped 3 people from doing this, and those people are thankful everyday for what I did. After isolating what was causing the problems, (one had a legitimate disorder) and removing those problems for there lives completely turned them around. If I hadn't done what I did, those people wouldn't be here today - and thats how it should be. The world would not have been better without them, which is something some people say when they attempt such a thing.Insanum said:
In the past I have come pretty close to doing it, but always stopped myself. I sadly still think about doing it quite often.
I guess it depends on the context of the person's situation if it would be okay to do it or not.
I guess it depends on the context of the person's situation if it would be okay to do it or not.